MikeAI, isn't Beth Mansfield the voice behind Persian Kitty? Sorry if I am wrong on that point, I am an oldie and only remember Lewis DePayne running the site. I thought Beth was the 'female' behind Persian Kitty.
Omar
Sat, 16 Feb - 22:38:27 211.23.60.66 Post #: 56900
Hmmm I have never met Beth in person, but I have spoken with her on the phone numerous times. She was real or the best actress I have ever met, because she was knowledgeable and remembered specific issues we spoke about...
Sat, 16 Feb - 22:38:24 66.157.50.234 Post #: 56899
I am not saying that Beth does not exist, but I never met a person in this industry that actually met 'her'. I am probably wrong, but I am going back 7 years when Persian Kitty started up, and they wanted amateur models. It was not Beth that contacted us, it was Lewis DePayne. Maybe Beth is shy, I dunno. Don't want to start anything here. But I am very old school. I am not up to par on current events, just remember the old stuff.
Sat, 16 Feb - 22:31:07 66.157.50.234 Post #: 56896
mutt, good points.
Keep in mind that Lew Payne is actually Lewis DePayne. Maybe he flew under the radar of PayPal. He has been doing it for years under the Persian Kitty banner. I remember when Persian Kitty started and Lewis DePayne solicited one of our models asking her to start an amateur site with him. It wasn't Beth Mansfield, it was Lewis DePayne soliciting her posing as PK.
That was years back, though.
Sat, 16 Feb - 22:29:05 66.157.50.234 Post #: 56894
i just read a few Lew Payne articles that really support what omar here is saying about the underground.......it seems like Persian Kitty was basically his, they don't even mention the woman known as P.K.. It's like she's not even in the picture, he was negotiating all sorts of stuff like a Persian Kitty magazine deal with the publisher of OUI magazine etc, a Persian Kitty paysite, he also hired models and made a bunch of content.....anybody ever seen it?
He is partnered also with J Stephen Hicks the famous Penthouse photographer and runs the site DDGIRLS.COM. Beautiful photos and chicks.
GREAT HOCKEY GAME! USA TIES IT UP!
mutt
Sat, 16 Feb - 22:29:04 24.112.37.86 Post #: 56893
<hint> we met in Seattle while you were selling some photos in a certain someones 1st avenue office </hint> aftwards, you wanted to broadcast content from Russia and we spoke many times, exchanged many e-mails and phone calls.
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JR -
I thought I recognized your face the other day when you posted the pic of yourself and lady.
What ever happened to the ice cream business? It was ice cream, right?
Sat, 16 Feb - 22:24:29 66.157.50.234 Post #: 56891
JR: I would not want that job for all the blowjobs in Bangkok, but I am sure a lot of happy strokers out there are glad to throw cash at you and call you their hero.
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Far-L, after all that, it still not has occured to you who i am?
<hint> we met in Seattle while you were selling some photos in a certain someones 1st avenue office </hint> aftwards, you wanted to broadcast content from Russia and we spoke many times, exchanged many e-mails and phone calls.
JR
Sat, 16 Feb - 22:19:17 62.118.142.249 Post #: 56890
MikeAI, I believe he was convicted of wire fraud. Years ago...maybe he cleaned up his act? He was not involved with credit card fraud. It was wire fraud involving Nokia. Either way, this boy knows his shit.
Personally, I would not deal with him. If I wanted a hacker, or a bad assed security audit he would be my man. Other then that, I would not touch Lewis with a 10 foot pole. He has a past that may not mean much to the normal folk, but to this industry this guy could fuck you up bad. Hamsters or not! :))I just hopes he cleans PayPal's clock.
Orman
Sat, 16 Feb - 22:18:43 211.23.60.66 Post #: 56889
OK Orman you are scaring me, I don't want Mr. Pain to take down the Oprano server... We just invested in some new hamster treats!
:-)
Funny how little things like this slip by people however. If PayPal actually contracted with him, and their is a lawsuit, the fact that he is a convicted criminal dealing with a credit card billing company is VERY BIG NEWS!
Sat, 16 Feb - 22:12:11 66.157.50.234 Post #: 56888
Perhaps Lewis DePayne cleaned up his act? I dunno. He is well regarded in adult internet. But so many people know little about his past. And he is well linked to Persian Kitty. Hmmmmm.... In the underground years ago it was rumored that Persian Kitty was 0wn3d by him...meaning " you join with us, or we will take your site down...." Just a rumor though. But he has a VERY shady past. Wouldn't want to fuck with the guy on a digital level.
