It seems that Lewis De Payne is also Alex Lowe, in the theater movie (by Millenium Films) "Takedown" -- and was awarded hundreds of thousands of dollars in an out of court settlement for his portrayal without permission.

http://packetstorm.mirror.widexs.nl/mag/DoJ/DoJ-1/DoJ1-5.txt

http://www.securityfocus.com/news/10

http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,35327,00.html

I found a DVD of the movie on Amazon.com in France. In fact, I have seen the DVD, and it's not bad for a hacker movie.


confucy

there is times when I like the way ynot works, as you have to have an account to post. any boy or girl or sissy can post anon, but a man or women, will use there name.
******************************

Bullshit,
you only wish it when you can't take heat,
I don';t give a fuck about anons
;-))
Serge Brad, do YOU need Forest? ;-)))

If PK was so concerned about children and I assume she is concerned about other people's as well.

Wouldnt she have an index page warning that a site named persiankitty.com which is associated with a cat in such a way that children may type that name in?

BUT NO... the mother of the year has a wide open domain WITH HARDCORE on the index page?

Nice work mother of the year. I hope Ashcroft has you at the top of the list!
Who Dat

You forgot DAMN SEXY, Mike!
________

Anthony, do I have to remind you Drayvk posts on Oprano from time to time...


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The people here at Oprano are opinionated, educated, intelligent, witty, and can spot bullshit from a mile away. There is no pack mentality. The same people who one day slam you, on another day say I am full of shit.

==========================

You forgot DAMN SEXY, Mike!

=o)

Anthony (Lord Darth Mailer)

uh oh....who let the anon's out? i think there's a secret signal that goes out when it's time for the anon's to feast.
mutt

re: never met PK...

here are the 2 people I know who met PK in person:

1) Davic@xmission.com

2) Bama

any more mystery questions?
Serge Brad, do YOU need Forest? ;-)))

Omar, as someone who has pretended to be a woman online, I know it is difficult to keep up with tons of different people and issues.

When I spoke to Beth on the phone, she always remembered the things we discussed in the past. Be it a billing issue, link issue, something about my family, e-mail, or whatever. So Beth is either the real thing, or is the best fraud I have ever dealt with.

However that does not mean that Beth is Pk.com 100% But I would seriously doubt if Beth was some woman hired to keep webmasters happy.

Beth's reasoning to keep her profile low due to family concerns make sense. Of course it also lends itself to a lot of speculation. Espcially when you tie it with some myserious guy who has a criminal record.

No back peddling... Nothing will change with my business tommorow due to this. I am just curious as to who is who, and what is what...

Curiosity killed the cat... and it may also kill me if I don't go to sleep soon! :-)

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PLR radio will be hosting an auction to raise money to help with PK's hurt feelings.

Please send items to Louise Paine.

Isn't it ironic that it is Beth MANsfield

CuntFucky

Whoooo! My ip is being taking over by anonymous!
LOL~

Omar

Mike...why are you backpeddling?
lol

Omar

So sorry you had to read this?

WTF.. grow the fuck up!

meow meow my ass!
CuntFucky

PK according to the IP records, you do not exist. Nobody has ever met you.

Here is an open invitation to meet at the next gathering. Mike and Serge are tooo much cowards to tell you that we think you are a sockpuppet.
Omar

'Beth' is here..whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
*sniffle*
Omar

I am suspicious of anyone who changes their name. Going from Lewis DePayne, to Lew Payne is kind of shady.

Of course if he made some mistakes, and is trying to seperate himself from them it is logical to try and create a new identity.


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Im in tears too

This is funny shit!


CuntFucky

Hi Pk. Actually, this was about Lewis DePayne. Do you know who he REALLY is? hahahaha
Omar

I duunoo if Mike AI and serge wanna involve themselves......
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oh yeah!!!!

I do!!!

Big Time DO!
;-))
Serge Brad, do YOU need Forest? ;-)))

Pk,


so sorry you had to read that shit.

with love from your neighbor down south.

todd

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PK - no need for tears, you know the bunk that goes on the boards. It is suprising you have not been targeted more.

I have always thought you were the woman behind PK. Still do, we talked about to much for you to be someone playing a game.

