Wig - "about 2-3 large onions"
I like Vidalia Onions
But have to make sure you get the real Vidalia Onions
Big flat and oval
Slice longway to get big flat onion slices
Wrap in tin foli and butter
Or sear and get nice grill marks
on both sides

http://home.att.net/~ejlinton/vidalia.html



Vick I make Punk Rock and mix it with the hip hop

Peaches
Will you marry me?

Billybob (I'm Fucking Cleo)

Sykk,

Literally redwood? Like CA redwood? Or redwood chips as in cherry or other "red" woods?

It sounds good, though! I love venison. I like to take the tender loin or backstrap, cuut it 1" thick, put a jalapeno or serrano in the middle and wrap it with bacon and smoke it.

Damn, it's amazing how many serious grill masters we have out here. ;-))


Wig For a juicy turkey...

I need to get remarried just to have someone grilling for me :))

Peaches
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Peaches,
BillyBob is available
;-)))
Serge

I need to get remarried just to have someone grilling for me :))

Peaches

Wig, Peaches,
look what you have started!!!!!!!
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Serge
Are you looking to donate?

Billybob (I'm Fucking Cleo)

Wig, I know you were joking ;)

redwood chips add a great flavor, especially to game meat such as deer or venison
with antelope I use a couple red onions and sliced fresh apples and set the meat on a rack above the onions/apples and a coevr on the pan...
SykkBoy Make More Bank Now

Vick i forgot about the ear eating. Yeah the Tyso grill is good for them too. If you order this weekend, they'll send you a big bottle of Iron Mike Tyson's So Damn Hot It's Ludicrith BBQ Sauce.

The Muhammed Ali Grill was taken off the market. It was very shaky and would fall off the counter becoming quite a fire hazard.




mutt

Now we are talking, I know of a few penises that I would like to smoke.
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Wig, Peaches,
look what you have started!!!!!!!
;-))
Serge don't like $1 surcharges to members?

Serge, I knew that was going to get me in trouble! ;-)

Vick, good to see someone else knows how to use a pan when smoking meats. I always take about 2-3 large onions, slice them up and add them to water in the pan.


Wig For a juicy turkey...

Now we are talking, I know of a few penises that I would like to smoke.

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

Mutt how is that Tyson grill with ears?

I like to cook a roast using indirect heat on the weber kettle grill
pour apple juice and a red ale in the pan underneath the roast, push whole black peppercorn into the roast and use hickory wood chips to get more flavor
takes about 2 - 2 1/2 hours
Is great for a cookout party, have beer, watch foodball when when game is about over the roast is done



Vick we use a dependable processer for this program one that acts our our partner

just like the buffalo penis I smoked.

]***********************

I love seeing men without inhibitions, way to go, Wig!
;-))
Serge

Sykk, redwood as in?

The snapper was a joke, just like the buffalo penis I smoked.

Damn, that sounds terrible.
Wig For a juicy turkey...

Wig, nothing is good as my wife's snapper....er, are we talking about fish or...?

I prefer using red wood chips when barbequing
SykkBoy same ol' situation

shit, i need to put down the wine....

smaker = smoker ;-))

Wig For a juicy turkey...

Speaking of grills. I did get an electric smaker and was surprised at how good it works. It is a kettle with a small electric heating unit at the bottom. It has a tray to lay chips on and it really seals in the juices. Great for when you want to put something on and walk away.
Wig For a juicy turkey...

The GF grill is great for when you don't want to light up the charcoal for just a couple of hot dogs :)

Peaches

Peaches,

But was it as good as my wifes snapper? LOL

Had a great time. Next time we do fish from your lake. ;-))
Wig ACHdebit

Anyone ever try Drunken chicken?

You take a beer can, pour about 1/2 out, shove it up a whole chicken and prop it up on the can and its legs. The malt really gives it a good flavor. Of course rub it down with cavanders and paprika.