Orman
Sat, 16 Feb - 22:08:26 151.204.104.53 Post #: 56886
Mike AI: How about Far-L the Foolhardy or Far-L the Pithy?
JR: I would not want that job for all the blowjobs in Bangkok, but I am sure a lot of happy strokers out there are glad to throw cash at you and call you their hero.
I'd bet ANYTHING that VISA/MASTERCARD nor his prospective partners at PAYPAL know he was convicted of wire fraud. Even if his software is just the gateway i think it's pretty dangerous to have somebody convicted if fraud anywhere near an e-commerce system.
mutt
Sat, 16 Feb - 21:58:35 24.112.37.86 Post #: 56879
you to provide them with live models or are you part of that company
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i am not a part of that company and i do not really believe in contracts outside the context of spelling out each parties responsibilites. contracts are just paper and either you trust you will not get fucked or you dont. i always go with my gut, over a signature on a piece of paper.
it was just a small stupid business that grew rapidly out of control with the false idea this it was really easy to make so much money. we decided to just rapidly expand first without really thinking what that meant and what the problems would be from serious management issues multiplied exponentially to crashed servers, crashed chat servers/video servers, billing billing issues etc.
as we grew, there was a lot of friction and it was also increasingly difficult to manage the people and things slid backwards to the point that i was ready to let it go.
I thought about quitting then decided get tought and to make things better, build new studios, fired all girls (mostly because we created a very negative culture that was too difficult to turn around), created a better business plan, management plan, management structure, training systems and improved communication in the company and quality and performance of the models and we are now growing again very fast.
i have been laying low for a long time just trying to improve on the success of what we have before expanding. right now, things are starting to come back together, we moved everything to the new studios and are getting everyone into the groove.
if anyone thinks it is easy to keep all this stuff going 24/7 working effectively with and building a business around a lot of models who are.... lets say "less than reliable" and not always responsible.
think again. but we are actually doing pretty well now and getting it together.
JR
Sat, 16 Feb - 21:57:07 62.118.142.249 Post #: 56878
Oh, BTW, I don't have a bone to pick with Lewis DePayne or Kevin Mitnick. (I would be a fool to do so!) But the newbies and the uninformed oldies have a right to know....Lewis DePayne is a convicted criminal. Unfortunately Kevin Mitnick will be unable to comment as he is forbidden from touching a computer. Perhaps Lewis can comment for him??
Yours,
Orman
Orman
Sat, 16 Feb - 21:53:42 211.23.60.66 Post #: 56877
Orman, welcome to the Gumbo of Oprano!
Thanks for the good info, reading up on it now.
I hope you have prepaired yourself for the shit storm that we can Confucy! ;-)
Ok. We all know that Lew Payne is currently in litigation with PayPal. Good for him, PayPal needs a kick in the ass.
But you should learn more about this dude....hell you all have a right to know, right? Lew Payne is actually knows as Lewis DePayne, and has been convicted of wire fraud and is a pal of Kevin Mitnick.
Please, check out the following URL's, come to your own conclusions. By Lewis going to court, I don't doubt his dirty past is going to become very public knowlege.
... Lewis DePayne, the accomplice to notorious hacker Kevin Mitnick, pleads guilty to
one count of wire fraud for his role in a series of computer break-ins. April ...
Soooo.....Lewis DePayne aka Lew Payne is a convicted hacker, cohort of Kevin Mitnick.
Come to your own conclusions....Perhaps he cleaned up his act. I am surprised he would sue PayPal...why not bring the down, Lewis? You have the technical knowlege to bring the to their knees!
Just do a search on Google for Lewis DePayne (aka Lew Payne). That is your hero. *cough cough*
cool. Does Directsex contract you to provide them with live models or are you part of that company?
This is now a GREAT game. Played at a very high level of skill and intensity.
mutt
Sat, 16 Feb - 21:38:54 24.112.37.86 Post #: 56872
mutt, yes but two of them are not me. plus i have a room with claudia just to experiment too and will probably do much more with her in the new future.
i am in the process of moving everything so the asian ones are offline for another 36 hours or so. i turned those over to a friend and moved the others to moscow because it is so damn hard to find nice asian girls anywhere and compounded by the fact that it is a niche and has smaller demand.
i built new studios this summer at www.pleasurelabs.com/images/image1.htm and we are still working on finishing another 2000 sq ft of the building.
