Jimmyslits,
you've got mail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Serge

meanwhile, back in the trenches
((o;

ProdigalFold LOL Feeling Good Louis

Slits!!!!
LOL....

ProdigalFold LOL Super Bowl Hangover

Todd, i am not saying i agree with him.

<pearl>
i respect your views.

as i said: in politics, it takes the views of two sides to find the middle. The more passionate people are about their views, the more accurately you can define the middle.
</pearl>

i am just saying that porn also built the case for him. When Ashcroft attacks, he will be firing with the ammo we gave him.

The ultimate responsibility in that lies within the industry itself.

JR

good luck Mike. You guys both deserve to be paid at least what it cost you to fight the bully.

JR.....Serge posted that yesterday... he got me going for about 10 seconds.
mutt

Who's the big winner Mikey! :)
Jimmyslits Looking good Billyray!

Excluding Florida :)) hahaha
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That said, things can change, and the fight will always continue. One Person 1 vote.
sextoyking

http://www.cnn.comtopnews-02-06-2002@64.214.129.36/news/

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JR bombshelter

mutt, I am not totally informed on that issue...

I know we petitioned for such, but there may be some issues with that.
I may have to file my own countersuit...
(not a prob, the counsel is still on retainer, and for some reason, i feel like burning the cash (thx Hard Rock Casino) ((o;
)
(((o;
ProdigalFold LOL Super Bowl Hangover

Jr,

If it was a democrat Att. General, I would be saying the same thing.

Ashcrofts words are on record, We need to root out all type of porn, should we have this kind of material around our kids and families. it's the same old game in a nut shell. People like Larry Flynt and his lawyers will be back in court fighting the goverment / states in an effort to stay in biz. I have accepted long ago that while we might be the best country in the world in my opinion, when it comes to adult material, and other freedoms like this we are no way close to the relaxtion they enjoy in most of europe and other places. That said, things can change, and the fight will always continue. One Person 1 vote.
sextoyking

Today's conversation has me remembering what I heard my Daddy tell me many times I as was growing up:

"CactusButt,"

..ok maybe he didn't call me that...but...

"one of the quickest and easiest things in life to destroy is trust...and one of the slowest and hardest, although not impossible, things to rebuild in life is trust."

Holds really true in ALL aspects of life, but especially in business...

CactusButt

"In Speech, Bush Calls Iraq, Iran and North Korea 'Axis of Evil" -- N.Y.
Times, 1/30/02

ANGERED BY SNUBBING, LIBYA, CHINA SYRIA FORM AXIS OF "JUST AS EVIL"
Cuba, Sudan, Serbia Form Axis of Somewhat Evil; Other Nations Start Own
Clubs

Beijing (SatireWire.com) Bitter after being snubbed for membership in the
"Axis of Evil," Libya, China, and Syria today announced they had formed the
"Axis of Just as Evil," which they said would be way eviler than that stupid
Iran-Iraq-North Korea axis President Bush warned of his State of the Union
address.

Axis of Evil members, however, immediately dismissed the new axis as having,
for starters, a really dumb name. "Right. They are Just as Evil... in their
dreams!" declared North Korean leader Kim Jong-il. "Everybody knows we're
the best evils... best at being evil... we're the best."

Diplomats from Syria denied they were jealous over being excluded, although
they conceded they did ask if they could join the Axis of Evil.

"They told us it was full," said Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

"An Axis can't have more than three countries," explained Iraqi President
Saddam Hussein. "This is not my rule, it's tradition. In World War II you
had Germany, Italy, and Japan in the evil Axis. So you can only have three.
And a secret handshake. Ours is wicked cool."

THE AXIS PANDEMIC

International reaction to Bush's Axis of Evil declaration was swift, as
within minutes, France surrendered.

