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in fact we at netpond had a huge booth booked.

We realised we could not afford it,(travel hotel,expenses,etc)nor was it worth the money,imho.

I wanted to leave a sign saying:

""Too busy making money to be here,good luck"

The promoters would not let us ;)))

Frankly it is an excuse for a party (well,ok,everyone likes to party) but it also identifies who isn't in this biz for the money.No what I'm saying ;)))
Nickatilynx Stories, plus all kindsa content here!

do the webmasters think you're going broke if you attempt to scale back to reasonable levels based on what you calculate to be the real return on these things?
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Kimmy, you hit a problem we came up with not too long ago...

We stopped the Booth, the parties, etc... It didn't affect our business one bit.

Remember? =o)

ArchAngelAnthony Stories, plus all kindsa content here!

Jim W,

Here's a good collection of stories you could check out. Their quality's top-notch on them.

http://www.web-legal.com/xtitles/slhtml/7271.html

(Disclaimer: Yes, I know the authors, but I'm pushing it because I like the quality and the stories.)

ThrobX Stories, plus all kindsa content here!

"Why would CCBill need to advertise? When they are already mentioned word of mouth as one of the Processors to use if you are an adult webmaster? "
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Funny you would choose that as an example Ant -- I've come back from Vegas wondering how many of the X number that signed up for accounts at the show would have ended up with one anyway, and my conclusion isn't real good when it comes to justifying the cost of that booth and all the crap that goes along with it.

On the other hand once you start with that sort of thing, if you don't continue it -- parties, large booths, giveaways -- do the webmasters think you're going broke if you attempt to scale back to reasonable levels based on what you calculate to be the real return on these things?

KK No this link doesn't work either, because it doesn't exist - duh

LOL nick - leave it to you :)

I had a myriad of reasons for doing it - most having nothing to do with money.

But - gotta say - I like cashing checks :)
Snoops (Ð) No this link doesn't work either, because it doesn't exist - duh

Toolz,

Serge did that a long time ago when he mentioned the analogy of the "Gold Rush"...

Some ppl thought what better way than a resource? =o)

ArchAngelAnthony No this link doesn't work either, because it doesn't exist - duh

ooops.....board cut off previous post ending which read:

""Sorry,just messing with you as I don't own one any more;)))

Yippeee!!!!""

The one thing with owning a wm resource is you will ALWAYS piss someone off,and over time piss pretty near everyone off.;)))

Nickatilynx No this link doesn't work either, because it doesn't exist - duh

Pretty soon, this business is gonna be wall-to-wall webmaster resources and no working webmasters to go to them. LOL

Kimmy, Uncle Serge is getting in touch with his feminine side -- i'd put a smile here if they were allowed --

Private,small,secret squirrel,illicit,rendezvous.That's where it is at!!!!!

St Nick, I understand this is the new "farm" niche. LOL

Melody No this link doesn't work either, because it doesn't exist - duh

Serge,

Look at the firestorm you've created by admitting the truth that some resource sites get outrageous per click numbers :)

Now you've gone and pissed off Jayman who'll probably drop by that hidden radio show we have weekly :)
http://www.plrradio.com
In case you get bored around 9

Toolz The Infamous Radio Show, Tonight at 9pm

Branding... Sure if you aren't already known...

Why would CCBill need to advertise? When they are already mentioned word of mouth as one of the Processors to use if you are an adult webmaster?

Word of mouth is the best form of advertising. It carries conviction, experience, and more important, loyalty to.

However, if you don't have the "Branding" of CCBill, yer ficked. Do your best advertising on as many boards as you can to get webmasters familliar with your product or services.

ArchAngelAnthony PornResource - Resource Stylin!

"""I'm in a unique position as one of the owners of a resource and a rep of a sponsor proggie."""

so you need a second income,then?

Nickatilynx PornResource - Resource Stylin!

"is measured in FRACTIONS of a cent "
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Geez Sergei, one minute you're all for fractions, the next you're throwing them out the window...

Worse than a woman I say!

Wm resource advertising, booths at shows, the list goes on of these so called 'unquantifiable tax write offs' -- however, for the people that spend the money on these ads a way to quantify the results is going to have to emerge.
KK PornResource - Resource Stylin!

**Branding... Bullshit, most cases webmasters will click on your banner if it's flashy enough and you say the magic word... FREE
**

Ya know, I still believe the value of branding is in they eye of the advertiser - but, you brought up a good point.