JR
Sat, 16 Feb - 21:29:15 62.118.145.62 Post #: 56871
USA USA USA !!!
scored the first goal, lead Russia 1-0.
JR, what sites do you live models appear on? Is it those Directsex cams?
mutt
Sat, 16 Feb - 21:22:32 24.112.37.86 Post #: 56870
JR, congrats. ;)
Mutt, this has been a really good hockey game so far. Having Richtor in goal makes me nervous though, never thought he was that great a goaltender especially in big games.
Ulfie
Sat, 16 Feb - 21:15:50 12.226.152.173 Post #: 56869
JR: I met my wife and asked her to move to CA from WA after two days, which she ending up doing within two weeks... we have been together 18 very happy and crazy years... Good luck, you know when you know...
Sat, 16 Feb - 21:13:11 12.228.49.169 Post #: 56868
Mike AI: Thanks. You should see what my brother has to put up with...
Just one question though... is your fiance going to let you come over to dp Confucy with me for old times sake?
Can I now be royally dubbed by the rulers of Oprano, Far-L the Enigmatic? Don't worry about having to set me up with a castle or anything... I already have one...(so what if it is not as big as you or Serge's...)
Sat, 16 Feb - 21:10:51 12.228.49.169 Post #: 56867
thanks everyone. i am 31 and never really planned on getting married. i have 50-60 models working for me all the time with many live chat rooms going 24/7 among other things, with that number growing every month.
i have had a great time the last few years and have had my pick of the most beautiful women i ever imagined. in the end, it was just a hollow and empty experience and i felt very alone and unhappy.
When i met Julia a year ago, we knew immediately that we would always be together. That feeling has only gotten stronger from the first day we met. :-)
JR
Sat, 16 Feb - 21:08:47 62.118.145.62 Post #: 56866
Sat, 16 Feb - 21:07:51 24.147.73.216 Post #: 56865
f-r l, lets go...
1814 took a little trip,
along with Col. Jackson
down the might mississip...
Seriously though, I have no problem with you, your business, or wish you harm. I am shocked you think there are any lackeys here at Oprano.
The people here at Oprano are opinionated, educated, intelligent, witty, and can spot bullshit from a mile away. There is no pack mentality. The same people who one day slam you, on another day say I am full of shit.
That is how Oprano is...
Glad you have been adding to the gumbo, and HONESTLY hope you spent more time here. Either as Good Far L, or the Evil F-r L...
Sat, 16 Feb - 20:47:05 151.204.104.53 Post #: 56860
Mike AI: Let's you and me sing a round of "Jambalaya" together and let bygones be bygones.
No?
What about "Battle of New Orleans" then?
You guys should realize by now that I went to the Stravinsky school of posting to learn the Method, and my instructor of course was the world reknowned Meni.
As i said at the beginning of the whole thing that set this crap off between us, you know I will always be thankful and respectful for you helping me out in the beginning.
You and all your lackeys can rip on me until I cry like a baby but that is not going to change.
Say, isn't blackened anything just a cruel joke played on the tourists by Prudhomme anyway?
Sat, 16 Feb - 20:25:32 66.157.50.234 Post #: 56844
Well Vick I may not have a place in Cali on the beach, but I do have a fishing camp... it is on the water. A great place to boil crawfish, crabs and shrimp!
Sat, 16 Feb - 20:20:30 62.118.145.62 Post #: 56841
RE: "I've got a condo in town and a trailer on the river."
Is that your trailer? Hey, as soon as I make enough for some gas, I'll drive my van further down the riverbank so I'm not blocking your view of the water :)
Robert
Sat, 16 Feb - 20:20:04 216.39.135.17 Post #: 56840
Monkey: (You don't mind if I refer to you by the diminuitive do you?)
Please find a new effigy to burn. Isn't there some rocks that you can go throw at tanks or something?
Anytime you want to take your broad sword of swipes against my rapier wit I will meet you on the fields of glory... until then, what exactly to you do besides bust my balls?
The young lions Serge and Mike have certainly good cause, but you... well, let's just say you look like a hyena trying to compete with the vultures trying to get a scrap of me...
Does being such an opportunist make you more successful as a business person too?
JR: Did you know that Russell was a chronic masturbator? Historical fact...