Elsewhere, peer-conscious nations rushed to gain triumvirate status in what
became a game of geopolitical chairs. Cuba, Sudan, and Serbia said they had
formed the Axis of Somewhat Evil, forcing Somalia to join with Uganda and
Myanmar in the Axis of Occasionally Evil, while Bulgaria, Indonesia and
Russia established the Axis of Not So Much Evil Really As Just Generally
Disagreeable.

With the criteria suddenly expanded and all the desirable clubs filling up,
Sierra Leone, El Salvador, and Rwanda applied to be called the Axis of
Countries That Aren't the Worst But Certainly Won't Be Asked to Host the
Olympics; Canada, Mexico, and Australia formed the Axis of Nations That Are
Actually Quite Nice But Secretly Have Nasty Thoughts About America, while
Spain, Scotland, and New Zealand established the Axis of Countries That Be
Allowed to Ask Sheep to Wear Lipstick.

"That's not a threat, really, just something we like to do," said Scottish
Executive First Minister Jack McConnell.

While wondering if the other nations of the world weren't perhaps making fun
of him, a cautious Bush granted approval for most axes, although he rejected
the establishment of the Axis of Countries Whose Names End in "Guay,"
accusing one of its members of filing a false application. Officials from
Paraguay, Uruguay, and Chadguay denied the charges.

Israel, meanwhile, insisted it didn't want to join any Axis, but privately,
world leaders said that's only because no one asked them.
Mike AI Content to make everyone happy!!!!

ProdigalFold, we have been following the case between Playboy and Terri! Mutt has been posting every article he finds!

We are all glad to see the final outcome, to know sometimes justice does prevail.

On top of that, it appears there is some comsic justice out there which is starting to crumble the Big Bunnies empire!!


Mike AI Content to make everyone happy!!!!

Terri and you couldn't get court and legal costs against Playboy for bringing the frivolous suit against you?


mutt

yes...
Six Figures later, and countless hours Terri prevailed...it was senseless and frivolous to begin with, and being named a co-defendant was not the highlight of my career...

Rand, I have, and I would like to conclude all the issues as soon as we can.
Thanks

ProdigalFold LOL Super Bowl Hangover

Mustang, another lesson you learned. Keep old e-mails. I have e-mail going back to 1997...

Serge taught me that lesson, wish I would had been smart enough to keep all of them going back to 1995...


Mike AI Content to make everyone happy!!!!

I wish I would of kept my emails I had back and forth with Dan about just what we are talking about.

But with two plus years of not getting paid, I just put it in the "Got Fucked" file.

I wonder where Dan is now?



mustang

HEY the prodigal Mike has returned to the Fold!!

Good to have you back Mikey, lot of people e-mailing me asking if you were ok. I told everyone you were probably resting up, laying out on beaches or golfing...

Glad I was right!!
Mike AI

Thanks Mike AI. Your take on that is correct. Our policies have never changed regarding reseller payouts. Thank you for your post.
Also, Mide Fold, I appreciate your good words too. You probably dealt with me on that. :) Thanks guys.
Rand at EPOCH Thanks!

JR that is indeed a pearl. Pornographers will be lumped into the same pile, by most of the population.

However, I think a small group can be considered enlightened enough to understand there are different levels.

There is a difference between porn and out right theft, which goes on a lot in this industry.

I think most people draw a distinction between Hustler and Playboy...

Education is the best way to open peoples eyes...


Mike AI

Good to have you back MikeFold. Pickem went well, a bunch of us watched the SuperBowl and updated the scores as the game went along.

Thanks to MaxCash and the other sponsors for making it a success.
March Madness is up next!

And congrats to Terri Welles for kicking Playboy in the nuts once again in the courtroom.


mutt

Mike AI...
your assesment of that is Very accurate.
It is solely dependent on the primary account....(the program)
not the processing company
How the hell are ya?

MikeFold Super Bowl Hangover

Well the one thing the American public, small as the viewing audience if for PBS, will learn tonight is that some of America's largest corporations are now pornorgrahers. General Motors through Hughes owns Directv. They can't pass their involvement in hardcore porn as we just carry the programming our customers want bullshit. They don't have to carry the porn channels. Blockbuster doesn't carry XXX videos. Directv doesn't have to carry porn they have CHOSEN to become pornographers, the largest pornographers in the world now or pretty soon anyways.

