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Jack....thanks for the response. May I suggest "Special pricing" before dumping the customer to a competitor? Seems like that would be a smarter marketing move than handing over a good customer and does not require 20 people....just a better newsletter.

Webfather DialerQueen, when exactly do you send MONEY to webmasters
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:16:33 208.63.245.165 Post #: 3800


so,
so far,
you say you:
1) 200 countries,
2) foreight language tors
3) recurrs
4) cap at $200
but........

Serge DialerQueen, when exactly do you send MONEY to webmasters
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:16:22 12.89.182.163 Post #: 3799


Can I send Japanese surfers to a Japanese text page or Spanish Surfers to a spanish page!
el pres ProfitPlantation. Start making money while you sleep
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:16:19 62.37.160.32 Post #: 3798


By the way, we don't deduct from our webmasters for chargebacks.
In the 900 scenario, AT&T pays only 45 days after the end of the month. ProfitPlantation factors the money and pays the webmaster every two weeks, regardless of chargebacks and credits.

DialerQueen ProfitPlantation. Start making money while you sleep
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:15:55 63.90.87.78 Post #: 3797


Serge,

We take care of charge backs by capping every surfer at $200/day charge.

you should be so lucky to get someone to charge $200 / day on their phone bill.
DialerQueen ProfitPlantation. If you have a paysite....
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:13:50 63.90.87.78 Post #: 3796


ElPres,

Any country that makes money, we support.
When you look at a ProfitPlantation revenue report such as http://www.profitplantation.com/detailed_foreign_report.html you can see we go to extremes to provide you with an exact breakdown of your traffic.
DialerQueen ProfitPlantation. If you have a paysite....
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:12:16 63.90.87.78 Post #: 3795


$2000 tel bill are bitch to collect,
AT&T can't get $112 bill from my g/f without fight!
;-))

Serge DialerQueen, is there any cut off time?
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:11:30 12.89.182.163 Post #: 3794


ok back to the movie posts for just a min. I just woke up lol
I remember Apocalypse now My dad made me watch it. I thought it was a pretty good flick.

Star Gramma Knows Best!
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:10:09 216.222.4.221 Post #: 3793


You don't have to switch to profitplantation completely. Dialers can compliment your billing.

If you have a CC tour page, you might want to add a link to the dialer page for "no credit card" people.

If you have an "access denied" page, you definitely want to pop up a dialer page and make money on that surfer.

Also, Credit Card companies reject %95 of foreign countries. You are losing all that MONEY.
DialerQueen ProfitPlantation. If you have a paysite....
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:09:33 63.90.87.78 Post #: 3792


Hi Dialer Queen

What languages do you offer, and to what countries.
el pres Yale, how OTHER pay sites can benefit from your dialers?
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:09:20 62.37.160.32 Post #: 3791


ok, I see that reccurs are no probelm, but still...

if I have XYZ paysite, how can I take the biggest advantage of your dialers?
Serge Yale, how OTHER pay sites can benefit from your dialers?
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:08:57 12.89.182.163 Post #: 3790


WF,

More often than not, we never get a response. Like most things, you only hear about things when people are really upset. How many times does a person talk about receiving GOOD service as opposed to BAD service? Maybe it would be best to do multiple followups but I don't have a staff of 20-30 people that I can delegate stuff like that too.

Average retention? Depending on our sites, anywhere from 2.5-6 months.

Jack AVN called us "The Anime & Adult Comic specialists...". Find out why!
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:08:23 192.75.116.16 Post #: 3789




If you want to stick around don't do scummy things...


Andy A YourPaysite.com
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:07:40 65.32.189.26 Post #: 3788


Serge,

Because the dialer carries a PIN which is dedicated to the affiliate webmaster, every time a visitor logs into our sites, the referring webmaster gets paid.

Surfers love our sites. We keep them coming back by constantly updating and adding new content. We've been doing this for so long - we know how it's done.
DialerQueen ProfitPlantation. Users are yours
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:06:40 63.90.87.78 Post #: 3787


still this doesn't answer my question.....


Serge Yale, how OTHER pay sites can benefit from your dialers?
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:06:12 12.89.182.163 Post #: 3786


Dialer Queen....what about recurrings with future calls? Do you pay on this?

