MikeAI...
Had a convo with one of the "Cocktail" waitresses at the hard rock...
she spent last week in New Orleans...(just off bourbon)
said she can't handle it...too much partyin....of course, that cracked me up.


OldFold Stayed AheadOf RB ((o:

However, I have no idea what this has anything to do with "terrorists, ordinary people and Afghanistan." Are you under the impression that Afghanistan is a former Soviet republic? Is that what they taught you in your Russian school?

Petr
*******************

Petr,
if you use the same due dilligence here as you use at your Every Cent,
I take my words back,
you are a fool, young cretin,
and you will die as a fool.

I wasted enough time on you,
it's MikeFold Time now!
;-)))
Serge

Petr why are you getting bent out of shape with Serge?

He did not make a personal attack on you at all.

Serge simply pointed an example of concept I was speaking about. It just happened to be a country you are from.


He was pointing out that YOUR people did rise up against Communism in a very tough time. And while they were slaughtered, it did effect the world, and eventually helped sow the seeds of the end of communism in Eastern Europe.


So then you turn it into a personal battle? What gives? Ran out of ideas? Or did you learn how to fight "Afgany" style?


Mike AI All the news that is fit to print, and some....

Oprano around the world:
http://www.almisbar.com/scripts/ata/urltrs.dll?lang=eng&options=abbr&options=translit&urlTarget=http%3A%2F%2Foprano.com%2Fmsgboard&atatheme=
DAMNMAN ZSERVANT waits while ZMASTER bates

The news is always hard to waatch when you're on the road and flying..
))o;

I was catching up, saw a couple responses to Aly, but couldn't find Aly's posts??
Whats Up with that Sergey??

Hi Petr....you're right serge, he does know that market well.


OldFold Stayed AheadOf RB ((o:

Serge, exactly. In 1968 the ordinary Czech people wanted to remove the Communist leaders but because they didn't have enough power to do that (and because the Western world didn't help to bring democracy here to my country back then), the ordinary people failed. Thanks for proving my words.

However, I have no idea what this has anything to do with "terrorists, ordinary people and Afghanistan." Are you under the impression that Afghanistan is a former Soviet republic? Is that what they taught you in your Russian school?

Petr

Petr,
and for my ruining my business overnite,
do you recall the day when you announced that you are no longer associated with adult sites, because
you run sucessful software company?
http://www.netpond.com/msgboard/index.php?start=136100

what brought you back to deal with "fudge packing"?

money hunger or genuine love for the "craft"?
Serge

Monk DON'T BLAME CANADA..... and don't bomb us!!
Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:46:34 - IP: 156.34.178.141 - Post # 32226
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Times have changed, our kids are getting worse..
They won't obey their parents, they just want to fart and curse!
Should we blame the Government? Or Blame Society?
Or should we blame the images on TV?

No, Blame Canada! Blame Canada!
With all their beady little eyes, their flapping head so full of lies!
Blame Canada! Blame Canada!
We need to form a full assault, It's Canada's Fault!

Don't blame me, for my son Stan..
He saw the darn cartoon, and now he's off to join the clan!
And my boy Eric once had my picture on his shelf..
But now when he sees me, he tells me to fuck myself!

Well? Blame Canada! Blame Canada!
It seems that everything's gone wrong since Canada came along..
Blame Canada! Blame Canada!
They're not even a real country anyway.

My son could've been a doctor or a lawyer, rich and true..
Instead he burned up like a piggy on a Barbecue.
Should we blame the matches? Should we blame the fire?
Or the Doctors who allowed him to expire?

Heck no, Blame Canada! Blame Canada!
With their hockey hullabaloo, and that bitch Anne Murray, too!
Blame Canada! Shame on Canada..
The smut we must stop.. the trash we must smash..
The laugher and fun.. must all be undone..
We must blame them.. and cause a fuss..
before somebody thinks of blaming us!
-----------------------


Every indication so far points to an accident. There could be something more to it and that shouldn't be ignored as a possibility. Either way condolonces go to the families of the passengers and crew!



TheEnforcer Blame Canada!! :>)))

Serge doesn't run anything because he ruined his business over night...
*****************************

Petr,
you think running Oprano is not business????

http://pusi.com is NOT business,
it's PERSONAL,
while Oprano IS business,
and if you don't see the difference,
you only confirm once again my earlier statement that not all kids are as sharp as cj...




Serge, why is it that EVERYTIME when you have no arguments or anything to say to the current topic, you have to come up with personal insults??? Do all Russians do that??
**********************************

Petr,
if you knew the history of your country,
you would recall than Russians leveled uprising in Chekoslovakia in 1968 with tanks.