I'm all for it. I just don't like hyprocrites.
mutt

Back from a couple of days gaming and golfing....
Glad to see the PickEm went well...great job mutt and oprano
((o;

Good to see Epoch posting and clarifying here...
i can say that when and if I ever emailed them regarding spam, they were very proactive in cancelling the account(s)

MikeFold Super Bowl Hangover

Mustang I think you are wrong on this issue. I have been working with Epoch for a long time, 2-3 years ago I did millions of $$$ business with them. There policies have been pretty consistent.

It appears to me that maybe the programs you were working with missled you, or is holding back your $$$.

Maybe you did not educate yourself on the terms and conditions. I find that even I do not read the detials on most of the programs I sign up for.

Maybe you assumed you would get the 5% back... ASSUMPTION many times gets people in trouble. ( I know I have fallen victem to it)

You may want to look at what other processing companies are doing with the hold backs as well with certain programs - especially those who pay on the reve share model.

If you have any evidence that Epoch's stnadard operating procedure for Reserves has ever been different, I would be interested in seeing it.


Mike AI

Should be very interesting, of course I am very concearned that the old "Meese" days are going to be fruitful very soon. We all know Ashcrofts views on Porn
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Todd, my opinion is that liberalism is a blame game. Not the other way around. Liberalism is about reacting on an emotional level without taking responsibility or accountability and pointing the finger at the problem and trying to change or at least lay the blame elsewhere.

liberalism is the easy way out and is always a cause centered around a "dream" or "injustice"

you are drawing comparisons to people forcing their views on people with questionable constitutional right to do so vs. people who we, as an industry have given real and substantial ammo and justification to ourselves to shut us down.

ahem... will all the "not guilty" pornographers raise your hand? (serge excluded)

I would not welcome seeing my business destroyed, but i cannot say i would be surprised.

I doubt Ashcroft pioneered any beastiality sites, kiddie porn sites, double billed credit cards, abused dialers, spammed illegal sites, ran a "celeb site", tried to get short lived publicity and success by selling the rights to stolen honey moon videos or the latest "Brittney Spears Blow Job Fuck Fest" or anything even close.

however, this industry does it all day everyday. how is Ashcroft to blame for that?

<pearl>

Here is something i can say with absolute certainty:

people do not distinguish between good pornographers and bad pornographers.

we are just pornographers.

</pearl>

that is fact that this industry is in denial about.

JR

Again, thank you Serge. We appreciate the support from you and others always. We are on a mission to make things right, fix anything that needs fixing, clear up any misunderstandings, and be the best at what we do. Sometimes we need feedback to do that and sometimes we just need to get the word out. ;)
Rand at EPOCH All About Reseller Payments...

" ***A BIG Misconception is that Reserve funds are paid to resellers/affiliates. Depending on your sponsor and their contractual agreement, most affiliates processing with Epoch no longer pay any reserve at all. However, any reserves collected against processing in the past are never paid to resellers. They ARE paid directly to the sponsor program who is under contract with Epoch. This is not new, it has always been this way. Since resellers/affiliates have agreements with Sponsors, and due to numerous ways in which these programs work, it is the decision of the Sponsor program and/or your agreement with them which determines if reserve payments are 1) collected, and 2) repaid. Our new Zero Reserve Program maintains that resellers do not pay a reserve fee at all, therefore increasing your weekly payouts, as long as your sponsor has met the requirements."

This is odd. The sponsors who would of paid me would of been with a Epoch check. This is why they used your sytem to pay resellers. I don't think this is what has always been. I'm just thinking it's a way not to pay the resellers what is owed to us.

Well Mike, I guess you know which way my vote will be about Epoch.