Wig ACHdebit

I got the Mike Tyson Grill.
But it's only good for cookin and eatin' Lennox Lewis' chidren and i haven't caught one yet.
mutt

I got a foreman grill as a present. nothing can cook all the taste out of food like that thing.
I'll stick to charcoal and hickory. ;-))
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And let me just say, Wig can smoke a great buffalo's penis :)

DaveAFX - I think it's Chops that's owned by the Pano's and Paul folks (P&P will ALWAYS be my favorite restaurant - I've been eating there for 20 years ;)) I haven't been to Bone's in several years but they used to have private rooms for parties and that was VERY nice!

Peaches

Vick,

Thanks. Hope we can do some biz someday.

Weber makes a great grill! I use a lot of hickory, but cherry wood also has a great flavor.


Wig ACHdebit

WTS - Am diversified - we have 5 billing solutions
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Maybe one day you can add us. ;-((

I ddn't know there were 5 out there. ;-0


Wig WTS - First to bring ACH... First to Bring Canadian ACH... Guess what's next??

Wig - you are another one of the processors who have taken the time to educate about processing
Thank you

KK - is great for that

John at Jettis also has taken time and effort to help educate me

I'll stick to charcoal and hickory
That is what I use in the summer with a weber kettle grill

Got a George Forman grill for Xmas
you can get a good flavor from one
The covered top helps seal in juices and the design of the grill help eliminate fat
but like anything you have to learn how to cook on it
Is hotter in the center and cooler on the outside
I like to use a blackend seasoning and sear the meat on both sides then move it to the less hot portion of the grill and cover the grill to lock in the juices
Still can't get the hickory smoke flavor with an indoor griall

Serge - thanks for reminding me of that




Vick we use a dependable processer for this program one that acts our our partner

hey briana-banks.com gets 1000 unq a day
whats it worth
i might sell it
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

know the email post was long but
"I lost 30% of my rebilling from Ibill last year between May and August due to declines"
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...and I gained 30,000 billable visitors to sponsors after losing sexia.com and 1ok to Steve Cohen....

did you read what JStyles had to say about those "losses"?
;-)))
http://www.oprano.com/pearls.html

second from the top
;-))
Serge don't like $1 surcharges to members?

I got a foreman grill as a present. nothing can cook all the taste out of food like that thing.

I'll stick to charcoal and hickory. ;-))


Wig WTS

I just finished my cheeseburger, prepared on the foreman grill
95% lean meat
fat free cheese
ketchup
mustard
and some A1

now blow me
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

Serge - one of the many things I learned from you over the years
read between the lines

"affraid???
and how does your contract you signed addresses this issue??? "

know the email post was long but
"I lost 30% of my rebilling from Ibill last year between May and August due to declines"


Vick we use a dependable processer for this program one that acts our our partner

WYS = WTS
Wig WTS

WTS - Am diversified - we have 5 billing solutions
Ibill is a secondary processor from me
I have a fair amout of rebills still tied up with them and am concerned if I stop using them totally
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Wasn't aimed at you, Vick. ;-))

I wonder what's the worst thing, though... not using them or posting what you have even though you are right?!?!

WYS will be adding TWO check boxes to our join pages and merchants will be thrilled!




Wig WTS

hippy food.

A day without nitrosamines is like a day without sunshine!
mutt

Tick tock, Dokk's on my cock.

Ill check it out.


__________________
Bow to the Power
Boneprone Family 4-Lyfe
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hahahhahaha,
funny things I found on GFY
;-))
Serge don't like $1 surcharges to members?

"I always enjoy watching the real professionals work! "

A good contract is actually EXCELLENT reading..


DaveAFX

Well I just finished my black beans, rice, broccoli and yucca dinner.

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

voodooman, yup, Rocky Mountain Oysters...everyone loves them until you tell them what they are......
SykkBoy same ol' situation

One of the few instances, that I am in a comfortable position
with this. From the very beginning of my business I have
had my own merchant account, since I have always primarily
sold hard goods on my sites, rather than a membership fee.


photo HoseBucks !

DaveAFX,
if Vick is affraid,
I think IBill got one heck of the contract!

I always enjoy watching the real professionals work!
;-)))
Serge

A good contract for you makes YOU not afraid. It makes the other guy more afraid. The best contract is one the the other guy is in default from the time he signs it!