Can you fill us in though what Lew DePayne does for MeowMedia? I am just assuming he hosts your site. It appears he hosts a lot of sites, by the looks of his IP range...


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PK,
I just walk up, I heard you "calling"
;-))

who the fuck is giving you hard time????
Serge Brad, do YOU need Forest? ;-)))

mutt, you pass along my phone ## and I will give Lewis DePayne your home address ALA Kevin Mitnick. lol!

Cheers br0, I think you could get a good story outta this. It is not bullshit or anything. There is a LOT of dirt involved here, I duunoo if Mike AI and serge wanna involve themselves......
Omar

I'm sitting here in tears after reading this board tonight.

How in the hell after the work I've put into my site since October of 1995, could people say that I don't run my site myself? That I'm some sockpuppet, female voice, etc. I've put my life's blood into my site and I'm fluffed off as being a flunky.

Anyone who's ever asked about how I came to know Lewis has heard it. Check on who owns the trademark and the domain, Meow Media, Inc. Check Washington State corporation records to find the sole owner is me, Beth Mansfield. Ask anyone who's sent me a check for advertising in the last 6+ years and they'll tell you it's sent to Washington State and is deposited by me in Washington State.

I'm sure all the doubters will have some wonderful explanations for Lewis magically performs that too.
PK

CountFucky

You are right...that is a puddle of water I did not want to step in....

Lewis DePayne is a man of many faces. His newest alias is Lew Payne, and he is very closely linked with Persian Kitty.

Yours,
Omar
Omar

i did not talk down to you Omar. I pointed out the irony of it all. Don't be so sensitive or I will give Confucy your home phone # :)
mutt

more funny shit from that page about gun control.

Dianne Feinstein: "I'm an important Senator like my colleague, the fat drunk from Massachusetts. I should therefore be able to get a concealed-carry license if I think I'm being threatened. Like Mr. Kennedy, I have enough pull and influence to do so. As for the peasantry, if I had my way, you'd all have to surrender your handguns." YES

mutt

mutt, whether you like it or not, Lewis DePayne is a convict. A wire fraud artist, convicted of the crime he completed.

You talked down to me earlier, but mutt, you will dig into this and realize I am RIGHT.

It does not mean Lewis DePayne had not mended his ways, but....that dude has a SERIOUS past.....I mean SERIOUS!!!!!!!!

Omar
Omar

Pretty funny.. go to google and search groups for Lewis DePayne and pedophile and there are references that Lewis was actually a guy named Ross Jefferies, who does seduction.com

In my opinion, lots of bizarre things in there..

I guess he has taken many different aliases.
CuntFucky

http://kepler.ss.ca.gov/corpdata/ShowAllList?QueryCorpNumber=C2002523

I don't know what it means. Says his corporation LPPI is 'SUSPENDED'.


mutt

Timon, have you ever met Beth Mansfield?

Or do you assume the 'chat' you read was actually written by a woman?

Cheers,
Omar
Omar

I have read a much more plausible explanation about how
PK got started and her relation to LDP on this board about
a week ago posted by PK herself...

All this hypothetical gossip is a waste of time, and who
really gives a flying fuck anyway.

Why not focus all that attention to your own business instead
and maybe the money you guys will earn will take away some of
the bitterness and the jelousy...

Timon

mutt, have you ever met Beth Mansfield? Has anyone you know met 'her'?

Yours,
Omar (I hate my fukkin name)
Omar

mutt, when I have the time I will post the complaints regarding lppi.com spamming...he was a biggie in the day!

As for that past pedo post regarding Lew Payne, I think that is false. Lew Payne, aka Lewis DePayne is not a rapist. He is a hacker, wire fraud convict etc.
Omar

OK now I have a reason not to like him:

http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/dirty.html#DePayne
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that Beth Mansfield post was only a few months ago. I didn't know the people who now run sex.com were spammers. Nice.
mutt

YIKES!!

Post # 56960

I don't think Lewis is a rapist....but court documents don't lie.....

Yours,
Omar
Omar

To: Wm James <wrjames@kudzucountry.com>
Subject: Re: Lew Payne still spamming
From: "Persian Kitty" <webmistress@persiankitty.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 07:45:31 -0800

I wanted to let you know that although Lewis is tech on my domain, he
does not run my website,
nor have I ever asked him to 'spam' for persiankitty.com. Any
affiliation with my email address is
purely due to the popularity of my site.