ZERO !!!!!!!


mustang

Morning Opranos =0)

Peaches, hit me up at gavster at gavster dot net when you get the chance . . .


Gavster Yeeeahh, Bay-bee!

Peaches,

all the movies on Directv, hotzone, vivid, etc Are hardcore, direct dick/pussy shots, etc. Everything but anal. I have seen many facials also:)

From what I have noticed in hotels in vegas, there about the same..
sextoyking

Hi peaches,

I have tested a few of the hardcore movies in hotels and the ones i have seen have blocked most of the graphic scenes (such as cum shots, insertions, etc).

However, the ones in europe that i have seen were much more graphic.

hope that helps :)
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Rand,
I am astrong believer that dialogue is always better than monologue and one way stone throwing.

I glad that you are here separate myths from fictions,
especially in the environment where plenty of those who think they have reasons to throw the stones.

This is what separates men from the boy and Oprano welcomes your efforts.
Serge

Peaches - All the ones I have seen are what I would call softcore...maybe a little puss hair...nothing more than you can see on Skin-a-Max Friday and Saturday evenings.

CactusButt

Thanks Serge.

There has been a bit of confusion on the part of resellers about payments so I want to take this opportunity to set the record straight. And let me add, if the following information is unclear in any way, or, you are a reseller/affiliate who feels that you have a problem with Epoch in any way, write me directly and I will personally address your issue. Rand@epochsystems.com.

Epoch maintains, arguably, the largest affiliate/reseller program in the industry (and just yesterday we announced the launch of our new two tier reseller program). You can see a listing of these sponsor programs at http://www.epochsystems.com/sponsors/ All sponsors using Epoch to track their affiliate sales may choose one of two payment methods. They can choose to have all funds paid directly to them and they in turn will pay their affiliates, or, they can choose to let Epoch cut the checks for them. If payments are to be made by Epoch, there are a few things to remember.

***For a check to be generated, the affiliate must have earned a minimum of $50. Balances less than $50 continue to carry as payable until the minimum is met at which time a check is generated and mailed. All resellers are paid by U.S. Mail.

***In order for Epoch to track recurring affiliate sales, the reseller ID must have been properly submitted to our system. If the proper ID is not passed, the payments are sent to the primary account holder (sponsor) by default.

***If the check is to be generated by Epoch, then the correct and complete reseller address information must be properly submitted to our system. How else could we get your $ to you? If you need to update your address or contact info, contact your sponsor and they can update this info for you at http://reports.epochsystems.com/reseller.html

***Without exception, ALL RESELLERS paid by Epoch are paid current 100% and have been since October 5, 2001 with no further disbursement interruptions. Period. End of story.

***A BIG Misconception is that Reserve funds are paid to resellers/affiliates. Depending on your sponsor and their contractual agreement, most affiliates processing with Epoch no longer pay any reserve at all. However, any reserves collected against processing in the past are never paid to resellers. They ARE paid directly to the sponsor program who is under contract with Epoch. This is not new, it has always been this way. Since resellers/affiliates have agreements with Sponsors, and due to numerous ways in which these programs work, it is the decision of the Sponsor program and/or your agreement with them which determines if reserve payments are 1) collected, and 2) repaid. Our new Zero Reserve Program maintains that resellers do not pay a reserve fee at all, therefore increasing your weekly payouts, as long as your sponsor has met the requirements.

We fully believe that an informed client is a better client. We know that the information we put out does not always find its way to resellers/affiliates so we wanted to take this chance to address these issues and hopefully clear up any misconceptions that have caused resellers to misunderstand Epoch. WE ARE BACK AND WE ARE BETTER THAN EVER. --Rand



Rand at EPOCH All About Reseller Payments...

Question: Are the movies on PPV (Dish or DirecTV) and the "Spectravision" type movies for hotel rooms hardcore? And by that, I'm including visual anal, cumshots, facials. How about the pissing, fisting, etc.?