I'm in a unique position as one of the owners of a resource and a rep of a sponsor proggie.

On the resource owners' side - getting advertisers to change banners can be like pulling teeth - and they typically don't take advantage of free ways to promote their program (announcements, articles, etc) no matter how many times we ask them to, nor do they take the time to either a) put some effort in to building a banner that will pull or b) change it out when it becomes stale - then, they bitch about returns.

From the sponsor side - sometimes getting a resource site to change out a banner can be incredibly frustrating and tedious. We don't always have TIME to word an announcement for your newsletter, nor post on the boards, nor write an article. And, we're paying for service - so, where's the service?

Seems like a Catch-22 at times. Only answer I think of is better communication between resource sites and their advertisers - and that takes time and effort from both parties. As well as a little more work and effort from the resource sites on the creativity angle.

And, I can only speak from WebOverdrive's perspective, I don't know how other resources handle their advertisers and typically, advertisers, unless hopping mad about something, don't share comparisons with us.
Snoops (Ð) PornResource - Resource Stylin!

"""Innovative - hmmm, not sure anything is innovative anymore LOL """

Prepare to be surprised soon,then ;)))

OK,not ,for me in Webmaster Resource arena,but......

;)))
Nickatilynx PornResource - Resource Stylin!

Where it's at...

Two turntables and a microphone!

ArchAngelAnthony PornResource - Resource Stylin!

Webmaster Resouces????

They are all doomed!
DOOMED,I tell ya!!!

Double opt in,commercial email marketing.That's where its at!!!

;)))))

Conferences????Doomed I tell ya.

Private,small,secret squirrel,illicit,rendezvous.That's where it is at!!!!!

;)))

St.Nick PornResource - Resource Stylin!

Banners? Innovative?

Table ads? Banners with Text?

Talking banners?

What? Really, on this board how many of us still use sponsors? Not send to our own shit?

Depends on the board, I say.

ArchAngelAnthony PornResource - Resource Stylin!

Innovative - hmmm, not sure anything is innovative anymore LOL

but, I think alternatives to banners are on the horizon :)

yes, will be in miami - hope to see you there!
Snoops (Ð) PornResource - Resource Stylin!

Branding... Bullshit, most cases webmasters will click on your banner if it's flashy enough and you say the magic word... FREE
Only thing I can say about Branding is this... The longer a banner stays up on a board, the more a webmaster trusts the program, if they can pay for their banner space month after month, they gotta be legit. Yes, it's stupid, but true. We webmasters are a simple, but loveable lot.

Traffic... This is the same for webmaster and surfer... Traffic is King.

For what it is worth. =o)

ArchAngelAnthony PornResource - Resource Stylin!

"Re creativity - I think we all know we can't treat webmasters as surfers - BUT, we can apply the same creative thought process and effort to advertising webmaster products/services as we put into marketing to surfers. "

So true Snoops. I havent seen to many new ideas in the resource market in quite some time. Got anything innnovative coming out you can share with us?? :))

Are you going to be heading to the Miami show in August?

BossHawg PornResource - Resource Stylin!

Whoops...I forgot to say THANKS A BUNCH for the congrats wishes Snoops :)

I will have been married for a month this coming Monday :)))

Hooper shared his average cost per click when advertising at resource sites. Any other sponsors want to divulge how much they pay at the many resource sites??

This is some good discussion and I dont think sponsors have had a plce to share numbers on advertising on resource sites as of yet.

BossHawg PornResource - Resource Stylin!

**The webmaster resource market has become quite saturated as late**

Boy Howdy LOL

Re creativity - I think we all know we can't treat webmasters as surfers - BUT, we can apply the same creative thought process and effort to advertising webmaster products/services as we put into marketing to surfers.

:)
Snoops (Ð) the best audio and written stories

Maybe I should add some thoughts on Webmaster Advertising...
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Anthony,
unless you signed "omerta"-
shoot!
NOT too many people know what you know!

I might cancell AIDA oif you start singing!
;-)))
Serge the best audio and written stories

Ladies, guys,
I enjoyed today's discussion tremendously,
I wish I didn't have to go, but....

I'll sing from AIDA when I get back!

;-))

cheers!