Let me ask JoeE if it is ok to ask this question? :-))

Webfather YourPaysite.com
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:05:48 208.63.245.165 Post #: 3785




Ok I'm back from lunch;-) YourPaysite.com is a 50/50 program
(soon to be 60/40 AND per signup + some amazing front ends (end Spam) couldn't resist

I'll tell you what, it has never even occurred to me to try and spam the member database and send them to other sites..... YPS has been around since 96' too so you can imagine... it's so scummy.....
I guess that's why I've been around since 96'


Damn this business never ceases to amaze me
Andy A YourPaysite.com
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:04:46 65.32.189.26 Post #: 3784


Good point Ulfei,
collectin on $2000 phone bill can be a bitch!
Serge Yale, how OTHER pay sites can benefit from your dialers?
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:04:39 12.89.182.163 Post #: 3783


When traffic comes into ProfitPlantation it gets automatically sorted based on the originating country. No other program has a billing solution for over 200 countries.
Our traffic is sorted to a dedicated dialer page, in some cases, in the local language.
The automatic ip lookup (among others) maximizes hits. No country flags, no “click here for…..” The user is being routed to the best billing solution per his country immediately.
Bottom line – Every hit counts!!!

DialerQueen ProfitPlantation. Every Click Counts
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:04:36 63.90.87.78 Post #: 3782


Posed by JoeE in ref to 50/50 programs:

There are some really shady 50/50 programs out there.
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Ulfie....this is true as they have NO MOTIVE to keep them renewing and it is time for them to be exposed. Looks like the scammers are now in
control. But that is about to change!
Webfather

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More shit! Calling ALL "sharedprograms" BS..We use some and we don't manage any.. Am I getting ripped off, or maybe I am not watching my traffic?

Don't think so... Wanna do a test? Webdad has been jealous of me since
his lovely wife was nice to me;-)))))
joee, Approved BY MEAT,Aga, Serge and Webdad!
Tue Jul 17 13:02:58 2001 - 12.27.150.246 - message #152788

I could understand a newsletter trying to get surfers to join "another" proggy, but I dont see the reason to run off a paying customer....
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dantheman, like I keep saying.....don't send ANYTHING to paying customers. How many folks belong to more than ONE adult site?
Webfather

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How many paysites do you have Webdad? ;-))))
How many negative or positive d-bases do you have? ;-))))

What makes YOU qualified to say this?



Serge- 2 can play the game;-))) I go like you..to highest bidder;-)))
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Gee JoeE....look like I hit a nerver. lol

This is funny!!

And what makes me qualified??

C'mon should be able to figure this out!! ;-)))))

Webfather Yale, how OTHER pay sites can benefit from your dialers?
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:03:57 208.63.245.165 Post #: 3781


????????
Serge Yale, how OTHER pay sites can benefit from your dialers?
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:03:43 12.89.182.163 Post #: 3780


Is there a cutoff time like 20 minutes maximum? What are the average per minute charges that the surfer will get hit with? Personally, I've never used dialers because I don't want people running up $2000 phone bills by accessing my sites. If they are implemented in a way that will avoid that I may give them a try.


Ulfie Yale, what about reccurs, how does it work?
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:03:14 208.40.151.247 Post #: 3779


???
;-)
Serge Yale, what about reccurs, how does it work?
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:02:14 12.89.182.163 Post #: 3778


Serge,

We support termination points for over 200 countries, which is not something every other program can claim.
Also, we are constantly on the lookout for better paying termination points and will use someone else's terminatin point if they will pay a higer rate.
DialerQueen ProfitPlantation = get paid for every country
Tue, 17 Jul - 14:00:05 63.90.87.78 Post #: 3777


yeah, but what makes your dialers different from the others?

This is NOT exactly pioneering concept anymore...
Serge Yale, we need MORE details!
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:58:26 12.89.182.163 Post #: 3776


Throb, get in touch with me!