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No i did not know that.
since you mentioned it, i was reading about Kellogs.. the guy behind the cereal. Was anyone aware of what he was about?
originally, the purpose of the cereal was to provide a nutritional basis to counter the "negative health effects" of masturbation.
JR
Sat, 16 Feb - 20:11:51 62.118.145.62 Post #: 56835
According to Adult Interent legend Lew Payne is one of the pioneers. He hosted Persian Kitty, still does maybe, Serge said he hosted him as well. I think he might own a big chunk of Persian Kitty.
Confucy has some relationship with him. Or she's stalking him.
mutt
Sat, 16 Feb - 20:09:14 12.228.49.169 Post #: 56832
My second home is in central PA, man, am I a loser or what? Frankly, I've been to Aspen and have no desire to go back. It's where Ameritrash hangs out.
Ulfie
Sat, 16 Feb - 20:05:31 12.226.152.173 Post #: 56831
I post current news. Why haven't the major news sources jumped on the LPPI lawsuit? Because Lew Payne is in the porn business, and they don't give a damn in someone in porn gets screwed.
The news media is lazy like you, mutt. They don't want to do their homework to find out just how important this lawsuit really is.
Mike, nobody is following your life, my little porn board owner! But as long as you feel the need to bore the hell out of us with all you have and all you have done, what choice to we have but to scroll over it on our way to something more important. During the scrolling, I catch a few glaring points which you seem to think we all should know about you.
Personally, I don't care how or why you decided to use AI. For months I thought it meant...ANUBIS IMBECILE!
confucy
Sat, 16 Feb - 20:05:23 205.188.193.24 Post #: 56830
Movers and Shakers with money have homes in California on the beach with second homes in Aspen
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I've got a condo in town and a trailer on the river.
:))
dantheman
Sat, 16 Feb - 20:04:30 67.32.106.33 Post #: 56829
More important, does the "technical genuis" Lewis Paine have a house on the beach and in Aspen?
Sat, 16 Feb - 20:00:54 66.157.50.234 Post #: 56825
more quotes on confucy:
"One always has the idea of a stupid man as perfectly healthy and ordinary, and of illness as making one refined and clever and unusual."
-Thomas Mann
JR
Sat, 16 Feb - 20:00:43 62.118.145.62 Post #: 56824
Movers and Shakers with money have homes in California on the beach with second homes in Aspen
***************
hahaha, if you want to hang out with pompous assholes and have dick swinging contests every night those are definately the places to be.
Ulfie
Sat, 16 Feb - 19:58:03 12.226.152.173 Post #: 56823
for confucy:
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt."
-Bertrand Russell
JR
Sat, 16 Feb - 19:57:55 62.118.145.62 Post #: 56822
more confucyisms:
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and consciencious stupidity."
-Martin Luther King, Jr.
JR
Sat, 16 Feb - 19:57:23 62.118.145.62 Post #: 56821
yeah I think Confucy must be dating Lewie Panie or something. She only comes out to post about the "technical genuis" who is being fucked by the big bad pay-pal.
Wonder if she has an axe to grind??
Confucy, I have only left New Orleans 3 times in my life, us Souothern folk don't get out that often. No what I am saying partner?
Sat, 16 Feb - 19:55:38 66.157.50.234 Post #: 56820
re confucy:
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
-Anonymous
JR
Sat, 16 Feb - 19:54:39 62.118.145.62 Post #: 56819
confucy do you have amnesia as well as your gift for being an annoying bitch?
You've now posted this Lew Payne lawsuit against PayPal I think 5 times. I know you worship Payne and the Persian Kitty lady but guess what in every article written about PayPal they never mention your hero's lawsuit, just the other ones.
I don't think Mike wants a Malibu beach house and one in Aspen. Isn't that kinda lame anyways, shows no imagination. Mike is keepin it real, his roots are in the bayou riding a lawnmower. He's not a phoney and that disappoints you.
mutt
Sat, 16 Feb - 19:52:44 24.112.37.86 Post #: 56818
Confucy, you still sticking up for the little people?? ;-)
You seemed to keep track of my life pretty closely... yet not close enough.
I live on my moms porch... JMM is moving in next week. There is room for you and Lewe Paine if you need a little help.
You know I was digging through the referal stats as well, and have been putting somethings together... :-) Maybe oneday we will have some things to discuss about your personal life.