That's what Russians do,
and being from Russia,
I just follow the route Russians did successfully in 1968.

"russky vs checks" record is in MY favor.


Serge

Serge doesn't run anything because he ruined his business over night...

Serge, why is it that EVERYTIME when you have no arguments or anything to say to the current topic, you have to come up with personal insults??? Do all Russians do that??

Petr

Well, we stood up to the government and they backed down. No different than Afghanista.
************************

Gary, the smile should have been bigger
;-)))
Serge

If you have nothing clever to bring into this discussion, then shut up.

Petr
****************

Petr,
your remark just confirmed my earlier one:
not ALL young kids are as sharp as Tukhman.
Serge

incidentally,
Petr runs site
http://everycent.com and KNOWS Gay niche market like only few others I know...
Serge

Its true, here in Canada, about 8 years ago, the Socialist government in Ontario wanted to put a tax on the dirt used to bury the dead. Well, we stood up to the government and they backed down. No different than Afghanista.

:)
Gary 5 cent text links

Serge,

I know history of my country, don't worry. If you have nothing clever to bring into this discussion, then shut up.

Petr

Petr,
some wise guy posted on Oprano the other day,
"the difference between Oprano and other boards-
at Oprano one should know VERY WELL what he/she is talking about"

please make mental note of it.
Serge

Yes, in a perfect world. But usually ordinary people don't have enough power to remove their "leaders." Especially, when these leaders are oftenly supported in their tyranny by the "democratic world", as long as there is enough oil for the Western world.
_____________________

But Petr, all Nation and people have been oppresed. Yet over time, we have fought and throws the bonds of oppression off.

How was this done?? Did Kings just decide to turn over power?? Did dictators just retire??

It takes the force of the PEOPLE...

REalisiticly is it hard for the average person in Afganistan to stand up? OF course, but toether they control their future. IF they stand by why they let their country be ruined, they should not be pointing fingers at anyone who comes into the country to remove elements that are a threat to outside nations.


Mike AI

Petr,
I don'tt hink you know the history of your own country...
I probably weren't born yet in 1968 when ORDINARY people of Checkoslovakia went on the streets in the attempt to overthrow Communist Governemnt.

If you don't know the history of your own country,
WTF DO YOU KNOW????
Serge

"People of all nations have a duty to look out for their own nation and to make sure the gov't is looking out for their best interest."

Yes, in a perfect world. But usually ordinary people don't have enough power to remove their "leaders." Especially, when these leaders are oftenly supported in their tyranny by the "democratic world", as long as there is enough oil for the Western world.

Petr

Nepal princess has been killed in Helicopter crash...just off CNN...
Serge

Even with the WTC tragedies, more people die in car wrecks than plane crashes. Statistically, the plane is the safest mode of transportation.

Of course, I have a aunt that's been married to a Delta pilot for 40+ years so can fly free anywhere in the world and she's never been on a plane ;)


Peaches

But hey, what do I know?? I have never been to Afgansistan!


Mike AI
******************

kids....not everybody is as sharp as MarcDe...
;-)))
Serge

Mike AI, have you been to Afghanistan? Or you have all your "info" from books and newspapers? I was in Afghanistan six years ago. The ordinary people are happy if they don't starve to death. They don't really care about politics, they just want to SURVIVE. And all this misery is brought to them by a couple of fanatics who kill everyone who doesn't comply with their "rules".
___________________


No Petr I have not been to Afgansitan, nor do I have any plans on visiting. The point I made about the people being responsible for their governement applies to EVERY NATION in the world.

If the people are bullied by dictators, or mad men who then cause chaos on other innocent people - they should not be suprised when they are relatiated against. To stand back and claim ignorance is not good enough.

People of all nations have a duty to look out for their own nation and to make sure the gov't is looking out for their best interest.

That is why I mentioned the "innocent" Germans who were bombed during WWII.

Now while the United States does not intentionally target civilians, there will always be civilains lives lost - Hence why they call it WAR.

If the innocent, normal Afgans were concerned they would be chasing the Taliban out of their beighborhoods, and masques where they are hiding.

But hey, what do I know?? I have never been to Afgansistan!


Mike AI

mutt, of corse the one and only TNB Tom
http://www.topniche.com/booster/message.cgi

we ALWAYS look for joint ventures with our FRIENDS and collegues...

wait 'till you see what we are working on with GFY!
Serge

Mutt, sorry I misread your words.