Serge, thanks for having me. As you know Creedit Cards are no longer the premium billing solution for most of the planet. and that's where we come in.
To make a long post short, we provide a billing solution for all that creditcardless traffic, which accounts for well over %65 of the traffic out there.
DialerQueen ProfitPlantation = Dialer dollars
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:56:11 63.90.87.78 Post #: 3775


MikeAI,
OUR sponsors DO pay and have no debts!

and this is ALL I care about...
OUR sponsors!
;-))
Serge Yale, the podium is yours!
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:54:35 12.89.182.163 Post #: 3774


Great!
than please share like you do with your mother-
WHY anybody should give them a try?
Serge Yale, the podium is yours!
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:53:04 12.89.182.163 Post #: 3773


We then email them as a followup asking the reasons as to why they quit and invite them to join a competetors site.
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Why not wait for a response BEFORE asking them to join a competitors site?

btw.....what is YOUR average retention?

TIA!

Webfather Great content....
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:52:23 208.63.245.165 Post #: 3772




Serge seems that this boat is getting crowded - a few more ICQs about debts being owed.

I am all ears for the dialer program, we can talk about people who don't pay debts off later.
Mike AI Great content....
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:52:18 66.21.171.41 Post #: 3771


Serge,

What are you talking about, guests, we're practically family.


DialerQueen ProfitPlantation.com - Get paid for every hit
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:50:52 63.90.87.78 Post #: 3770


Serge,

Be sure to remind your friend Yale to list Profit Plantation here...

http://www.adultincomenews.com/

;DDD
ThrobX List your proggie here, get targeted traffic.
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:50:47 63.52.232.116 Post #: 3769


Yale,
please tell us everythign we ever wanted to know about dialers!
Serge Yale, the podium is yours!
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:50:28 12.89.182.163 Post #: 3768


Ok, truce for now :-)) We will resume later :-)

Guest speaker coming in..behave MikeAI!
Lee Noga CyberErotica - $40/HardCrank, how gay is your traffic?
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:50:07 65.35.53.35 Post #: 3767


What do you think of 50/50 programs where they send members a newsletter TRYING to get them to SWITCH to another program??

Is this just innovative shaving or are webmasters AGAIN getting fucked up the ass??
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Webfather,
this is called
good old motherfucking
and whoever does it is a mothefucking scum on the earth.
Serge , ProfitPlantation
Tue, 17 Jul 2001 08:58:28 - IP: 12.89.182.31 - Post # 3683
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Let's see how many of the 50/50 program operators want to talk about this.

Webfather
Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:36:20 - IP: 208.63.245.165 - Post # 3715
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As our programs are all 60/40 partnerships, we don't bother our paying customers UNTIL they quit. We then email them as a followup asking the reasons as to why they quit and invite them to join a competetors site. Since they've already quit, there's no harm in trying to make one last sale.
As for keeping their emails for future spamming, that's something we just don't do. It will only lead to pissing off your affiliates who in turn provide a good chunk of our business.
As the saying goes, we don't like to shit where we eat.
Jack AVN called us "The Anime & Adult Comic specialists...". Find out why!
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:49:53 192.75.116.16 Post #: 3766


MikeAI,
you are not alone in that boat,
can we start making "me too!" list AFTER Yale's show is over?
;-)))
Serge we shall overcome one day.... ;-)))
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:48:44 12.89.182.163 Post #: 3765




Sorry Serge, my accounting people are getting on ME. IT seems that everyone else has been on time and paying for there services, while some people feel they do not have to pay.

I am hoping JoeE and I can work it out like men, and friends, this way I do not have to turn it over to my attorney and collections people.

I have faith in JoeE, JB and CEN to do the right thing... ( especially since its is all documented in e-mails, and I keep all of my e-mails)
Mike AI The best processor around - great through puts AND THEY PAY!! WHAT a shock!!
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:46:07 66.21.171.41 Post #: 3764


MikeAI,
did you have to bring the past due bills 15 mins before we have guests?


Serge The best processor around - great through puts AND THEY PAY!! WHAT a shock!!
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:40:30 12.89.182.163 Post #: 3763


JoeE, I know you are out there lurking, you need to get in touch with me vie e-mail or phone to settle up on a past due bill.