Serge the best audio and written stories

Dunno Mark - I was referring to hand grenades on a "Tropical Isle"

(innocent smile)
Snoops (Ð) Need content let me know.. I will hook you up !!

I agree...

Why can we all just get along ???

Billy Need content let me know.. I will hook you up !!

Hrmmmmm. Maybe I should add some thoughts on Webmaster Advertising...
ArchAngelAnthony PornResource - Resource Stylin!

"Seems like that same creativity that gets applied to selling porn doesn't get put into webmaster resources. "

Hooper. No offense to Lee Noga but I remember her trying this method of advertising with that resource program that popped blur consoles when you would visit a resource site. Didnt work as webmasters can NOT be treated like surfers.

The webmaster resource market has become quite saturated as late, so putting banners every 10 spots would just annoy the hell out of anybody reading IMO...the side chicklet thing and small ads are a good alternative...

A quote from serge:
"I vote to charge the most for GOOD traffic and
give it free to sponsors if the resource has lousy traffic "
I follow that one to a 'T'...Havent charged advertising after the initial buy on any advertisers at AVSAlert since I know I dont have the time to put into it right now. When I get time to update it regularly and get mroe traffic flowing there I will then start charging again :o)))

BossHawg PornResource - Resource Stylin!

Far-L,
welcome to the "gumbo",
best of luck in our waters!
;-))

let me give you a few board rules really quick:
1) whoever mentiones forbidden word, is forver banned from here.

The list of forbidden words:
C O F F E E and all by coffee products

;-)))
Serge the best audio and written stories

Snoops:

Doesn't everyone network in hot tubs?

I highly recommend nakid networking in tubs... mergers always come up
and opportunities for new acquisitions are right there under the surface
waiting to be explored... ;^)

~Mark
XXXPhoto A pithy redneck USED to work here... lol

Why pay $0.05 for 100s of webmasters that gripe, complain, and don't produce when you can get 10-20 that will actually have some common fucking business sense and will make your program some money?
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Mark, EXACTLY!

and webmaster's loyalty especially those who sedn 4 clicks a week, is measured in FRACTIONS of a cent
;-))
Serge the best audio and written stories

After having a team of attorneys review the following post for libel, torte, breach, malaise, invective, false representation, etc and being granted conditionary approval, I am making my introduction to this board. This only cost me a 100k, but I am sure it will be worth it:

"Hello. I hope everyone is having a very pleasant day. I wish you all success in your endeavors. I hope one day we can realize peace on Earth and goodwill to all."

Far-L recession and liability proof content for consenting webmasters

Mark...I've seen you network, it's called content.

:)
Snoops (Ð) the best audio and written stories

Snoops,
those of us who can provide sponsors with the best values will survive the down turn adult industry is heading into.

Those who charge money for smoke,
(evans, please make it clear to your lawyers I wasn't talking about you)
will go in smoke...
as simple as that.
Serge the best audio and written stories

Snoops:

So was SEGuru... ;^Ð

Hooper:

You're too skinny to be obtuse... but I ain't saying you're acute either... ;^)

Serge:

Why pay $0.05 for 100s of webmasters that gripe, complain, and don't produce when you can get 10-20 that will actually have some common fucking business sense and will make your program some money?

Back to work now before the boss lady gets irked... think she will buy the 'networking' angle?

~Mark
XXXPhoto A pithy redneck works here...

yup. sorry. back to lurking.
Hooper Anyone who spends a significant amount of time with me finds me disagreeable.

JimW,
the best written and audio stories
are from RED
red@oprano.com
her stories make my dick go north,
which is a very rare occasion
;-))
Serge the best audio and written stories

Hooper, very valid point...

We haven't done that, but we have added board icons beside posts that mention our advertisers names/programs/sites/urls for that very reason - feedback on that is that those are garnering more clicks than the banners we shove in webmasters' faces.

I don't know the plans of other resource centers - nor do I believe we'll all share them on an open board LOL

But, one thing we're trying to do is apply the creativity we preach to webmasters selling porn to resource advertising.

Why it hasn't been done sooner, I'll never understand. All of us know that the days of slapping up a banner and making a mint are for the most part gone, so why do we ask our advertisers to do exactly that?

(shutting up on this one for now LOL)
Snoops (Ð) Upsells? Affiliate programs? Yeah, we got that.

"why does nobody do banner advertising at the BOTTOM of the message boards?"