I don't spam, I have never spammed and I've never had anyone spam for
me. I do know that
from watching newsgroups years ago that many people use my trademark
name "Persian Kitty"
in sex-related postings in order to get people's attention on
searches, much as my website name
has been abused on search engines. In fact, most search engines come
up with a plethora of
junk websites other than mine when someone searches for my websites.

If you will look at the sites begin spammed, ie sex.com, you will
likely find that my website is not
mentioned on any of them.

I don't know the past history, but secondary to all of this I do know
that there are several people
who work for sex.com and have a much more vested interest in spamming
the website, then
Lewis ever would.

Sorry if this falls to the wrong person. I just don't like being
guilty by association.

Thanks,

Beth Mansfield,
owner, operator of www.persiankitty.com
mutt

Mitnick Codefendant Sentenced
Accused hacker faces probation, community service, and fine.
Kevin Mitnick's codefendant, Lewis DePayne, was sentenced today
in federal court in Los Angeles. Unlike the imprisoned hacker,
DePayne was not restricted in his use of computers. US District
Judge Mariana Pfaelzer sentenced DePayne to five years of
probation, which includes six months of home detention. He will
also be required to serve 225 hours of community service
(to be determined by the probation office) and to pay a $2,500
fine and the cost of any home detention.
http://www.zdnet.com/zdtv/cybercrime/news/story/0,3700,2404937,00.html

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Todd, I will still continue to upsell your toys on our sites. We have some biiiiig assed paysites coming online soon and I will still continue to use your company to upsell with.

Open your mind, br0. Read what I posted. We have all talked to Lewis DePayne, I have been for years, but read the facts that I presented.

nuff said.
Omar
Omar

Todd, I wish I could have a GF and a Fiance... ;-)

Night... will be in touch with you about Biz!


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http://groups.google.com/groups?q=lewis+depayne&start=10&hl=en&selm=3aqd27%24inf%40Venus.mcs.com&rnum=16

Key lines:

> That would be Lewis DePayne. A known pedophile.


>You have NONE, zero, zip, about alleged claims about Trish Roberts being stalked or harassed or hit on by Lewis DePayne.





Nomar

Sweet dreams mike, enjoy the time with your girl / fiance, life is too damm short bro:)

Cheers

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Todd, how can you call it 'defacing' when I can post the facts? I am not defacing anyone....I am posting public information!! Look up defacing in the dictionary....

"de·face Pronunciation Key (d-fs)
tr.v. de·faced, de·fac·ing, de·fac·es
To mar or spoil the appearance or surface of; disfigure."

I am not doing that, Todd!! Lewis DePayne did it to himself! I am just telling the facts!!

Yours.
Omar
Omar

Todd, WTF Omar just posted a few URLs, and made a few comments based on them.

It is hardly ripping someone apart, or defacing someone.


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Todd, sextoyking...I am not defacing Lewis DePayne. Anything I posted is public information and you can find the same info by going to Google and doing a search on Lew Payne (his fake name) and doing a search on Lewis DePayne and finding out the REAL dirt, babbbey!

Cheers
Omar
Omar

Mike,

this wonderful board has enough gumbo with out throwing the anon sharks in:)

hey, you know me, I love facts and all, but why fucking deface someone, you know bro???? one thing I always said on netpond, there is times when I like the way ynot works, as you have to have an account to post. any boy or girl or sissy can post anon, but a man or women, will use there name.

enough said, not my fight i guess:)

back to my pyrex dildos:))
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J$tyle$ you are right, and I know I am going to get in trouble with my girl too...

But I have to say Oprano is "must see TV"

I cannot stop hitting re-load, inbetween running traceroutes and such...

It is late, and I feel like I am in a good espisode of x files!



Mike AI You have a friend you can get cheap domains from!

Ulfie, I make a ton of money off of PK as well.

Omar
Omar

Omar,

Learn to show some respect for ppl, it will get you alot better results in life. I am not Lew's Defender, as I said I don't need to deface ppl in public, and if I did, everyone would know for a fact it was me, and my email, I don't need to hide behind some anon shit.
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Confucy, thanks for that kick butt whois lookup.