Please contact me ASAP.

thanks


Mike AI The best processor around - great through puts AND THEY PAY!! WHAT a shock!!
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:37:46 66.21.171.41 Post #: 3762


Lee, you have 27 mins to share your morning oral delights,
after Yale comes in
to share her wisdom about dialers,
I won't have time for you
;_))
Serge Evidence Eraser for the an easy $40 in your pocket.
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:25:52 12.89.182.3 Post #: 3761


Note to staff: Ban Lee's IP

Lee Noga
*********************

Lee,
how much will you pay me for a button letting you to delete your own stupid posts????

Imagine you looking smart all the time?
;-))
Serge Evidence Eraser for the an easy $40 in your pocket.
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:23:16 12.89.182.3 Post #: 3760


Lee, if you are 45,
what do you take orally in the morning to maintain yourself in the top spiritual shape?

I bet you don't take Vitamins!
Serge if it's a NICHE Site- It's in there!!!!!!
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:20:36 12.89.182.3 Post #: 3759




HAHA Lee when I think talented, intelligent, mover and shaker, future of this business - your name does not come to mind either...

Of course you name does not come to mind but in very few circumstanced... one day I will fill you in on them Admiral!


No IP bans here - you are always welcomed... This is an open forum.


Mike AI Make extra cash by helping perverts not get caught!
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:19:14 66.21.171.41 Post #: 3758


Thank-you Mike AI, we love you too! You have paid me the highest of honors. When I think of squeaky clean, funny how your name does not come to mind :-))

ZINGER! WHAMMO! POW!!

Note to staff: Ban Lee's IP





Lee Noga At 45, who gives a shit? Howard Stern your my hero! I can take the heat
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:16:19 65.35.53.35 Post #: 3757


Dammit Jim, I thought we went through this and you weren't going to see pornoman anymore.

Slut.


JMM midgets r us
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:16:08 4.34.164.23 Post #: 3756


Webdad,

So I take it you don't like 50/50 ??:)
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I did not say that. Matter of fact I still get a weekly check from a 50/50 proggy that I stopped sending traffic to in 1999 and a monthly check from one I have not sent traffic to since 1997. Actually the first was was a 75/25 program.

Few on the market are of that caliber cuz most now are too busy FUCKING webmasters.



Webfather We pay the bucks at pornmegabucks!
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:15:42 208.63.245.165 Post #: 3755


Webdad,

So I take it you don't like 50/50 ??:)

thanks

sextoyking We pay the bucks at pornmegabucks!
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:10:53 216.99.199.147 Post #: 3754



Lee, I have held back my opinion of your slander website. While I have dissapointingly only made it up there a few times, I think the very nature of the board is harmful for this indsutry. To be run by someone who has been around, and who considers herself a "leader" and "Playetter" of the industy makes it even sader.

I have to give you some credit, at least you are not going to the boards and posting " Hey, XXXXX - come see what people are saying about you here..."

It is my opinion it is the lowest common denominator influence working again, and you should shut it down - or modify it so it is not just one pile of crap.

I also tend to think that there are not many people on the board, rather you and a few mischief makers trying to make it appear lively.

If you ever find advertisers, I will express my displeasure with them, just like I did Fay on Dusty's board. Of course I cannot see anyone associating with the board.

I still have yet to see any REAL dirt on FM, or CE... we all know he has some... only get a weak comment about a pop-up console...

I would be embarassed by your board, but alas your ethics have never been to high... only your ego.


Mike AI Make extra cash by helping perverts not get caught!
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:10:47 66.21.171.41 Post #: 3753


Lee - Nope, my eyes aren't blue. I've been told they're pretty before, but Pornoman is such a sweet talker I don't believe him anymore...

Diamond Jim Click here please
Tue, 17 Jul - 13:03:51 24.177.208.229 Post #: 3752


Damn!

I am realllllly spelling bad today.....I need more sleep!

btw Serge.....Benihana was named Americas most popular restaurant by Restaurant and Institutions Magazine. :-))

Webfather CyberErotica, love me? Love me not? Click here you moron if your wondering :-)
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:58:15 208.63.245.165 Post #: 3751


Diamond Jim, you the one with pretty blue eyes?

I am rumour Guru :-)

Lee Noga CyberErotica, love me? Love me not? Click here you moron if your wondering :-)
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:57:10 65.35.53.35 Post #: 3750


ANOUNCEMENT:
==============

at 2pm Eastern,
we'll be joined by Yael from Profit Plantation to answer your questions about this new and exciting revenue option converting foreign money into US dollars!