But Hoopy Hoop, the top of the board IS the bottom... think about that, young grasshopper. ;D

ThrobX Upsells? Affiliate programs? Yeah, we got that.

Hooper, I thought you wanan be ignored...

what brought you to the discussion today?
Serge need GOLD that reccurs?

Hey guys,
We're looking to add some more audio and text stories to the members areas. Does anyone out there have any recommendations to pick up some good stories?

Another quick question - to the webmasters who have the Snoop Dogg video feed from Igallery - has that helped member retention?
JimW The Official OPRANO Graphics Resource Board

Mark, honey...

the seadoo was male

(sigh)
Snoops (Ð) need golden nuggets?

ok, maybe i'm obtuse.

why does nobody do banner advertising at the BOTTOM of the message boards?

I get here & i want to read the boards. Til i'm done there is a fat chance that I'm going to click on a link.

What about an ad after every 10 posts?

Seems like that same creativity that gets applied to selling porn doesn't get put into webmaster resources.
Hooper need golden nuggets?

I'd love to watch/participate in a discussion on the value of webmaster traffic. To be perfectly blunt, it's been a crapshoot since I've been in the biz. Very difficult from both the resource owners' and the advertisers' points of view to determine ad rates, return and worth.
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that is CORRECT!!!!

I just saw the stats and clicks our sponsors recieved and something occured to me:
they do NOT pay us for just clicks!

They pay us for the place to hang out wiht others movers and shakers,
make the deals UNDER the board,
;-)
see each other faces and listen them talk,
and one can't measure that in clicks values.

I don't know why jayman got upset when I told him about $56 per webmastering click....

our sponsors pay $200 per webmastering click and up,
but only those who can afford it
;-)))

small correction...JohnIP got it cheap,
he only pays $184.56 per click,
but than again he has Dravyk who talks alot!
;-)))

Serge need golden nuggets?

Snoops:

In my defense, the SeaDoo said she was over 18... So did SEGuru... ;^Ð

~Mark
XXXPhoto A pithy redneck works here...

hmmmm, although I agree Tom is tops - gotta say BossHawg is also the shitz :)

One of the best guys with one of the best operations in the resource biz :)

And I can say I knew him when :)

BTW, bryan - congrats on the marriage bud :)

Serge - thanx for the assistance earlier - much appreciated.

Data - hmmmm, well, I do have some opinions (as always)

Some spots are only good for one thing and that's branding - and branding's value is determined by each advertiser - and, for some reason, these are the spots advertisers want most - why? big dick contest? (shrug) dunno, but it's a fact.

Clicks - some platforms send clicks WAY better than others - for instance, banneroverdrive outperforms all of our other advertising hands down when it comes to clicks - one account has a 1/32 ratio on 200k imps with a good banner design. We have to rely on feedback from the advertisers on what those clicks do however - and, one thing advertisers are um, hard to pin down on, is feedback. Also, I think the advertisers' sites - navigation, quality of product and service AND quality of webmaster support has a direct bearing on how well those clicks "perform".

Imps - again, this is branding. Coca Cola I'm sure would argue that branding is paramount, however, I'm sure many advertisers would argue that getting that webmaster to their site and making them money is the bottom line - and name recognition is secondary. Gotta be a happy medium somewhere.

I'd love to watch/participate in a discussion on the value of webmaster traffic. To be perfectly blunt, it's been a crapshoot since I've been in the biz. Very difficult from both the resource owners' and the advertisers' points of view to determine ad rates, return and worth.

XXXPhoto - get back to work LOL
Snoops Doesn't look like XXXPhoto is real interested in titties - he's more interested in seadoos and SEGuru? Maybe LOL

MelissaD,

Please hit me up on ICQ.

Thanks! =o)

ArchAngelAnthony Come On Serge...You Know You Love Us

Come On Serge...You Know You Love Us
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Jim,
I love "papa" Ron,
not too many people around who influenced my life as much as he did.
Serge Come On Serge...You Know You Love Us

Sounds good Serge. She will be home on Friday. I'll have her icq you.

Got to pick up the boy, talk to you later.
Jim Come On Serge...You Know You Love Us

D$ -
I met Pato while I was at Florida State University.

Did you know he lives in a wealthy upperclass neighborhood in Virginia? A friend of mine was his next door neighbor. We hung out in his bus... But I left when they lit up. I don't like any kind of smoke.. much less pot smoke.