Peaches

I give it to Epoch, at least they are here and answer questions, it's a good start
Serge

Mike,

well you know my thoughts on this, KP, and all that bs, those people who do that shit deserve a long vacation to there local jail.

Mutt, the hardcore stuff, I don't really give a hoot about, personally I could care less about peeing, fisting, etc. but as the court as upheld, it's all "Community Standard" and to me that means, I am glad I liv e in Liberal Oregon:)
sextoyking

i'm not really sure where i stand on obscenity and censorship. Should anything go?

When I started viewing the porn that came out of L.A. in the early 80's there were no anal sex scenes, not many facials, no double penetrations, no fisting, no peeing.
These guys like Max Hardcore, Extreme Associates, and Seymore Butts have really pushed it, definitely to a point over the 'community standards' line out there in most communities across the country, in my opinion anyways.
mutt

Epoch has just payed us all of the money they owed us since 1999 - and we stopped processing with them in 1999( so I guess they are trying to correct past wrongs)
Not to mention the sponsors processing with epoch that I do business with convert excellent.
GregP Sexpromote

Well Todd, I do worry but not enough to keep me up at night. I think IF there is going to be prosecutions it is going to be the extreme stuff.

The beasty, fake beasty, violence, rape, snuff stuff. Not to mention KP and things like that.

To be honest, I wish the gov't would crack down on some of this. I am not sure if it has the resources to knock out the rampant KP...

Time will tell. Like the Miami Tribune article mentions, it is a wise use of police forces to bust people for porn when we could be chasing down al'quada?


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Mike,

Should be very interesting, of course I am very concearned that the old "Meese" days are going to be fruitful very soon. We all know Ashcrofts views on Porn
sextoyking

Todd I am with you, NYTimes and Miami Tribune already panned the PBS special...

Will be interesting, and I am sure will provide for good discussion here at Oprano!


Mike AI Bling Bling - making you money!!!

Mutt,

great articles on opranoplus! can't wait to see that pbs special.
sextoyking

I agree with your entire post Mustang!

I will keep my fingers crossed you get your $$$!


Mike AI Bling Bling - making you money!!!

I just got an email from Clay.
And I sent one back to him.
We will see how it goes.
And if they do help me and work
things out and I get my check for the money they owe me. Then I will come
and tell everyone.

But one thing you have to remember.
They are not to be commended by this.
This should of been handled a long time ago. This doesn't make them heros. Just maybe not ZEROS.

mustang

Mutt, great stuff on OpranoPlus!!

Reading it now!


Mike AI Bling Bling - making you money!!!

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New York Times Reviews PBS Porn Documentary

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mutt Read the frickin news already

Mustang, I would not hold it either. But if you do get an e-mail, please let the rest of us know.

It is good to be a critic, but if a company stands up, you should be the first one to let us know in the same way you blasted them.


Mike AI Bling Bling - making you money!!!

"I hope someone from Epoch does e-mail you, and they work something out."

I'm not going to hold my breath. :)


mustang

Where is LimpRookie4life?? I was not around earlier to play with him.

Funny how on some boards this cat is revered as a leader in the indsutry. Yet here, well he is laughed at...

BLING BLING...


Mike AI You have traffic, we can make you a deal!!!

Mustang I feel the same way when it comes to fuck me once shame on you, fuck me twice shame on me.

But an e-mail from CactusButt to possible work something out is a no-brainer. It will only take a few minutes of his time, and the payoff could be well worth it.

If you do not take a chance, you know what the results will be - nothing!

I hope someone from Epoch does e-mail you, and they work something out.

I am no advocate of Epoch, they have less then 10% of my business. But I told them if they got me completely caught up, and were timely on payments I would keep that business with them, and over time possibly return some more of it.


Mike AI You have traffic, we can make you a deal!!!

*****
Even if its is $5 or $50,000
*****

Between you and me Mike...It is ALOT closer to 5 than 50,000... :)

*****
I am counting on CactusButt sending an e-mail and hopefully getting some help!
*****

Don't worry Mike I will. I am REAL ANAL about my accounts receivable...regardless of the balance.