Let's fight US Trade defecit TOGETHER and answer the question of
"What can you do for your country!"
;-))))

Serge Evidence Eraser for the an easy $40 in your pocket.
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:56:36 12.89.182.3 Post #: 3749


What is the exact status of busty amateurs? I have a woman that submits several sites a day to me to review that still have BA banners on them. When you click on them you go to a page that has no way to join but does have a members entrance. This is living proof that webmasters get dumber every day.


Ulfie No scammers allowed
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:53:58 208.40.151.247 Post #: 3748


Ulfie brings up another point...recurring programs have to be extra careful about the feeds they have in their member areas. Any feed company that has upsells to another paysite gets the boot.

I strongly encourage anybody that is going to send to a recurring program to JOIN the site they are advertising for. That few bucks investment will pay off in lost misery...

Diamond Jim No scammers allowed
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:51:24 24.177.208.229 Post #: 3747


Did people really lose their recurrings?
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Brad, did you notice I was one of the few to even raise this issue and I have nothing at stake? I think this prooves just how stupid webmasters are getting. They are getting fucked in the ass and since they are making more than they would at Burger King.....they are not even UPSET!

MORONS!

Webfather Somebody had to do it? Scare me to stop :-)
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:49:20 208.63.245.165 Post #: 3746



"...they have NO MOTIVE to keep them renewing and it is time for them to be exposed"
=======================================================

WebDaddy,

You starting to sound like a "fucked Master" :-)) How can we not like changing things and do a little exposure...

PS--Luke Ford will write aboout you now that you are controversial :-)


Lee Noga Somebody had to do it? Scare me to stop :-)
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:48:54 65.35.53.35 Post #: 3745


Newbies get burned the worst on these programs because they buy into the notion that they are going to make a fortune off each signup. After they realize it rarely happens they have wasted a lot of time and traffic but are a little wiser.


Ulfie You have seen the photos, now see the videos
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:48:18 208.40.151.247 Post #: 3744


Speaking of partner programs, did anyone ever get the stroy with Busty Amateurs? Did people really lose their recurrings?

Just curious.
Brad Shaw You have seen the photos, now see the videos
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:46:06 65.65.84.81 Post #: 3743


Shok.....I won't take delievery on my fisrt one till next month so I know what you know. :-))



Webfather cell phone cash
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:44:49 208.63.245.165 Post #: 3742


There are some really shady 50/50 programs out there.
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Ulfie....this is true as they have NO MOTIVE to keep them renewing and it is time for them to be exposed. Looks like the scammers are now in control. But that is about to change!

Webfather cell phone cash
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:43:18 208.63.245.165 Post #: 3741


Webfather, how does the T-Bird handle? I'm curious because it's supposed to be on the same frame, same engine/transmission, dash layout as the Lincoln LS and Jag S-Type. My wife has an LS and loves it. I think its great but the steering is a bit too sensitive and I dont like the brakes. But all in all handles and feels alot like a 5 series bmw. The sound system is excellent. I was really surprised Lincoln built a car that can compete with the European models so well. Did your T-birds come with 2 tops?
Shok cell phone cash
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:40:57 64.6.39.81 Post #: 3740


DJ.....Did you notice how quiet the 50/50 operators got? They think silence is golden. I guess they are taking marketing tipe from Gary Condin!!
***************

Tmorrow,
1 pm eastern,
we gonna have the 27 cream of the crop of 50/50 site operators
making the point why they are right
people to trust and Webfathers numbers are NOT!
;-)))

Should be a fun filled afternoon.
;-))


Serge Evidence Eraser for the an easy $40 in your pocket.
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:40:44 12.89.182.3 Post #: 3739


There are some really shady 50/50 programs out there. I signed up for one recently and I violated one of my own rules in doing so. I didn't join the site before promoting it. I sent a bunch of joins and NONE recurred. When I finally joined the site I found out why. All the video feeds were free ones with upsells, the content was lame and there wasn't much of it, etc. Basically, encourage the surfer to cancel and then start e-mailing them about this great site we found. Good deal for the site owner, they made 1.75 and they got the e-mail address that they can spam forever. Bad deal for the webmaster since they make $1.77 for someone that actually did whip out the credit card. It's not a bad business model if you are an effective spammer.