:-))
sharky Call in and get your site reviewed on MaxCashLive tonight!!

just two geriatric gentlemen getting their ass kicked by ten foot waves... found some Denny's pics the other day... *wink-wink*
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were you old enough to be at that Denny's???
;-))

my Gosh, goods that they didn't check for wet spots behind the ears
;-))

can you send me few pics?
;-))
Serge need golden nuggets?

Serge:

ICQ? Naw... too much crap for my tastes... I've got this new thing called a 'phone'... amazing device really; it plugs in to this jack deely-bob right in the wall!

Didn't see no sharks in Daytona... just two geriatric gentlemen getting their ass kicked by ten foot waves... found some Denny's pics the other day... *wink-wink*

My calc works on base 10 not base 'Serge' so I still get 2 for the answer... Please send me the Russian Plug-In (and no used sex toys smelling of goats this time)... lol

~Mark
XXXPhoto Snoops has titties... two of them!

Jim,
this is great,
I ICQ'd her and lets plan somethign for August,
it's been a while,,,,,
I missed good ole days to shoot some shit...
Serge need golden nuggets?

Boss Hawg and PR rock....tons of info and some hard working people over there!

Jimmyslits not matter what a stripper says....there is no sex in the champagne room!

What you think the going rate on webmaster traffic is ...per click??per CPM?? or per signed up webmaster??? I will throw out data if other sites will as well :))
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No, most of them won't....

as for what you charge sponsors-
I vote to charge the most for GOOD traffic and
give it free to sponsors if the resource has lousy traffic
Serge need golden nuggets?

Can I just say how impressed I am with Sharky's Pato Banton reference?

I've been a huge Pato fan, good one Sharky.

I ain't a playa, I just crush alot...

D$ Click inside and go to the asshole section, great stuff!

Serge
Sometime in august is good. We don't have anything going on until the end.

Vickie is away with her daughter for a few days but...when she gets back, I will have her stop in and say hi.
Jim Everybody's Favorite Sponsor

BossHawg, perclick varies between $1.00 & 1.50
Hooper Call in and get your site reviewed on MaxCashLive tonight!!

Sharky, thanks for the invite, but...
I got tix on Elton John Aida tonite,
I can't break it
(spam control will be put on auto delete,
don't even think about it, folks! ;-))
Serge Call in and get your site reviewed on MaxCashLive tonight!!

Serge, the correct answer can be found by counting the commas no???;-}}}
KK Call in and get your site reviewed on MaxCashLive tonight!!

Oh.. In case you need the info.. here it is:-)))

#### MAXCASHLIVE TONIGHT! ####
Thursday July 19, 2001

TIME: 8-10PM Eastern
http://www.maxcashlive.com

TOPIC: Call-in/ Site Reviews
GUESTS: All our callers:-))

It's time for another call-in show! Tonight all of our listeners can call in to have their site reviewed by yours truly, Sharky:-)) I'll do my best to be honest, fair and offer advice! If anyone would like to join me as a site reviewer, just let me know! It's sure to be a fun & informative show.
Maybe Jimmyslits will prank call another helpless webmaster and get them to spill the beans!

Be sure to tune in at http://www.maxcashlive.com . You can log in our chat via our Java interface or IRC at:
server: forums.maxcash.com
port: 7000
room: #maxcashlive

See you at 8PM Eastern Time

sharky Call in and get your site reviewed on MaxCashLive tonight!!

LINK IS UP :o)

Got some new shit coming soon from PR and with the new DB in place we can track all ad spots and are quite happy with the results thus far.

Thanks for the recommendation and I may just send them back to ya :) We got a full house on PR advertising right now so it may be time to adjust the rates according to the traffic and impressions per spot. Some spots are outperforming while others are underperforming :))

What you think the going rate on webmaster traffic is ...per click??per CPM?? or per signed up webmaster??? I will throw out data if other sites will as well :))

Last comment: Serge is Correct..Tom at TNB is the SHIZNIT when it comes to helping newbies:
http://www.topniche.com/booster/message.cgi

BossHawg PornResource - Resource Stylin!

Serge -

Will you join us in the MaxCashLIve Chatroom tonight? I am going to be reviewing sites of webmasters who call in. Heck, You can call in and have Oprano reviewed.. lol..

sharky Call in and get your site reviewed on MaxCashLive tonight!!