DaveAFX

Reese's Cereal? I will try it if i can find it. I am a gourmet.
But i will tell you that Cap'n Crunch once had a peanut butter flavored cereal and it wasn't good.

Carpacio Shmarpacio. Frosted Mini Wheats and milk beats that.
mutt

While were on the subject of
food, I used to go out and
cut the balls off of bulls,
uh back in my younger years,
and we would have a bucket of
beer sitting by us and after
severing the bulls nuts, just
toss them into the bucket.
After we was done, we would
start a fire, cook those suckers
right there, Talk about delish.
voodooman

I have revenue tied up in rebilling with Ibill an am afraid what will happen if I totally stop using them.
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affraid???

and how does your contract you signed addresses this issue???



aren't the contracts supposed to eliminate the word "affraid" from ther business transaction????
Serge don't like $1 surcharges to members?

"Reese's Cereal"?
__

Isn't it required to have yellow smiley faces or pink flowers next to your post when you talk about breakfast?


DaveAFX

Would like to see an opranofood.com board ;-)
Many posters here know and enjoy good food and fine dining
********************************

I think I have a quote for it already:
"It's lonely at the top, but..
you eat very well"
;-)))

monkey brains, anyone?
;-))
Serge don't like $1 surcharges to members?

Serge - "my question is:
WHY webmasters hang to all those "processors"?

I have revenue tied up in rebilling with Ibill an am afraid what will happen if I totally stop using them.
Only processing a very small amount of new customers with them

Vick we use a dependable processer for this program one that acts our our partner

You haven't read my article?

http://www.incomeprograms.com/econ.html



DaveAFX

WTS - Am diversified - we have 5 billing solutions
Ibill is a secondary processor from me
I have a fair amout of rebills still tied up with them and am concerned if I stop using them totally

Serge - Have spoken to Jettis, haven't used them because at the time they did not offer the flexibility I wanted in billing
They came across very well.
John at Jettis emailed after I declined using them and we had a positive conversation

Photo - Ibill WILL remove the UNAUTHORIZED prechecked box
That is the only option
Am making an issue of this

Would like to see an opranofood.com board ;-)
Many posters here know and enjoy good food and fine dining


Vick we use a dependable processer for this program one that acts our our partner

Has anyone tried "Reese's Cereal"?
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TGP2 is NOT dead!!!!!

One can't die if one never got born!
;-)))
Serge don't like $1 surcharges to members?

Has anyone tried "Reese's Cereal"?

Chocolate and Peanut Butter. The cornerstone of any nutricious breakfast.

Colin Insite Presents .. TGP2 Bucks!

WTS says... DIVERSIFY, DIVERSIFY, DIVERSIFY ;-))
Wig
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Wig,
I'm sure that if IBill wasn't hurting,
they'd never do it
;-)))

my question is:
WHY webmasters hang to all those "processors"?


Did they forget DMR already?????????
Serge don't like $1 surcharges to members?

Actually there are places you can get that, though it isto my knowledge, a Korean dish...
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where?

in US?

I think animal lovers would burn the place to the ground!

to tell you the truth, I tell Zhora from time to time when he misbehaves that we are going to Korean Restaurant next
;-))
Serge

Magick : we'll see.

mmmm mm m, im eating a plum and custard danish at the moment from the best bakery in Australia, i reckon.

Yummmmy, better watch the kg's though. lol

Luv
Babyluv Check out this content....

That also puts you or any other webmaster using
iBill in a VERY difficult position, Vick.
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WTS says... DIVERSIFY, DIVERSIFY, DIVERSIFY ;-))
Wig

DaveAFX, I have no doubts in my mind that KKD is gonan come down like internet stocks did but...
so far, shorts been proven wrong time and time again
;-)))
Serge

OK, steak, carpaccio, pan-seared tuna are all acceptable subjects of conversation on this board. But if we start getting off-track and talk about
'breakfast cereals' 'danish' or 'muffins', I'm going to "Another Board."
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
and I'll follow with you ;)))

"Eating Raoul" was hilarious...Mary Waronov(sp?) and Paul Bartel were excellent and the movie was funny as hell, my favorite scene was the client who dressed like Hitler and chased her around the room as part of his role play....
SykkBoy Make More Bank Now

I used to live on the
same block as a
vietnamese restaurant,
I lost 2 dogs in 1
month.
Coincedence?
voodooman
***********************

Seth,
bon appetite!
;-)))
Serge
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 04:09:32 - IP: 172.138.93.57 - Post # 54731


Actually there are places you can get that, though it isto my knowledge, a Korean dish...