*****
When someone offers you peronally to send and e-mail and to work with you about getting paid, YOU TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY!
*****

Yup. And I again, I appreciate the invitation Rand.

CactusButt

"Mustang. Have you just recently become a fool, or have you always been one?"

I guess I'll always be a FOOL. When someone fucks me once. I take it.
But I never give them a chance to fuck me again.
I have tried talking to these people. I even talked to them in Vegas and got no where.
It gives me a reason to always bad mouth them when i see them post.
I guess it gives me something to do. :))
I've included my email addy this time so anyone from Epoch who wants to write ME and try to work out my issues then I will listen. But until then I will not waste my time in writing to them.
mustang

Mustang. Have you just recently become a fool, or have you always been one?

When someone offers you peronally to send and e-mail and to work with you about getting paid, YOU TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY! Even in the worst case scenario and CactusButt gets NOTHING, what does it hurt? It takes a few minutes of time!

Now on the other hand, the bright side, the e-mail may lead to CacusButt getting any $$$ he is owed. Even if its is $5 or $50,000 it is better then NOTHING.

Not opening dialogue, when offered is stupid!

I e-mailed Epoch and called when the offered to work with me, because of it they got completely caught up with my accounts, and they were more significant then 50k!

If I would have followed your advice, I might not have ever got that money!

So if you don't want to work issues out, please be my guest and continue to stick your head in the sand! I am counting on CactusButt sending an e-mail and hopefully getting some help!


Mike AI You have traffic, we can make you a deal!!!

CactusButt don't waste your time emailing them. I've tried many times.
I can't even get my address changed after almost a year of trying.
mustang

CactusButt, let us all know how the e-mail goes with Epoch. I am sure other people are as curious as I am!


Mike AI You have traffic, we can make you a deal!!!

*****
I also apprecaite the fact they come to Oprano and try to open dialouge, even when they know they will be hammered.
*****
I also apprecaite their stand by not processing for certain sites...
*****
Kudos for Rand and Clay for spending time here, and handling the heat. It is a start.
*****

I'll second these thoughts Mike.

CactusButt

"Drop me a line today with your phone number and I'll clear things up for you so that the next time you want to make a post, you will know WTF you're talking about."

Maybe Epoch can tell all of us here whom they have fucked in the past as to why anyone would want to do business with them?
mustang

Rand - you are correct, I am not a client...I am a just a poor dumbass freesite builder whose sponsor chose to use Epoch for their processing.

Appreciate the offer of sending you an email, and I'd be happy to speak with someone at Epoch who can perhaps help me get my past due $, for a change. Will do later this afternoon.

As for talking smack on the boards, everything I wrote was 100% accurate.

CactusButt

CactusButt, while I still have some doubts about Epoch, I have been caught up with all the money they owe me, and they have been paying ontime for MONTHS. I think they might have turned things around and are making progress.

I also apprecaite the fact they come to Oprano and try to open dialouge, even when they know they will be hammered. ( IT is better then other processing companies who just stick their heads into the sand when issues pop up like KP, beasty, non-nude teen sites, zombie servers, hacks, etc...)

I also apprecaite their stand by not processing for certain sites... more then other companies do. If you ask if they process for beasty sites they say NO. They do not turn around and ask if Beasty sites is illegal in all the state of this union.

Kudos for Rand and Clay for spending time here, and handling the heat. It is a start.


Mike AI You have traffic, we can make you a deal!!!

Good Morning!

Does anyone have a model release that I may have?

email to anthony at whitcon dot net please!

Thanks!
Anthony (Lord Darth Mailer)

Wig - sounds good! :)


Peaches

Peaches, yeah. getting ready to head out in a bit. And yes, John's is out 282. Good lunch if you get there in time. Better than Sue's IMO.

I'll hit ya up later and maybe we can get together for dinner over the weekend.