Now, I heard you were gonna defend Lewis DePayne like Todd and mutt are doing. Where is your ammo?

Is Paypal gonna fight a lawsuit from convicted felon Lew Payne aka Lewis DePayne? WHERE IS LUKE FORD DAMMIT???

ahahahahah

or in mutts words bwahahahwbhwaihahahah

Omar
Omar

All of these companies are actually
owned or operated by Lewis De Payne
under different corporate shells to
hide the fact.
confucy
--------------------------------

Now THAT'S funny!!!

:o)


MikeAI,

you ain't going anywhere tonight

;o)


J$tyle$ Got Cloud9content on YOUR site yet?

Besides Mutt's bwahahaha loloolollololl hahahahhahahahah

Where is MY credit in this?

hhahahahahahahahah

Sheesh.
Omar

Omar, from one anon to another...
who the fuck are you?
***********
Now that's comedy.

As far as PK goes I've made a ton of money off of that site. If it's run by a convict I could care less. As long as they aren't breaking the law now that's all I care about.


Ulfie

Todd, Omar has come here and is just adding some spice to Oprano. He posted a few articles that no one else has added, including Confucy.

The more information, the more facts, the more opinions here helps all of us make better informed decisions!


Mike AI You have a friend you can get cheap domains from!

Todd, I am not posting about Lewis to help you in any means. I am posting about Lew Payne because his real name (at least in a court of law) is Lewis DePayne. And he is a convicted criminal due to wire fraud.

If you feel proud to defend him, so be it. But the bottom line is Lew Payne is a criminal and has been convicted of serious charges. Do business with him, he will make you a TON of money. But.....don't fuck him around. He could fuck you up bad. hehehehe
Omar

name: ns1.lppi.com
Address: 209.81.54.6

Name: ns1.sex.com
Address: 209.81.54.5

Name: ns1.persiankitty.com
Address: 209.81.54.4

Name: ns1.abc-web.com
Address: 209.81.54.7

Name: ns1.intergal.com
Address: 209.81.54.8

Name: ns1.unfaithful.com
Address: 209.81.54.9

The connection is obvious...Gary
Kremen is sex.com, Robin Nixon is
ABC-WEB, Dean Shannon is Intergal
(one of the largest adult sites on
the web), Rick Ramage is Unfaithful
(one of the oldest adult sites on
the web), and Beth Mansfield is
Persian Kitty...yet the IP's are
just one apart from each other, and
they're all registered to LPPI's
office address.

All of these companies are actually
owned or operated by Lewis De Payne
under different corporate shells to
hide the fact.
confucy

Somebody wake serge up. This i think is Oprano history. It is the first 'Pearl' AND 'Moron Says' quote all in one. It's never been done before and Confucy did it!

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"Omar, from one anon to another...
who the fuck are you?
************************************

OH MAN THAT'S FUUUUUUUUUUUUNY.....A CLASSIC!
mutt

Cunfucy,

why do you complain that people are dumb here yet you never post those articles about Lewis Depayne.

Don't worry though.. I have forwarded this info to Paypal and someone actually wrote me back and thanked me. I think this suit will be thrown out because the entire basis of his suit is fraud and he portrayed himself as someone he isnt..

This is funny. I wrote my buddy that works for wired as well and he wrote me back he wants to do the story cause there is nothing else going on. It is going to be about the charade of Lewis De Payne and Persian Kitty. I told him this guy fooled people for years.

This is a crackup. I think cunfucy is andy edmond!
CuntFucky

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Omar, from one anon to another...
who the fuck are you?

It's about time you idiots started
doing your homework.

It takes anons to get the truth out!

At least leave us an email address.
confucy
Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:29:58 - IP: 64.12.103.171 - Post # 56938
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL........BWAHAHAHHHAHHAAHHA.....AHAHAHHHAHAHHA...... that is the god damn funniest thing i've seen in awhile. Confucy is a put on i think. Nobody could be this moronic. It's just like her post yesterday to Dravyk where she got all snooty and told Dravyk that just cuz she thought he was a horrible radio show host doesn't mean she doesn't like him personally. HOOHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.......that's comedy. The Confucy Show!!!
mutt

Confucy, I am not anon...

Todd, defend Lewis!! He will need your unabashed love once he heads to court and PayPal uncovers who he really is! :))

PayPal would have not launched their IPO if they were really worried about the (2) current lawsuits they have against them.