Ulfie Ulfie, check this out!
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:39:11 208.40.151.247 Post #: 3738


Did Oyster Daddy just crap a pearl wisdom, Serge? I think so!
***********************

I'll nominate the one he posted yesterday instead:

"Serge, stop humping FM's leg"!
;-)))


Serge Ulfie, check this out!
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:36:47 12.89.182.3 Post #: 3737


Lee Noga , Somebody had to get the dirt out in this business, ya rather Luke Ford do it?

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Lee, for the old times sake,
will you come here and post when you have a dirt on me at your place???
;-)))
Serge Ulfie, check this out!
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:35:11 12.89.182.3 Post #: 3736


Webfather, any recurring program that spams their active member database with offers to join OTHER paysites is a scam, plain and simple. Can you name names?

Diamond Jim , When only the best will do...
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DJ.....Did you notice how quiet the 50/50 operators got? They think silence is golden. I guess they are taking marketing tipe from Gary Condin!!

I think it would be easier to list the programs that don't do that. Glad you are one of them!

But yes, I agree, they are SCUMBUCKETS and I suggest ANYONE involved in a 50/50 program do their own fucken homework.

:-))

Webfather Ulfie, check this out!
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:33:57 208.63.245.165 Post #: 3735


Serge, when is the newbie board coming? I'm really curious to see how many true newbies are lurking around here.


Ulfie
**********

Ulfie,
1)I don't know when our newbie board is coming on

2)as for true newbie lurkers here:

please go to
http://www.topniche.com/booster/message.cgi

and do the search for the word OPRANO.

we only got link on them this morning but they talk about what they read here looong before we exchanged links.

I'm sure that when our sponsors
start getting lousy returns on invetments-
I'll be the first one to know
;-))


Serge Ulfie, check this out!
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:32:10 12.89.182.3 Post #: 3734


Glad to see I'm not the only movie buff around these parts!

Ulfie - we're "tidying" things up with the "behind the scenes" code on this board before we "turn on" the newbies board - this way we don't have to do twice the work... but it IS coming soon - perhaps even before the weekend! Stay Tuned!
Edd Charlie don't surf!
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:29:48 63.100.104.10 Post #: 3733


You know what THE most important thing is once a salesman makes the sale?? SHUT UP and take the order!!
========================================

Did Oyster Daddy just crap a pearl wisdom, Serge? I think so!

Kudo's WebFather!
Lee Noga Somebody had to get the dirt out in this business, ya rather Luke Ford do it?
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:27:29 65.35.53.35 Post #: 3732


Webfather, any recurring program that spams their active member database with offers to join OTHER paysites is a scam, plain and simple. Can you name names?

Diamond Jim , When only the best will do...
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yeah!

shoot the shit, Webdad!

Serge if it's a NICHE Site- It's in there!!!!!!
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:26:56 12.89.182.3 Post #: 3731


"welcome to the gumbo!"

Is THAT what Axel Rose is saying in that Guns N Roses song?

ThrobX $15k in content to be given away Monday July 23! Enter now! Yasnooze... er nevermind
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:26:47 63.52.219.18 Post #: 3730


Apocolypse Now was a great movie. Can't wait for the new release.

Serge, when is the newbie board coming? I'm really curious to see how many true newbies are lurking around here.


Ulfie You're Just an Errand Boy
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:25:28 208.40.151.247 Post #: 3729


WebFather T-Bird is a sweet ride what year are you interested in?
********************************

I bought three 2002 T-Birds.

Wade....YGM! :-)

Webfather You're Just an Errand Boy
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:23:19 208.63.245.165 Post #: 3728


A Must See.....thanks for the tip (not getting out of this cave enough)

OldFold You're Just an Errand Boy
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:21:43 64.220.84.86 Post #: 3727


Webfather, any recurring program that spams their active member database with offers to join OTHER paysites is a scam, plain and simple. Can you name names?