BTW, Mark,
your answer is INCORRECT also
;-)))

Serge:

34,476,872,432/17,238,216 is 2/1 and the other numbers were 1/2...

take your calculator and get amazed why
;-))
Serge need golden nuggets?

BossHawg,
it's ok, I didn't wanna make a big deal about it,
but since I learned that your traffic is one of the best
webmaster's traffic out there-
I'll take every hit you can send
;-)))

Sponsors,
and I'll share "da secret"
BossHawg is "da shit"
and his webmaster's traffic is "da gold"

grab it!

you'll thank us one day....

Serge need golden nuggets?

Brujah & Bosshawg -

There are Tons of webmasters here in Tampa, And growing!!

Just give me a little notice about one of the gatherings and we'll make it. It's tough to get away during the week, but if you make it on the weekend we'll certainly be able to make it! It's a nice 4 hour drive.. but heck.. plane tickets are $70 round trip:-))

sharky Call in and get your site reviewed on MaxCashLive tonight!!

JIm...Mark...I bet you old YNOT guys are on ICQ and viist in groups!
;-))

pleasure to see you again, bud!

yeap, that was a day to remember in Daytona....

your first swim in the ocean with 2 sharks!
;-)))
Serge PornResource - Resource Stylin!

FUCK ME Serge...When I switched to the new DB I switched index files and forgot to put your link on the new one..will be on top of the Other Resources Section in 1 minute :))

BossHawg PornResource - Resource Stylin!

BossHawg,
I know about your site and your traffic as much as you do!
;_))

I even know few things you don't
;_))

I rec'd you to few sponsors with big ears, you'll hear from them
;-)))

BTW,
do you know thta we have a link to you on the front page and you have zilch back to us????

;-))

Serge PornResource - Resource Stylin!

Brujah....next time we throw a local South Florida gathering why dont stop by. Same goes for you Sharky :)

Timbo has no problem driving over from the Tampa area I believe to join the fun!

BossHawg PornResource - Resource Stylin!

WF, 10$mln views are priceless! Yours is breathtaking.

Brujah do be do be do...

Sharky, How many webmasters are in Tampa ? Quite a few it looks like !
Brujah do be do be do...

Don't all resources already make stats available to their advertisers (impressions and CTR)?

Brujah do be do be do...

Serge:

34,476,872,432/17,238,216 is 2/1 and the other numbers were 1/2...

Rather than upgrading my piss status, will you take me swimming in Daytona again?? I miss seeing your hairy chest (and Bangwangs hairy back...lol)

Real Player:

Microsoft must be kicking your ass royally in the plug-in wars if you have to resort to posting on adult webmaster chat boards... In my experience, those that have to call themselves a 'Player' aren't... then again, I'm just a redneck sheep fucker so what do I know... ;^Ð

~Mark
XXXPhoto do be do be do...

Serge...No need to join the rukas on seeing who has the bigger dick stats wise.

All my sponsors since I have released the database version of PR will have access to their stats (banner impressions and click thrus) from advertising at PornResource and can measure there dollars that way :))

How much is a webmaster click worth?? that is the ultimate question.

Would a sponsor want their banner viewed 5,000 times with 1 click or viewed a 1,000 times with 5 clicks??

What is more important to a sponsor, clicks or impressions?? speak now or forever hold your peace :))

BossHawg PornResource - Stats? You want Stats?? No Thanks :)

"Do not throw the pearls before swine"

than we went for a kosher bacon sandwich.
Serge , $44 per sing up which changed the world.
Thu, 19 Jul 2001 04:02:45 - IP: 12.89.182.171 - Post # 4448
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hmm, I could rearrange some of the words in there and get --

Sing to the swine wearing pearls...

or

Jesus said a bacon sandwich changed the world...

Just a little something to ponder..
KK $44 per sing up which changed the world.

Edd,
what me and Evans learned on our first day in the shule was:
"....and Jesus said:
"Do not throw the pearls before swine"

than we went for a kosher bacon sandwich.
Serge $44 per sing up which changed the world.