Cheers SexToyKing...BTW, we upsell your products on 5 paysites we own. Keep sending the checks!

Omar
Omar

Hey Mike,

I just know this omar / anon isn't letting us know about lew because he wants to help us.

I will let you and confucy take over from here. just doing my liberal duty you know:)
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Man now Cunfucy is up.. I do not know how I am going to be able to sleep tonight with all this going on!!


Todd, I think Omar has made his point that he respects the talent of the man, but has reservations about him being a crook.

Anyone convicted of a crime in my book is someone to keep an eye out on. Especially a federal wire fraud charge....


Mike AI You have a friend you can get cheap domains from!

Omar, from one anon to another...
who the fuck are you?

It's about time you idiots started
doing your homework.

It takes anons to get the truth out!

At least leave us an email address.
confucy

Omar / ANON,

are you a kid or fucked up??

You say you like him, respect him, etc. I someone is my friend and I respect him, I would never bring up such personal shit as criminal record, etc. that is purely fucked up, and shows no respect!!!
You have an Agenda, that is forsure. and I think everyone can see that..
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Todd, why so anti Omar? You are defending someone you don't have a clue about! I just posted some drivel about Lewis DePayne. He is the dude suing PayPal, and I hope Lewis wins. Paypal owes me a lot of money.

But, I just thought people should know who Lewis is. I don't have a bone to pick with him. I actually respect the guy. But he does have a past and a history. He is a criminal.

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Man, I am glad to see I am not the only one who keeps hitting the refesh button! I only wish I had more to say.

Until tomorrow, or is that later today?
Plugger I think I could use some of those glass dildos . . .

Plugger, a possitive attitude is very important in all aspects of life.

Ok I am taking off, Chris/Pornoman ( the woman) is up in my room calling me, so I have to go take care of her.

Interesting to see where this heads...

Who is Omar?
Who is Beth?
Who owns PK.com?
What is Beths relationship to Lewis Pain?
Will Jeremy wake from his coma, to find out his sister is marrying his best friend?
Is Confucy really a guy?

Stayed tuned to Oprano...


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Todd, why so anti Omar? You are defending someone you don't have a clue about! I just posted some drivel about Lewis DePayne. He is the dude suing PayPal, and I hope Lewis wins. Paypal owes me a lot of money.

But, I just thought people should know who Lewis is. I don't have a bone to pick with him. I actually respect the guy. But he does have a past and a history. He is a criminal.

Cheers,
Omar

Omar

Omar,

what does PK going to conventions have anything to do with the tea in china?

Many webmasters never hit the trade show scene, and as far as business goes, I belive she always made good coin:)
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Thats right MikeAI, I have made just about every mistake I can think of, well until I make the next one.

This is gonna be my year!

Plugger I bet you wish you had one of these!

Plugger, I think many of us are in THAT SAME BOAT AS WELL. Many times I reflect back on the decisions I made in the past, and think " what if...."

However, I try to learn from the past, and do not dwell there!


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Mutt,

hey bro, I didn't even see your post before posting mine:) great minds think alike:)))
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uh.....who is omar? lol

kinda ironic that a guy skeptical about someone's real identity or whether they actually exist can't reveal himself either.

Is everybody in the FBI Witness Relocation Program? :)
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Todd, I appreciate your post about PK wanting to be private because of kids etc.....

But, I remember the days when persiankitty got r00ted and all of the sudden Lewis DePayne was running her site.

If PK was REALLY a woman, she would gladly go to conventions. That would only make her more money.

Think of it beyond the box.....No one has met PK in person. Only talked to 'her' on the phone.

Personally I think Lewis DePayne has been running Persian Kitty and Beth Mansfield is a sockpuppet, a girlfriend, a wife???
But remember I remember when PK started up and it was Lewis DePayne running it...Beth Mansfield happened along a few years later.

hmmmmmmmmmm.............
Omar

Omar,

I don't give a shit about wire fraud or any of those non violent crimes. you might think he's Kewl, but you also sound like you have an agenda?
So you have been around since 1995-96, well, what are some of the sites you had back then. Cause there aint mabey 5-10 webmasters in adult online, that have been on as long as me, that is forsure. I mean if were going to start bringing up ppl's shit, let's at least know who you are??