Diamond Jim When only the best will do...
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:20:58 24.177.208.229 Post #: 3726


Webfather, please email me back, thanks ;-)
Wade YourPaysite.com
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:16:31 203.109.202.16 Post #: 3725



Serge,

I am very happy to be here;-)))
Andy A YourPaysite.com
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:12:11 65.32.189.26 Post #: 3724


I was asking around the office here who remember apocalypse now.

no one did...damn youngsters!!
dantheman ball go far
Tue, 17 Jul - 12:11:53 208.220.30.72 Post #: 3723


Andy,
welcome to the gumbo!
;-))
Serge XXX-Hosting-XXX, the first! The bravest!
Tue, 17 Jul - 11:56:45 12.89.182.3 Post #: 3722


Edd, thanks, i havent heard that, you are right. THAT will be the summer block buster
:)
dantheman I love the smell of naplom in the morning
Tue, 17 Jul - 11:52:40 208.220.30.72 Post #: 3721




Long time listener first time poster;-)
What's up gang!!

WebFather T-Bird is a sweet ride what year are you interested in?

I have to spend my day going after an advertiser who jacked us for $5k UGH!! What a nightmare...
Andy A YourPaysite.com
Tue, 17 Jul - 11:50:22 65.32.189.26 Post #: 3720


Ok, movie buffs - I hate to go all off topic and stuff with so much great discussion here, but I just wanted to toss out this link - If you thought the "Planet of the Apes" remake was the movie to see this summer - I've got some news for you..... http://www.miramax.com/apocalypsenow/

22 years after the fact we get the 203 Minute EPIC Coppola MEANT for it to be, but couldn't release!

Movie Gods be PRAISED! Ok, back to work....

Edd The Horror..... The Horror.....
Tue, 17 Jul - 11:48:24 63.100.104.10 Post #: 3719


Caution! Marketing moron at work.

On July 10th a guy contacted ME about one of the new T-Birds. I emailed him right back and asked how much?

TODAY, I got his response:

"I am in the early stages of showing this car around. So, all offers are being considered. Thanks for your interest."

This is a week after I already purchased one. Plus he is SOOOO coy that he still can't name a price.

MORON!

Webfather Got Checks???
Tue, 17 Jul - 11:34:15 208.63.245.165 Post #: 3718


do you need their e-mails?
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Yes, please!
Thank you. ;-)


bpj Got Checks???
Tue, 17 Jul - 11:20:36 12.5.154.142 Post #: 3717


As for sponsors on http://www.fuckedmaster.com we have not asked for any.
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Lee,
can you beleive we haven't asked a single soul for ads as well???

from my sign making days I know:
if they ask you for a sign -
the price is $100

if you ask them to order sign -
the price is $50


and we like $100
;_))

we don't ask anybody either.
;))

Serge No dead bodies or suffocating birdies there! ;-)))
Tue, 17 Jul - 11:19:49 12.89.182.3 Post #: 3716


How many folks belong to more than ONE adult site?
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damn good question
************************************

Just one example how sponsors fuck themselves up thier own asses and how it cost everyone money.

It is called OVER MARKETING!!

You know what THE most important thing is once a salesman makes the sale?? SHUT UP and take the order!!

Something this business has yet to learn!

Webfather because your business depends on them!
Tue, 17 Jul - 11:11:08 208.63.245.165 Post #: 3715


Forest,
let it go,
it ain't worth the time and an effort, really
;-0))
Serge because your business depends on them!
Tue, 17 Jul - 11:10:57 12.89.182.3 Post #: 3714


Serge, I did not write that post by MsLeeFuckingNoga", its a "cross dresser" LOL. My skin is so thick it provides me shade, you can leave the post, who cares.

As for sponsors on http://www.fuckedmaster.com we have not asked for any. We will not allow just any sponsor, big cartel top 2% will be discriminated against, we will work with mid level and new companies only :-)

Big cartel need to save their money to sue me for slander [rofl].