Mike AI, have you been to Afghanistan? Or you have all your "info" from books and newspapers? I was in Afghanistan six years ago. The ordinary people are happy if they don't starve to death. They don't really care about politics, they just want to SURVIVE. And all this misery is brought to them by a couple of fanatics who kill everyone who doesn't comply with their "rules".

Afghanistan is a completely different country, a completely different world so different from the Western world. Different values, different live.

Petr

Serge who is Tom from UK? Newbie Booster Tom?

Pusi.com board will not tolerate evil-doers! We will root out all evil-doers and Hooper and Toson clones!
mutt

as for the AVS deal, i am looking for a partnership for a fairly large deal.


grimm

hey Al, thanks:)
grimm

BREAKING NEWS from CNN.com


-- A senior administration official tells CNN there are initial indications of an explosion aboard an American Airlines A300 in New York, but that the source is unknown.
Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com /AOL Keyword: CNN for the latest news.

grimm

i need anyone who runs a major AVS to contact me at

matt@fsn.net

I am looking for an AVS sponsor.
grimm

Whats the hold up on the pusi board anyways?
:-))))
voodooman
*****************

Voodoo,
http://pusi.com
is ALMOST there!
Serge

your grandfather was a tough guy.
Mine was a Communist. Bolshevik.

he did his best work at the race track.
mutt

Never knew one of my grandfathers, and the other was just a waste of skin, drunk.
voodooman Zmaster

mutt,
no sequals to Dusty's board....

do you know where one ends up licking pussy and tongue slips?

in the "shit creek"
;-))

deviate one step from the
"pusi topic" and posts gets deleted in a heart beat.

Tom monitors it (UK +5 hours)
I monitor it (0 hours)
Dig monitors it (CA -3 hours)
and if need be,
Corvo can do it from (+14 hours)

I expect pusi to outshine oprano, gfy and everything combined,
(unless we are the crowd which has nothing to add on the subject ;-))

nope, no "dustisms" there...

Serge

mutt,
if you talk about mine-
one grandfather has died in 1941 being a doctor and officer in the Red Army during the war,
refused the seat on the car, putting injured soldier in his place and blew his brains when his unit was surrendered, prefering death to capture by germans

Second one was a lawyer and leaving thru 1937 and up Stalin's "trials",
left scar on him thru his entire life.
Serge

Well said Mutt and Jessie.
I completely agree.

Amber Larry Flynt signs these checks

How are you going to stop the new board from becoming Dusty's Board The Sequel serge?


mutt

Sergei,

Whats the hold up on the pusi board anyways?
:-))))
voodooman Zmaster

Gary,
upcoming Pusi.com board will be tha answer to your prayers...
No IP,
no URL's
be whomever you wanna be,
just stick to one rule:
no shop talk and you'll do fine
################################

Very nice, I think i will be you.

LOL

Gary 5 cent text links

actually my grandfather was a bit of a lazy bum but i bet YOUR grandfathers were tough guys!
mutt

Mutt, I am with you and Jesse
Serge

i agree with Jessie. We can't let ourselves become desensitized to this, let these attacks become a part of our lives. Our grandfathers wouldnt have accepted it.
NYC is the world's most dynamic city to see it turned into a giant hamster cage should infuriate everyone.
mutt

I'm a very lonely person and just want to talk to someone. :)
Gary
****************

Gary,
upcoming Pusi.com board will be tha answer to your prayers...
No IP,
no URL's
be whomever you wanna be,
just stick to one rule:
no shop talk and you'll do fine
;-)))
Serge have you seen this new Oprano ad button?

:-)))

Serge, I agree, and fate can be a bitch sometimes.

Gary, Im lonely, Serge is lonely, one more lonely soul wont hurt.

voodooman Zmaster

Voodoo,
nobody lives forever...especially us, the single guys
;-)))
Serge have you seen this new Oprano ad button?

grimm,
I'm a New Yorker now living in Santo Domingo...alway felt confident flying that no terrorists cared about the DR...
Al

I'm a very lonely person and just want to talk to someone. :)
Gary 5 cent text links

I have a flight on the 21st. Whatever happens, happens I guess.

voodooman Zmaster

Gary,
would you rather talk to sKItz?
;-)))
Serge

DAMN YOU SERGE!!! LOL

This is the second time i respond to deleted posts and look like i'm talking to myself. :)
Gary 5 cent text links

im flying to cincinnati tomorrow morning. Fortunately, no terrorist cares about cincinnati:)
grimm

There has to be many others in the same situation.....


sharky
****************

Sharky,
John just informed me that he'll be flying with me to Vegas in January,
to finaly put faces together with faces,
thank GAFI Inc clients and visit his first trade show...