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I am a woman.

Just felt I should put that out there..
chris/pornoman

Omar, many of us guys got starts as girls on the net. Serge, RB, me... and IS guess Mr. Paine! hehe

I think the only person signing Lewis Paines praises was Confucy.... and well, that is not saying much.


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I kick myself for it now, I would be drinking Dom instead of beer
---------------------------------

Omar,

Thanks for that statement, I may not be drinking Dom, but at least I have Roderer Estate; and that is better than beer :)

If I had a nickel for every time I kicked myself I would have that beach house in Cali like Vick. At least I live in Cali . . .
Plugger I bet you wish you had one of these!

uh.....who is omar? lol

kinda ironic that a guy skeptical about someone's real identity or whether they actually exist can't reveal himself either.

Is everybody in the FBI Witness Relocation Program? :)
mutt

Maybe Lew Paine is also Confucy, looking for an new outlet and masking himself as a woman again.


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Todd. Lewis DePayne is totally kewl. That boy could tell you stories! True, he has a past...I am not trying to bring the man down. Just trying to tell people to think twice before you hail a potential hero. The man is a convicted criminal. Bottom line. We all make mistakes, Lewis made a HUUUUUGE one! Read the law on wire fraud, and you will understand. :))

PS, I have been in this fucked up game since 1996 and no one I know has met PK. Lewis, yes...Beth, no.

MikeAi, You are correct. Hell you should know...getting a hot chick to make it look like it is her own site. hahahah.....It is part of the game, and you probably play it better then anyone on the planet. I like your game you play....money money money. Fuck the pussy. This is all about money. Same game we play, but on a smaller level~ :))
Omar

Mmmm this is intersting stuff to think about Omar.

Where is Serge when you need him, he has a great memory!


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Omar,

consider 1 point of view. PK has always said from day 1 that she wanted to keep the adult very private as she had kids, etc. Never went to convetions, etc. Said she came from the accounting field and all. Mabey Lewis just was her public person you know?? She always said to me in chat, my kids are #1, I can respect that:)
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Mike, the old "I have kids and have partners, it REALLY is my site!!"

Regardless, I know what I know, you know what they fed you. To sound repetitive, I remember when Lewis DePayne approached us in about 1996 as the owner of PK asking us to supply models for an amateur venture he was getting into.

I kick myself for it now, I would be drinking Dom instead of beer, but we kept it legit and in this internet downfall, we are growing.

Stick with'em. PK is large, and the traffic is great! But the people who run it are shady, as I have proved in the posts below.

Omar
Omar

Omar,

I have never met PK at all, just chat in the old ynot chat, and mabey 1 or 2 emails. I saw her Kitty boat or whatever she calls it, from a pic she posted online way back when.. She is from the area near where I grew up in seattle.. I thought I remembered her from 1995, belive she was around.
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Omar, I understand the concept when tryin to push porn to surfers, but to other webmasters, well that... well that would be a great plan! haha

Especially when trying to get attention for PK website to make it look like a nice, sweet lady running the site. Makes great press....

:-)

The truth is out there!


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Omar,

I don't know Lewis DePayne really at all, but the 1 or 2 times I talked with him, he was pretty dang cool.

I guess a friend might have had a payment problem for a design or something, Lewis took care of the whole bill for him. Shit, I don't care if someone has had a law problem before, we all make mistakes..
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Todd, aka Sextoyking, very nice story! I have never met Beth, aka Persian kitty, and I know one except for you that have met her. But PK reminds me of a typical amateur site. Man running it pretending to be a woman....woman shows up at conferences pretending she runs it, man makes bank.

Good racket, eh? I was onboard the adult internet in 1995. I remember Lewis DePayne running PK and approaching models of ours to start an amateur site. Never heard of Beth back then if she even existed..

Omar
Omar

Omar, no doubt. Business is business. I guess I have always wanted to know what the real secret was behind PK, and Beth's secrecy. I always assumed she wanted to be low key due to her family.

I also know she had taken on partenrs...

but that is about it....

I guess I am just curious, and like gossip! :-)
Mike AI You have a friend you can get cheap domains from!

No doubt Beth is a great lady, just trying to figure out how Lew Paine is tied in with her.