Of course the rumor that "Lassie" in Korean, translates to mean "Yummmm" is, well just a rumor...

;-))


photo HoseBucks !

"900 P/E ratio"

Is that the P/E, or fat grams?
:)
DaveAFX

That also puts you or any other webmaster using
iBill in a VERY difficult position, Vick.
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hmmmm....I wonder what Jettis say about that
;-))
Serge

hee hee
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

eating raoul is one of the 20 greatest films ever made.
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I've seen it like 100 times and it just keeps on getting better.

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

That also puts you or any other webmaster using
iBill in a VERY difficult position, Vick.

Should you put somthing on your site notifying surfers,
that they will be billed an additional dollar, and that
if they do not wish to make this contribution, that
*they* have to uncheck the box, since that contribution
is preset be default?

If you did, how would that statement be interpreted
by surfers? That you are looking out for their interests
as consumers? Or that you are against contributions to
the International Organization for Missing and Exploited
Children? Or that you *might* even be against efforts
to control child pornography? It is a no win situation.


photo HoseBucks !

eating raoul is one of the 20 greatest films ever made.
grimm (Blow Me)

But if we start getting off-track and talk about 'breakfast cereals' 'danish' or 'muffins',
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may we talk about Krispy Kream and it's stock price with 900 P/E ratio?
;-)))
Serge

Sushi is also excellent...I'm always up for a good chunk of raw tuna (not a word, Grimm)

;-))


Magick

Eating Raoul


Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

Serge. it sounds similar to the "kelaguin" (sp?) I was talking to you about before
sharky
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yes, and Sharky, sushi is also RAW, but "Real unshaven RAW is GOOD"!
;-0)))

check General's post about it on Millionair's Board!
Serge

Am I like the only vegetarian webmaster that does porn or is it just that I have fallen into a pit of carnivores?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Cleo, you just haven't met the right steak yet ;)))
SykkBoy Make More Bank Now

hehe...Grimm.... ;-))))

Sharky, because it is GOOD!!!


Magick

I used to live on the
same block as a
vietnamese restaurant,
I lost 2 dogs in 1
month.
Coincedence?
voodooman
***********************

Seth,
bon appetite!
;-)))
Serge

Magick - whyw ould someone want to eat that? totally raw?

http://recipes.lycos.com/Recipe.asp?Code=85017

Serge. it sounds similar to the "kelaguin" (sp?) I was talking to you about before
sharky Serge Shaved - are your current sponsors shaving?

Babyluv, carpachio is absolutely -incredible-! It is probably the most tender thing you will ever put in your mouth (as far as food goes ;-))


Magick   
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 04:00:12 - IP: 24.116.3.249 - Post # 54719


reeeealllly?;)
grimm (Blow Me)

OK, steak, carpaccio, pan-seared tuna are all acceptable subjects of conversation on this board. But if we start getting off-track and talk about 'breakfast cereals' 'danish' or 'muffins', I'm going to "Another Board."

:))


DaveAFX

carpachio is excellent...and healthy (if the meat is butchered/handled properly of course) the more you cook beef, thee more you cook out the minerals and nutrients...

mutt, the movie was "The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover" by Peter Greene...excellent flick...although I was a bit squeamish at the scene in which the Theif catches the guy stealing from him and forces him to eat shit, then barks "next time, maybe I'll make you eat your own shit"
SykkBoy

beef carpacio rules
grimm (Blow Me)

I think the soup is called pho bang. there is a good vietnamese place on the westbank that serves the best pho bang i have ever had.
grimm (Blow Me)

ohhh..imagine sinking your teeth into THIS:

http://recipes.lycos.com/Recipe.asp?Code=85017


Magick

Vietnamese beef
***************
I used to live on the
same block as a
vietnamese restaurant,
I lost 2 dogs in 1
month.
Coincedence?
voodooman

I'm just keeping my pets away from you all.