One of the Persian Kitty owners who is a technical genius designed and built a billing program which PayPal stole. This is how PayPal works. They cheat and lie. Read the lawsuit and become informed and then you won't be coming here asking stupid questions.
Also, Mike...do you know what an asshole you are becoming? It's interesting to readers to watch you make a complete fool of yourself and rave on about owning a billion paysites, taking care of your mommy in style, dating a teenager, etc, but for the record....who gives a shit!
The house you bought outside New Orleans has a view of weeds. Movers and Shakers with money have homes in California on the beach with second homes in Aspen, they don't have $10,000 shacks in the swamps of Louisiana.
You are making Serge look angelic with your latest bullshit arguments with the idiot friend of Ron Levi.
Carry on while we all sit back and have a good laugh at your cockholster crap.
confucy
Sat, 16 Feb - 19:44:34 205.188.197.53 Post #: 56816
Sig is the man. Orignally the partners formed InterCosmos with the intention of getting into a fat IPO. But when reality struck the market, we actually had to come up with a plan to make a profit.
We have been approached about being bought up by a few large companies, but have thought it best at this time to remain on our own.
Sig is the only person on Mardi Gras day will fight traffic downtown just to make it to the office to work! He has 3 computers on his desk, and a bank of monitors.
Mutt you would like him, he has a very quirky dry sense of humor... I know he and Serge get along very well!
Sat, 16 Feb - 19:37:05 66.157.50.234 Post #: 56815
Sig Hail! Sig Hail!
maybe Intercosmos will go public one day?
mutt
Sat, 16 Feb - 19:29:57 24.112.37.86 Post #: 56814
Mutt, I do not think Sig has post on a board ever. Being the CEO and guiding light of a pretty big company he is always busy. I would not be exagerating to say that he works 75-80s a week. He always has... since I have known him. He is the smartest, hardest working person I know. He is the James Brown of the Internet!
AI came about because at the time there were a lot of Mike's posting. MikeFold became MikeFold, I became Mike AI...
I would had to sully MikeFolds good name with my cranky posts...
Sat, 16 Feb - 19:23:40 66.157.50.234 Post #: 56813
MikeAI,
Yes, ANAL.
However, if you are a receiver, I can introduce you to Cleo...I believe she is a giver.
:o)
Monk
Sat, 16 Feb - 19:20:13 156.34.181.152 Post #: 56812
why has Sig never once added to the gumbo? Is he planning on entering politics one day and does not want to be tainted by all this?
Truthfully back when Mike started to post on YNOT as MikeAi, i thought that was his last name, i thought it was Phillipino or Arab or whatever.
mutt
Sat, 16 Feb - 19:19:45 24.112.37.86 Post #: 56811
to whomever runs the statistician website. We would love for you test out our newly redesigned site: http://www.alltwinks.com One of the few sites that serge is a member.
jonas zOOted - v2 coming soon
Sat, 16 Feb - 19:17:54 216.189.162.55 Post #: 56810
Monk as long as you said Anal Intercourse, and not Alien Intercourse! :-)
Sat, 16 Feb - 19:05:34 66.157.50.234 Post #: 56807
I thought AI in Mike's name was for Anal Intercourse
Monk
Sat, 16 Feb - 18:54:02 156.34.181.152 Post #: 56806
"The only thing that ever consoles man for the stupid things he does is the praise he always gives himself for doing them."
-Oscar Wilde
:-)))
JR
Sat, 16 Feb - 18:50:32 62.118.142.201 Post #: 56805
"JR: Maybe you should realize that is just a game that I am playing too... ;-)
now buy my freaking content before I have to eat a bug..."
I can't bear to watch this anymore. I am embarrassed for Far-L, even if he is too stupid to be embarrassed for himself.
Monk
Sat, 16 Feb - 18:44:19 156.34.181.152 Post #: 56804
I thought the AI in MikeAI was in reference to Allen Iverson?
I have seen Mike play hoops and he is the opposite of Allen Iverson in every way, except they listen to same music, do their hair same way and have simliar tatoos..
chris
Sat, 16 Feb - 18:43:12 68.5.176.10 Post #: 56803
"Monk: Almost forgot you"
Good, I don't think I could have handled the zingers like you gave the other guys.
Monk
Sat, 16 Feb - 18:42:28 156.34.181.152 Post #: 56802
Brad S.: In my next feature, I would like you to play the role of the midget...
We promise to hire a stunt double for the tossing scenes...