Lee Noga Who just ANON'd me, and you worry about Fuckmaster, sheesh
Tue, 17 Jul - 11:09:37 65.35.53.35 Post #: 3713


How many folks belong to more than ONE adult site?
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damn good question
dantheman No dead bodies or suffocating birdies there! ;-)))
Tue, 17 Jul - 11:06:00 208.220.30.72 Post #: 3712


BPJ,
in this case let me give your 2 folks I know with predominantly women traffic,
CJ and Webmistress
(Joe Holler's wife)

do you need their e-mails?
Serge No dead bodies or suffocating birdies there! ;-)))
Tue, 17 Jul - 11:05:53 12.89.182.3 Post #: 3711


"...and when you drop dead,
I'll come to your funeral
wearing a RED dress"
;-)))

(---Moonstruck)

Serge , No dead bodies or suffocating birdies there! ;-)))
Tue, 17 Jul 2001 11:02:44 - IP: 12.89.182.3 - Post
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Yea but Serge will u wear Pumps??
Forest phone4free.com
Tue, 17 Jul - 11:05:32 216.201.0.34 Post #: 3710


Hey Mojo, good to see you posting again.

Mojo,John. whats the deal with cell phone sutff. fill me in :)


Slavdogg phone4free.com
Tue, 17 Jul - 11:03:51 63.202.22.247 Post #: 3709


Ok is it just me or is Netpond blocking certain url's?
Censorship or protecting its borders?

anyone else haveing problems posting certain links?
Forest
Tue Jul 17 10:43:32 2001 - 216.201.0.34 - message #152764
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This will probibly get my IP address blocked...

Good thing I have 200 ip's to choose from..
=)~~~
Tue Jul 17 10:43:32 2001 - 216.201.0.34 - message #152764
Forest No dead bodies or suffocating birdies there! ;-)))
Tue, 17 Jul - 11:03:22 216.201.0.34 Post #: 3708


Forest,
you think anybody realy cares?

AGA is set for life,
Meat....

I personally like AGA's story
;-)))

Netpond, best wishes to you,
"...and when you drop dead,
I'll come to your funeral
wearing a RED dress"
;-)))

(---Moonstruck)

Serge No dead bodies or suffocating birdies there! ;-)))
Tue, 17 Jul - 11:02:44 12.89.182.3 Post #: 3707


Serge....

As the owner of deadbodies.com I give you permission to use this term. :-))


Webfather No dead bodies or suffocating birdies there! ;-)))
Tue, 17 Jul - 10:57:54 208.63.245.165 Post #: 3706


BPJ,
how do your programs work with adult traffic?
Serge
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Because our demographics are completely different than adult (adult = 95% MALE; PWeb= 90% FEMALE), conversions on adult traffic isn't too hot. So, if you have traffic that is predominately WOMEN, you will be astounded by the conversions! Also, some people with targetted domain traffic (like psychic/horoscope/tarot-related domains), are doing better than 1:100 consistantly!
BUT, you never know..... our mouse-trap is very good and the "curiosity factor" many times is enough to convert some adult traffic, so it is worth trying because we are a pay-per-signup proggy!


bpj No dead bodies or suffocating birdies there! ;-)))
Tue, 17 Jul - 10:57:00 12.5.154.142 Post #: 3705


hahahhaha! ;-)))
Serge No dead bodies or suffocating birdies there! ;-)))
Tue, 17 Jul - 10:53:30 12.89.182.3 Post #: 3704


yea serge.
i think that is the beginning of the end for netpond.
censorship from the word GO
Forest because your business depends on them!
Tue, 17 Jul - 10:52:23 216.201.0.34 Post #: 3703


Forest,
they can block old, shmold, etc...

They can't block ALL domains we have between us to use as redirects
;-))

let me ask you a 64,000 question:
are they worth my time?

if they trying to do what soviets tryed unsucessfully to keep their people inside their borders-
it's up to them,
soviet experiment didn't work too well
;-)))

good work, meat and aga,
close the cage and watch the birdie die from stuffed air
;-)))
Serge because your business depends on them!
Tue, 17 Jul - 10:50:24 12.89.182.3 Post #: 3702


I could understand a newsletter trying to get surfers to join "another" proggy, but I dont see the reason to run off a paying customer....
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dantheman, like I keep saying.....don't send ANYTHING to paying customers. How many folks belong to more than ONE adult site?


Webfather ball go far
Tue, 17 Jul - 10:49:15 208.63.245.165 Post #: 3701