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

Actually, for the last several years,
my favorite way to eat steak, is to have Pḥ,
which is a Vietnamese beef and vermicelli soup...
The wafer sliced steak is put in raw, and
cooks from the heat of the soup...

and you can get a bowl that is big enough
to be a meal in itself for less than $5.00...


;-)



photo HoseBucks !

Carpaccio is best with gorgonzola.

hey, check out this fish tank:

http://www.mr4000.com/



DaveAFX

Babyluv, carpachio is absolutely -incredible-! It is probably the most tender thing you will ever put in your mouth (as far as food goes ;-))


Magick

Am still very angry over this issue
Here is the email from Ibill to me and the reply

Hello Sharon,
Thank you for your reply. Wonder why you did not call as promised?

I called Ibill client services on Saturday, was informed that the UNAUTHORIZED prechecked box would be removed by Monday. Why did you not honor that agreement?

Today I was told by Victor in Client support that the box could not be removed. Ibill then placed me in an uncomfortable situation. I had to demand that the box be removed. Only then was I promised a call back from you. I wanted to speak with you then to resolve this issue but was told you were "in a meeting"

I will not reconsider my request to remove the UNAUTHORIZED prechecked box. Please understand this is not acceptable, you will remove the prechecked box now.

You have done this for your customers that bill over $1,000,000 per month. I demand and deserve the same consideration.

Used to process a fair amount through Ibill, removed Ibill as the primary processing solution after losing 30% of my rebills in a 3 month period from May 2001 to August 2001 due to declines. Used Ibill as a 3rd party processor for 4 years, you can check your records, my first account number was 8615

Am sure you can understand your failure to honor your commitments, as well as challenges you have processing, give me a lack of confidence in Ibill and their abilities as a 3rd party processing solution. Along with the comments I have heard from my members that Ibill freely issues refunds and has even asked customers if they would like a refund when they called to get information on billing .

These are my customers generated by my efforts.

You did not ask my permission to extra bill my customers.

What happens when a customer didn't see the UNAUTHORIZED prechecked box (that ibill sneakily placed onto websites with no warning or PERMISSION) and questions me about the extra charge. Will you issue refunds then?

I will make this an issue on every webmaster board and gathering place I can.
Please see
http://www.tgp2.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000131

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index.php

http://netpond.com/msgboard/

http://www.topniche.com/msgboard/message.cgi

You can see for yourself, are losing customers due to this policy. I will personally inform as many webmasters as I can to unacceptable practice.

Am also going place this email in it's entirety on these webmaster sites, so everyone is aware of Ibill's stance of this issue.

I don't want my surfers seeing prechecked
"I agree to a One Time Tax Deductible $1 Donation to The International Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
The charge on your Credit card Statement will appear as WebPldg.org. "

May make them rethink joining

What percentage is Ibill keeping for administrative cost of this " excellent demonstration of goodwill"?

Again why did Ibill not inform webasters of this added UNAUTHORIZED billing?

As you can tell I am very angry, have every right to be. I do not take business to webmaster boards normally. Called twice, you didn't return my call as promised. You didn't honor your Ibill's agreement to remove the UNAUTHORIZED additional billing. Also I am unhappy with other Ibill issues.

Check around, I worked hard to have a good reputation in an industry known for unsavory characters. This is not some rant, this as you can tell is an issue I feel very strongly about.