Serge

Gary, where have you got such a nutty idea?
Serge

Yes Aly, I will be taking shuttle flights from city to city until i get to vegas. May take a few days, but i'll get there.
Gary 5 cent text links

Horrible...

aside from the loss of lives.. one of the worse thigns that could come from this is people being afraid to fly.

My wife is one of them. she has never liked flying.. after Sept 11. she was set on never flying again... I was finally able to convince her to fly with me to Vegas in January.. and now this. terrorism or no terrorism she won't fly for a while now... There has to be many others in the same situation.....


sharky Basic Site Automation

I have a TV next to my computer that i keep on CNBC all day. I wasn't really paying attention, the market just opened, i was typing an email. I looked over and saw a bunch of smoking and finally noticed they were talking about a plane crash. Accident or no accident, this is a really bad thing for so many reasons. Besides the obvious loss of life, how long will it be before we have no airlines left.
Gary 5 cent text links

Crazy news to wake up to...


KC

My biggest FEAR is that we get used to this sort of tragedy. I don’t want to. Most of the middle east is used to extreme warfare and people dying everyday. Europe had to get used to the plague. Bosnia, Croatia, Ethiopia, etc; all of these countries had to get used to devastating events. I can only hope that we all continue to be outraged by this (even if it is only an accident).

Let's make a concerted effort not to become desensitized.

Jesse D

Jesse

Such tragedy.


Blondy

The little black box will hopefully provide us with some evidence as to what really happend.
Stingers, and other portable missiles would show up on radar, not to mention set off an alarm in the cockpit that there was a threat, and the pilot would have time to radio that situation to ground control. SO, time will tell.
voodooman Zmaster

Jesse,
I was in Turkey on Sept 11th...
lack of info about relatives, friends,
was the worst.

I share your pain, as an american and new yorker
Serge

http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/11/12/khatami.interview/index.html
grimm

Mike AI,

Good Point.

Jesse D
Jesse

BREAKING NEWS from CNN.com


-- A senior administration official tells CNN there are initial indications of an explosion aboard an American Airlines A300 in New York, but that the source is unknown.
Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com /AOL Keyword: CNN for the latest news.
grimm

Anti-aircraft missile is certainly possible.

I just wonder why the plane was flying so low. All the witnesses said that they became very alert because the plane sounded so low.

Hmmmmmmm


Gary 5 cent text links

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/11/08/manpads/index_np.html

Grimm,
scarry shit
;-(((
Serge

Gary the idea that it was not a bomb because the flight was to low is flawed. This assumes the bombs trigger device was pressure sensitive. The bomb could be on another type of triggering device.

Another issue could be shoulder fired anti-aircraft missile.


Mike AI

Hmmm, bomb in luggage is possible, BUT, it seems plane was flying too low before explosion.

Hijacking is possible, but unlikely.

Accident is certainly possible, but if there was system problems, there probably would have been some communication between plane/tower.

Accidents happen, but not often.
Gary 5 cent text links

Serge – Not meaning to be crass, it is a figure of speech.
Jesse

Serge, I know and feel your pain.

We have all heard the stories, but here is one that is close to me. This is correspondance from a friend of mine: "It is a long story and a sad one. I am currently the President of a company located in the Wolrd Trade Center. We were on the 83rd floor of the first building hit. I lost 13 people in the attack and destruction of the Twin Towers. We have 37 people that work int he office. We are lucky that only 13 were in. We have spent the last 2 weeks helping out the families and trying to rebuild..."

I also went to Syracuse University and many of my friends went to New York to work. A couple were in the towers.

Jesse


Jesse

What good does it do to close the bridges and tunnels in NYC when a suspected terror attack takes place?
Is it to prevent someone from blowing them up or to keep people from coming into or leaving town?
You would think they would at least let people out of town. I would hate to be trapped in Midtown Manhattan knowing something was going on.
Zebra Insite Adult

mutt,

You are one of my favourite posters on this board, but as Jeff Foxworthy says....
If you want to bomb anything that moves.... then you might be a redneck.

j/k :o)

Monk DON'T BLAME CANADA..... and don't bomb us!!

fatbaby.... you know the lions are so bad, i dont think anyone would notice:)
grimm

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/11/08/manpads/index_np.html
grimm

Jesse, it was an accident...and this is not a matter for votes.