Real Player - Thanks for pointing out the error of my sorely misguided ways! I can't believe I've been such a feckless dolt! Wow! All I have to to is smoke some kine bud a'la Dr. Dre, carnally know a attractive member of the opposite sex and WHAM!!! I'm a top-shelf Dolomitesque Super-Player like you, with more cash and free time than the Donald! Who would have thought that's all there was to it! Here I so stupidly thought you had to run your business in a mature, professional manner and deal with customers in a professional and businesslike fashion in order to succeed.... But NO!! All I have to do is get high and Fuck! YEAH!!! Serge, I hate to say this, but I QUIT!!

Does anyone think I need to explain sarcasm to this shitstain or was my rant good enough?

;)
Edd born under a bad sign....

ThrobX,
spilling the beans is my business
;-)))
Serge Unique approach from a pussy whose BRAIN is bigger than some biggest needle dicks!

John Bennet,
you are always in my thoughts and my prayers....
Serge $44 per sing up which changed the world.

Just to clarify Serge's post below about adultresourcesites.com, it's actually Adult Content News (http://www.adultcontentnews.com/) and Adult Income News (http://www.adultincomenews.com/) that will be making traffic stats available to current and prospective advertisers, starting on or about August 1.

Thanks for spilling the beans, Serge. ;D
ThrobX Upsells? Affiliate programs? Yeah, we got that.

Star -
You'll love Tampa, AND your new home:-)

AndyA... sending the invoice shortly.

sharky Call in and get your site reviewed on MaxCashLive tonight!!

"What's a Player. Well, its pretty simple. Work smart, work hard, get laid and I mean by an attractive person"

Well that remark pretty well confirms the anon is male, young, and not too bright. What does getting laid have to do with running a sucessful business??

Edd, thank you for confirming my spelling :) You get three brownies points and a box of.....well I cant say here...LOL

Bestat The Anime and Adult comic specialists

Jim!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought you never ask!

can Vickie show her face here???

I think the last time she did was on YNOT
;_))

we'll have a few weeks free in August,
let's BBQ again like we did last time and lose our $$$ to the indians!
;-))

CE rocks!
Serge Unique approach from a pussy whose BRAIN is bigger than some biggest needle dicks!

jaYMan,

Damn that phone convo post was funny as shit...

Star welcome to Tampa.... Sharky is a great host....

speaking of Sharky, my fax is 813.637.8454
Andy A YourPaysite.com

KK,
let's get the dates via ICQ,
we don't need doping "realBrickLayers"
crashing on our party and stealing our vodka!]
;-))
Serge Unique approach from a pussy whose BRAIN is bigger than some biggest needle dicks!

So Serge, this is where you now hang your hat. Well, I have it bookmarked and will stop in from time to time to see how you are doing.

Good friends in this business are hard to find.

By the way…Vickie keeps asking when you are coming to visit again. The pool is now heated and she likes to keep it at 90 degrees.

Jim Serges favorite site :)

Meanwhile....

2 sites decided to put counters and
measure their traffic for sponsors to see:

1) TopNiche
2) AdultResourceSites.com

Sponsors,
you'll thank us one day....

Serge Unique approach from a pussy whose BRAIN is bigger than some biggest needle dicks!

"I going to smoke some chronic."

That's another important lesson, if you're a Real Player, you don't need to follow the accepted rules of grammar. After all, laws meant to be broked.
ThrobX Real Players find their content here.

LOL Serge business is business, even tho I like you --

give me some dates for the trip, I'm seriously thinking of coming up there --
KK Gramma Knows Best!

Sharky Im starting to get nervous! Its such a big and FAR move. I think its going to be great in Tampa though. Im really looking forward to it and hanging around with you and Crystal.
Star Gramma Knows Best!

KK,
do you really take John over me????

smart, he is a money bag, not me!

KK,
obviously you know where the sceletons are hidden,
I better quit while I am ahead.

quick question:
what would it take for you to join us in NY at the end of September for Russian Nite Club trip?

I can give you personal tour of the city.

Serge $44 per sing up which changed the world.

Ah thanks everyone.

I've never felt so special.

I only did this to see what I thought was true. You people have nothing better to do.

I do. I going to smoke some chronic.

Star - answer to What's a Player. Well, its pretty simple. Work smart, work hard, get laid and I mean by an attractive person, blow up dolls don't count Serge, and make the $$$.

ITs as simple as that.

Have fun spending your days pissing them away.

Don't Hate The Player, Hate the Game.
A Real Player Call in and get your site reviewed on MaxCashLive tonight!!

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