Hmmm as I see it most of the shit happening in the world these years is mostly due to the fact that the state of Israel chooses not the cooperate with the Arab world.

I'm no pro-muslim AT ALL, infact I just voted for Pia Kjærsgaard at the national election in Denmark (very right wing), but until Israel acknowledge that they have to share their land with the Arabs there's going to be war. And it's just fuel for sick fucks like Bin Laden to mess up the world.

Religion is a bad thing. Religion is outdated.
Troels

Biking is good. I get some of my best ideas when I'm biking.
******************************

...and I get mine too!
;-))
Serge

Well being an Aussie I know sweet FA about US politics so feel free to correct me if (when lol) I am wrong,

But I think that when Bush first came into office a lot of people were really sceptical about him, his dfence policies and such. Especially when the China incident happened - ppl were really wuick to say "yeah we knew that'd happen - he's been in office for like a month and we have a potential war at hand"
Then that all calmed down, but S11 happened.
I get the 'vibe' from yanks that you are all pretty happy with the way he has gone about dealing with Bin Ladin, and perhaps that's why his popularity increased...but in all honesty I think ANYONE who was presdent at the time would have done the same.

we had sa similar thing happen here - an extremist group called 'one nation' won a landslide victory in a state election recently - and our PM got scared - so he decided to crack down on refugees (one of One Nation's Biggest policies) in order to swing their votes for upcoming national election.
Sure a lot of ppl liked his hardline stance - but the novelty wore off quickly and now he's more unpopular then ever.

I guess the point I am trying to make is that it is stupid and ignorant for ppl to believe that our leaders are doing anything that anyone one else in the same position wouldn't do.

Can you imagine ANY leader sitting back and taking shit from Bin Laden? I think not.

My 2 cents.

kitty Double penetration and more!!!!!

ahhh...the weather is nice for a change,
time to spunk the bike monkey,
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Biking is good. I get some of my best ideas when I'm biking.


Good Morning everyone
Cleo Cleo's Links

Dig,
"I don't know the particulars of the maxcash lawsuit, followed it very loosely "
That was during the Clinton reign, therefore it was Socialist/Democratic.
Torone

A year ago the Presidential race was a 50/50 split. Today the polls say Bush would get 60% of that vote. Ya know what that means??

It means that 10% of the Democrats woke up and figured it out!! For those 10%.....KUDOS!!


Webfather

ahhh...the weather is nice for a change,
time to spunk the bike monkey,
see ya!

gone with the wind,
gone, very gone,
Serge

Yes Serge,
I KNOW you will love it!

...especially the bit about...
hmm. no, actually you can wait to hear it !
wuahahahahahah

;)
kitty Double penetration and more!!!!!

Kitty,
me being an honarary memeber of AOL,
have some difficulties getting your interview
;-(((

I can't wait for the release!
Serge

Welcome back to the land of the living people!


kitty Double penetration and more!!!!!

i'm just bringing an extra pair of hands where i can :-)
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cj,
how would you better describe yourself:

1) good handywoman?

2) good with hand job?

LOL
;-)))
Serge

and "double penetration is really fun" is my favourite quote of all
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

damn I really really really have to get down under sometime next year ;)))))
SykkBoy Make some bank today!

mutt's idea, i'm just bringing an extra pair of hands where i can :-)

I just finished the first edit of the kitty interview and it sounds pretty good!!

there's a fews pearls, and "double penetration is really fun" is my favourite quote of all :-))))

cj (vaginator) sexhit - $70 free signups - all day, every day!

Again, GREAT interview Serge....keep 'em coming! :o)

GiGi :o)
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GiGi,
I have absolutelly NOTHING to do with Interviews, NADA!

it was cj's Idea!

we've been kibitzing on Sunday,
she suggested,
Mutt liked the idea and on Tuesday morning The First Issue was up and live!

Mutt, cj, SyKK,
they are the ones who deserve round of applauds, not me!

I am only a Preacher,
and only spread the word,
that's all I do
;-))


Ecclesiastes 1
1
The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.
2
Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.
3
What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?
4
One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh:

BUT THE EARTH ABIDETH FOR EVER.

Serge

chris killed the board!!
cj (vaginator) sexhit - $70 free signups - all day, every day!

Goodbye Twins.. Goodbye Expos..

Unbelievable!
chris/pornoman

Any members of the Oprano crew going to be in Vegas?



chris/pornoman

Okay sorry about that guys -
that's what happens when someone in the next room decides to use a cordless keyboard at the same time as you lol.

Scraed the absolute shit outta me I got to admit!
I finished typing then all of a sudden it just started erasing and then typing on its own !!!!