Wig Who's in for real-time ACH?

Monk, those are the guys i'm thinking of too.... :)
posing in front of their bad ass, low rider Hondas!!! hahahaha....with all the bling bling, MrT style gold chains and shit.....
Man I was impressed....

Glad to hear your computer problems were minor.....fickle, freakin' machines.

Maybe it would be the "Jimmy Hoffman" of porn not "Jimmy Hoffa"!!? :P
CAM

Oh, Cactus Butt, you are obviously NOT an Epoch client
____________________
Epoch still has clients???
Forest

Wig - you going today? If so, no - I have a guy coming in a few minutes for an estimate, unless you can go later :( Is John's the one out 76/282?

I don't think I qualify for Ellie Mae, but I can be Granny :) (taking nothing from Nancy/Gramma!)

Peaches

Big S, was BPJ involved in this transaction? ;-) just send the check to the hillbilly.

Peaches, your handle is good, but maybe I should change mine to Festus or Jethro. lol btw, you up for lunch? have to go out and get some horse feed and was thinking about swinging by John's country cookin'. ;-)


Forest, you ever get ahold of any Stag's cast 53? One of my friends from CA used to work there. She sent us promo cases all the time. Of course, I drank them all and later find out that the cast 53 is like $300 bucks a bottle. ;-)

Monk, glad it worked out for ya!


Wig Who's in for real-time ACH?

accounts receivable are handled here in Austin! NOT in hillbilly haven! ;-)))
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No problem. Are we still on for dinner tomorrow at Eddie V's?

Sorry Wig....after dinner tomorrow with Schlepp I'll only be able to afford MadDog 2020. That be ok? ;))


Big_S Solid as a Rock!

Responding to some earlier posts...


We are trying to use the boards to let our industry know what is going on with Visa, who, by the way accounts for about 65% of our industry's transactions. We hope that those of you that are reading these boards to
learn and exchange information will react like Serge. And Serge, the Goat-thing scares me ;)


And Mutt, Epoch does NOT, and never will process for sites involved in child pornography. Period. Our policy has always been to refuse to process this content, even in text form, we contintually monitor each site that we process to ensure none of this material exists. We, like
all processors, process for sites that are not CP, or even close, but have the names mentioned (such as lolita) in their url's, which is what the new Visa Reg is addressing. And in addition to CP, Epoch will not process for bestiality, scat, rape etc...


Oh, Cactus Butt, you are obviously NOT an Epoch client because you are misinformed. Drop me a line today with your phone number and I'll clear things up for you so that the next time you want to make a post, you will know WTF you're talking about.


There's always someone with "E-courage" willing to talk smack on the Boards. Got a problem or a question? Email me. rand@epochsystems.com.


Rand at Epoch Epoch Response

Peaches,

Next thing you know you'll be using cell phones and shit.

Monk

Werent the BoneProne punks the guys with all the bling bling, posing in front of their sports car in a picture that was posted here once?

Monk

wig,Good Call!! Just got back from the computer shop and it was my power source that fried.
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Ya know, since we got them new fangled computer thingys up here in Hillbilly Haven a few months ago, we've almost figgered out how to use them! ;)

Peaches

"Monk, sounds like your power supply may be bad. Happened to me the other day. Computer kept shutting down and then one day off button would not work either."

wig,
Good Call!! Just got back from the computer shop and it was my power source that fried. THANK GOD it wasn't the hard drive that got toasted!!


Monk

Stag??

as in Stags Leap???

I have 5 bottles of their 89 Cab

Top Notch Hootch...LOL

I opened my last bottle of Matanzas Creeks Merlot last night '93

WS gave it a 98 I think
I gave it 100
;)
Forest

Boneprone??? He was the Big Pimpin', slick daddio who was
supposed to be the "Don" of the new
Internet Pornographers Union!?? right?! hahahaha.......