Sincerely,
Vick D. Gisin


At 03:16 PM 2/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:

Dear Vick,

Thank you for contacting iBill Client Services. We welcome your inquiry and
will strive to provide you with accurate and timely feedback.
As part of our effort to protect minors from exploitation, iBill has
partnered with two leading organizations to raise awareness and funds for
this important cause. We are proud of our partnerships with the
International Organization for Missing and Exploited Children
<http://www.icmec.org/> and the Nation's Missing Children Organization
<http://www.nmco.org/>. We now offer consumers the opportunity to donate $1
with each transaction to these important groups. To further show our
commitment to protecting children from exploitation, iBill will contribute
an additional 15% for every dollar donated to its partner organizations.
The box that you are inquiring about is the check box we've added on pay
pages to enable consumers to make the $1.00 donation. In an effort to
increase the effectiveness of this fund raising program, we have chosen to
keep the box checked. Consumers have the option of unchecking the box
should they wish to not make the donation. There is no cost to you, the
merchant.
This program is an excellent demonstration of goodwill on behalf of the
adult entertainment industry. Please reconsider your request to remove this
option from your site and show your support to the International
Organization for Missing and Exploited Children. Once again, there is no
cost to you or your site.

Once again, thank you for choosing iBill for your payment processing.

Respectfully yours,

iBill Client Services



Sharon
Manager/Client Services
iBill
sharonv@ibill.com


Vick we don't use IBill as our processer for this program

Am I like the only vegetarian webmaster that does porn or is it just that I have fallen into a pit of carnivores?
************************

CleoBob,
Someday I'll convert you,
BOTH ways. :-))
voodooman

Babyluv, you have to try it. It's incredible. Just ask Serge. ;)


Ulfie

Whether your just plain curious, or if fucking your sibling, sucking your parent, tasting your son, or eating your daughter turns you on, you need to join incest.com. Our exclusive adult content will keep you entertained.
**********************************

I get this spam from Incest.com every day. Not only is it sick but it's just retarded. Anybody know who hosts them?

Tasting your son? bwahahahaha.....cannibals. Hey what's that movie with the opera music and it's all about this fancy restaurant and they are going to eat a guy. Ahhhhhhhh.......The Butcher, The Thief and something else. Weird flick.
mutt

Anyone ever had carpachio as an appetizer?
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Yes, 2 orders at Ruth Chris,
less than 30 minutes ago.

;-)))


Webfather

or is it just that I have fallen into a pit of carnivores?
******************************

Cleo,
confucy is also vegetarion...she hasn't had meat in her mouth for years, which explains her behaviour from time to time
;-)))
Serge

Id have to go with medium rare for my stakes. rare on fish like tuna, swordfish or sea bass.


I like things raw, the slimier the better:)
grimm (Blow Me)

ok, um ulfie you just grossed me out compleately!

i read your post and it gave my shivers.

Luv
Babyluv Check out this content....

ahhh steak...as my father would say, knock off the horns and the hooves, slap it on a plate, and get the hell out of my way.

;-)))


Magick

Am I like the only vegetarian webmaster that does porn or is it just that I have fallen into a pit of carnivores?

Cleo (to know me is to love me...)

When I was growing up if you asked for steak sauce at my house my mom probably would have slapped you for insulting her cooking.

This place really does need a food board. ;)


Ulfie

I have not figured out yet how he shaves the pots.
:))

DaveAFX
**************************

"You can't beat the EXPERINCE"!
;-)))
Serge

Anyone ever had carpachio as an appetizer? You start with a piece of raw meat and pound it until it is razor thin. Add some capers, lemon juice, and a little parmesan cheese and eat it raw. Now that's some good eatin'. ;) Damn, I'm hungry now.


Ulfie
*******************

webfather introduced it to me,
excelelnt beginning!
;-))
Serge

I can't believe anyone would want a steak cooked well done, but to cover it in steak sauce? The only reason they make steak sauce, especially Heinz 57, is to cover up the restaurants sorry ability to cook a steak.
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My sentiments exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Serge

Anyone ever had carpachio as an appetizer? You start with a piece of raw meat and pound it until it is razor thin. Add some capers, lemon juice, and a little parmesan cheese and eat it raw. Now that's some good eatin'. ;) Damn, I'm hungry now.


Ulfie

All I ever used to do In ATL was eat. Too many places...


DaveAFX

Sharky...you got it!

DaveAFX....Yes and No (I think)....I am almost sure that Bones is an independent deal and not affiliated with BLG...even though BLG has several fantastic places!!!

--T


SweetT BAM!

"..if Serge is winning.."

Serge does not have to win at poker. I have not figured out yet how he shaves the pots.
:))

DaveAFX