I don't mean to put you and your believes down,
not on those matters.
Serge

voodooman

we do know who the evil-doers are in this world. We know what this war is about and we know who supports it and who funds it and who cheers when Americans cry.


mutt

Each attempt to clarify
Serves only to confuse
And it feels just like a fracture
But it looks more like a bruise

And my mind can’t bear the weight
Of one more empty prepackaged story from you
And I’ve strained my eyes to blindness
Trying to find a point of view




Vick Lyrical Gangster ..... Hardly

Us Gov says the FBI are investigating the explosion - there definately WAS on but they don't know the cause yet
kitty Sexcontents

"I am still a New Yorker in heart..."
Serge

hahaha, Thats no lie, any Russian that turns down REAL russian vodka must not be russian anymore.
:-)))))

voodooman Zmaster

MikeAI, and gov's does exactly that-
closure of tunnels and bridges is a proof of that.
Serge

Well, my beliefs aren't based on intensive aviation knowledge. I have just never heard of an engine coming off a plane unless it was a non-accident.

My vote is still terrorist attack.
Jesse

mutt,

I agree with you to an extent, BUT, Who do you blame? Who do you MAYBE make false accusations to? Iraq? Afganastan? Libya?
I just think that our forces are already there, what should we do, fly more sorties? send in ground troops? etc...
Im all for an all out attack if someone is responsible for this latest news, but jumping the gun isnt going to remedy anything. Just my opinion.
voodooman Zmaster

After what has happened, I think we have to assume it is terrorists. It might not be, it could be a malfunction or something... but for now, I think gov't needs to investigate for bombs, etc...


Mike AI

Hey, I'm trying to give you a compliment, take it. I give very few.
Jesse
****************

Jesse, I am sorry, I am a bit "edgy" today,
I am still a New Yorker in heart...
Serge

Grimm,
LIFE itself is very dangerous state,
we all know how it ends...

I practically stopped worrying about it, since my will has been notarized.

little things which provide comfort to one's mind...
Serge

Guys, it might just be me...
and even though I am an Autralian,
I don't think that at this point in time it is very funny to joke about bombing anywhere except Afghanistan.

How do you know that someone you know wasn't on that plane?
kitty Sexcontents

Serge,

I believed I watched you and Colin play a few years back (or he gave me the chess transcripts). Colin is a GOOD player, you made him look ridiculous. Hey, I'm trying to give you a compliment, take it. I give very few.
Jesse

off Fox News...

few years ago when Engine fell of the airpalne in Chicago
(sorry, Jesse, hate to break your believes)
people on the ground heard explosion as well.
Serge

why does this shit always happen when i am supposed to fly either tht day or the next?
grimm

Jesse,
1) we never played chess
2) air plane specialists on TV and they just were quoted here,
do NOT support your believes.

glad to see you here, man!
Serge

If we are going to bomb any cities, i vote for Ann Arbor:)
----------------------

Grimm...please aim slightly north, like say Pontiac, and put the Lions out of their misery....

;-)

fatbaby

To answer the questions about possible bombs, etc...Ground crews are very vulnerable to infiltration.
Torone

Peaches, Zebra, VERY unsettling stuff you tell
;-((((
Serge

mike..security was rough on you in dallas:)
grimm

Sergie,

How are you? It has probably been a year. This is Jesse D (Delia).

From my days with Serge, I know there are two 100% sure things:

1 - Never play Serge in chess, you will lose.

2 - Engines don't fall of planes.

Jesse D


Jesse

voodooman u may be right.

But whether people want to admit it or not WE ARE AT WAR, with an enemy that hides in the shadow.

It takes months to determine the cause of air crashes. If you're at war unless it's readily apparent this was an accident you assume it's another attack and act accordingly, whatever that is.

i dunno

mutt

Serge,

Yeah, but they don't fall off planes.

Jesse
****************

Jesse,
the plane crash in Pennsylvania
had engine falling off the plane,
which MIGH give creadence to terrorist theory except...
in Penn 2 crash sites were 6 miles apart, not 4 blocks
Serge

Jesse,

According to the specialists on the news channels. Not stating my opinion, just what they have said.

They have said that those engines were designed to breakaway during a catastophic event, or major problems. If the engine shutdown quickly or ceased it could cause it to rip off the wing.
Stallion

this isnt't partisan because I wouldn't feel any better if Al Gore was in the White House now.

But i will tell you who I wish was in the White House now, Bob Dole. A man who has been battle tested.
mutt

FBI has just confirmed tht athere WAS an expolsion on that plane ...
more details to follow
kitty Sexcontents