The Jimmy Hoffa of porn!
CAM

Forest - 77941052

BigS - accounts receivable are handled here in Austin! NOT in hillbilly haven! ;-)))

Anthony - still waitin on that fax! ;-) 512-263-3099


bpj The TREND is your FRIEND! ;-)))

Mark,

What gives brutha? You promised if I showed you my pipe you wouldn't tell anybody. Damn good thing I didn't let you touch it! ;))

Wig,

Checks in the mail or would your prefer a few bottles of Stag?

Morning Oprano!


Big_S Solid as a Rock!

bpj

U read my mind dude

you were next on my list

do you have icq?
Forest

forest, you got mail... ;-)))

bpj breakin' out...... just like GOLD! ;-)))

hee hee
too bad you missed the pancake yamaka at cheetah 3 in pompano
boy was i FUCKED up
lets do it again next month
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

Forest,
I'm paid $7.39 per rambling and per pearl all the same.....I am even paid for YOUR ramblings and yet to be produced pearl
;-)))
Serge
Thu, 07 Feb 2002 07:34:40 - IP: 172.173.248.16 - Post # 53417
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I keep my PEARLS to myself

;)))))))))
Forest

Meni

the ONLY reason i even still read this board is cuz you make me laugh all day dude

THANX!!!

=)))))))))))))))))
Forest

Yea but 15k of them are Serges ramblings

;))))))
Forest
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Forest,
I'm paid $7.39 per rambling and per pearl all the same.....I am even paid for YOUR ramblings and yet to be produced pearl
;-)))
Serge

Hey can someone from JETTIS hit me up via icq
118156620
or e-mail
forest AT interclimax.com

or can someone point me to the right person for new accounts

I have 10 or 15 webmasters that need processing


Forest

Thanks Forest, Yes I am
so I guess I'm in charge of giving out the pearl necklaces
Line up ladies
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

1K are my pearls
Meni (The Golden Tongue)
Thu, 07 Feb 2002 07:25:24 - IP: 24.147.73.216 - Post # 5
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Meni

U ARE the pearl

=))))))))))))))
Forest

1K are my pearls
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

30,000 since July
________________________

Yea but 15k of them are Serges ramblings

;))))))
Forest

Good Morning Oprano!

Serge, Gold is at 3yesr high?? Who would have figured? ;-)) Still working on what you asked about... no luck so far. ;-(

Monk, sounds like your power supply may be bad. Happened to me the other day. Computer kept shutting down and then one day off button would not work either.

Toolz, when you get a second hit me up danp AT achdebit or ICQ 975830.

Big S, where's my commission? ;-))

Have a good day!


Wig Who's in for real-time ACH?

I think I saw Rodman wearing a BoneProne4Life shirt at the Hard Rock.
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

nope, I didn't...but...
I haven't seen any pussy in =Vegas either, I live very sheltered life
;-))
Serge

is that what he does
hee hee
I'm just fuckin' with him
Didn't you see all the BoneProne4Life shirts in Vegas?
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

meni,
c'mon, he is trying being entertaining and we don't have dialer sponsors, so let him push his in peace
;-)))
Serge

BoneProne, dude can you stay over at GFY
with the tgp submitters
who suck cock?
Meni (The Golden Tongue)

Boneprone,
hahahahahaha,
you don't know what you are asking for
;-)))

wanna make a bet that I'll get more GFY souls to Oprano than you bring from Oprano to GFY????
;-))

wanna do a friendly bet for $1000?
;-)))

I'm sure Lensman will be very happy
;-)))


Serge

Ill get it for ya.
Stay here. Ill be back.
Boneprone Boneprone 4 Life

Boneprone,
so where is my log/pass to GFY?

I'd be delighted adding 15th board to my regular rounds
;-))
Serge

Boneprone 4 Life
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hmmmm...sounds like a judge imposed sentence to me
;-))))
Serge

Boneprone,
and 30,000 on this board only, it doesn't include 14 other boards I post on the regular basis
;-)))


Serge