Mike AI You have a friend you can get cheap domains from!

mutt, good sleuthing! I remember when DDgirl.com left their FTP server wide open with anonymous FTP logins....hehehehe...that was about 5 years ago, though.

Mike, don't break your relationship with PK. Money is money. That is what this game is all about. I would do business with them too, but Lewis DePayne seems to have a memory fart that last time I tried to get a site listed with them.

As for that chick who just posted, Beth may have a few kids, but is it Beth running PK or felon Lewis DePayne?

Come to your own conclusions. Do a google search on Lewis DePayne (the host and mind behind PK) and think what you want. :))

Yours,
Omar
Omar

Beth / AKA pk is real, and has a damm nice boat to boot:)

I remember in 97 or 98 or something, she posted this guy owed her money for ads or something, from portland. I happended to know who he was, as he did some programming for us to intergrate icverify with nt/unix. Anyways I called this guy and said Man you gotta pay what you owe, Pk is a friend, and you don't wanna ruing your whole rep over a bill. She told me later he paid. I don't know her that well, but always has seemed like a very nice and gracious lady:)
sextoyking Glass Dildos and more.

But anyway J, i still owed you for getting me into all this :-) I salvaged everything and still managed to build something.

JR
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That's nice to hear, man!

We should catch up - drop me an email.

:o)

That's fucked up about the Ice Cream deal AND the Vette

;o)

Ya live, ya learn!!!


J$tyle$ Got Cloud9content on YOUR site yet?

Omar, I am just trying to peice everything together. It will not change my business relationship with PK or anyone else.

Business is business, if Serge was really a figment of some womans imagination who was really behind Serge Clicks, that would be cool too!


Mike AI You have a friend you can get cheap domains from!

JR: Right on, I wondered it when you said Russian but did not fully close upon the notion.

How have you been! Having actually met under such weird circumstances, that makes the ribbing I've taken from you over the last two days put a bigger smile on my face!

Far-L Homegrown makes enough to afford Oprano advertising and AVN at the same time!

J$,
also to top everything off, i wrecked a new corvette on the way to Seths offices one day to harrass him. :-(


JR

Way back when I started in this biz, PK (Beth) was a regular in the old Ynot chat (which became the Ynot/Sextracker chatroom it is now via a short stint as the Pornoholics chat). She used to come in and talk about shopping and her boys...so I hope she's real! ;)


Lisa Recurring, recurring and recurring...

Oh Shit, its going to be a IEG family reunion!
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Not likely, Mike

...but I do kinda miss Seth's exploits - it was always fun and interesting!

;o)


J$tyle$ Got Cloud9content on YOUR site yet?

MikeAI, Luke Ford spoke to her on the phone too. OOOOPS! Don't delete this post! hahaha

But, I can run the biggest assed Female Owned Amateur Website of the Millenium and have a chick answer the phone.

From what I have seen of YOU, I see a tight relationship between you and PK. I am not here to tarnish that. lol, it ain't gonna happen. But, I just wanted to bring light to who Lew Payne was. Not in a negative term, but the dude changed his name for a reason. He has a nasty assed history.

Omar
Omar

http://www.lppi.com/job/index.html

also read this 1999 story about PK and Lew Payne, interesting history

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/11.11.99/index.html
mutt

What ever happened to the ice cream business? It was ice cream, right?
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i used the ice cream to get lure the girlies. :-)

actually that fucking idiot took some out dated ice cream and put stickers over the dates with new dates on it and we sold it (two 40 ft containers)... and it was a huge scandal that caused a lot of shit.

it was just another hard lesson about carefully choosing who you do business with, over putting it all in writing.

kinda like Marshalack and his "huh, wha?? we have a contract" after i invested and lost a couple hundred grand on the strength of that stupid piece of paper.

But anyway J, i still owed you for getting me into all this :-) I salvaged everything and still managed to build something.

JR

i think PK the woman really did start the links site on her own, somehow the introduction was made to Lew Payne, and then it looks like he controlled things. He claims to have invented the concept of banner rotating ad servers, probably true. He had so many people wanting to advertise he figured out a way to sell more ads.
I bet Beth Mansfield kept doing the grunt work of updating Persian Kitty, dunno how the financial partnership worked.
mutt