ROFLMAO!!
Anyway I was saying that CJ interviewed me for the first AUDIO oprano centerfold.
We had a lot of fun doing it and I'm sure you guys will have a lot of fun listening to it!!!


Kitty THIS is the future of internet porn !!!!!

Sorry I have been so quiet guys.
Today is the busiest day of my entire life!!!!
but I am pleased to say thet our live feeds are going online in just a few hours!!!
If you guys wanna have a look at it
just click the link below.
Apart form that I have a great day!
I have been flooded by content providers all keen as mustard about the new oprano content message board.

Also today:
Cj interviewed me for the firstw

Kitty odyssey..ccom..au

I'll be there...since I live in las Vegas anyways ;))) I'm also going to hit COMDEX, a few new things I'm eager to check out....

but will also be nice to catch up with people...

cj, can't wait til January...yeah, you guys made an amazing impression...although hard to miss a tableful of Aussies and I think everyone won too...and I'll still never forget that dude who remembered me from a band I was in and was singing my own words back to me...that was crazy...
SykkBoy Make some bank today!

i've always been partial to Helen Thomas of the Associated Press. Mmmmmmmmmmm........french kissing Helen
mutt

hooper, I'm not making it to this show, but will be there in january :-)
I haven't been in the states since June!! i'm really missing playing craps at the imperial palace :-)))

hey sykk, mike went back to the ip to play craps recently, and the dealer asked him where his crazy australian crew was!!!! I guess we left an impression huh?! LOL

cj (vaginator) sexhit - $70 free signups - all day, every day!

Hooper
I did adultdex last year and it was so slow that we left early as did alot of others.

Seems though more are attending this year.I am a short drive from LV so i will probably be heading over.


Moose This signup form is NEVER down ;-)

I think Ashley Banfield from MSNBC is hot but I like her MUCH better as a sandy blonde than the brown hair she has now!!


TheEnforcer Making Bank- $42 per trial signup on 110 sites!

yeah there are some really fine women working in news and sports. And it's hotter because they have to act like professionals. The librarian/schoolteacher fantasy thing.

hey pretty good turnout to this poll i put up early this evening.

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Oprano Aside, What's Your Favorite Resource Site?
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Netpond (5) 18.5%
TopNiche (4) 14.8%
Porn
Resource (5) 18.5%
YNOT/TAW (3) 11.1%
X-Biz (0) 0.0%
Setgo (6) 22.2%
Voltars
Newbies (4) 14.8%
Net
Surprise (0) 0.0%

Total votes: 27

if u haven't voted, please do http://www.opranoplus.com




mutt

So who's going to vegas???

Nick?
Moose?
Anthony?
CJ?
Nick?
Serge?
Dig?
Sykk?
Mutt?
Enforcer?
Gary?
RRRed?
Todd?
KK?
Ulfie?
Melody?
Peaches?
GiGi?
Mike AI?


WORK IT OUT!!! ;-)))
Hooper The Original Absolution.... Send Traffic.. Absolve Your Sins

damnit Moose, I clicked your link and went to sign up and I can't :(((

Anthony with a cheeseburger? no, never ;))) must have been a Wendy's Triple Cheeseburger with Biggie fries and Biggie RootBeer....lol

Enforcer, ah yes, Lupa the Brazilian transsexual hooker, she was quite the looker...and her friend who had the tits on her back, not much to look at but she sure was fun to dance with ;)))

SykkBoy Bubba's gone insane!

wooooaaah did nick just say ... 'bless you' ??????!!!!
cj (vaginator) sexhit - $70 free signups - all day, every day!

Ant got yer message not to long ago..you must of had a cheeseburger in your mouth because i couldnt under4stand the number you left ;-)

call me again tomorrow
Moose Apply here

mutt, ditto and especially a girl-girl shoot with that what's her name from Fox who was doing the onfield interviews....


SykkBoy Bubba's gone insane!

damn i'd like to get this hottie Deprise from ESPN naked. She should do Playboy before its too late.
mutt

Enforcer,
errr it was that story wasn't it?
Nick
Wed, 07 Nov 2001 01:07:59 - IP: 24.80.103.202 - Post # 30064
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Well.. I remeber something about midget transsexual hookers... but I won't say anymore!!

:>))



theEnforcer SykkBoy showed his pecker off today! Click here if you damn near or actually did lose your lunch!!

Sykk,
Bless you my son ;)
St.Nick The Church of the Later Day Thieves

Yup,I even enjoyed Depeche mode tunes ;))
Nick

Enforcer, shhhh, don't make me tell them about the saran wrap/cucmber/IcyHot incident ;)))

Nick? uh oh, now I gotta spill it...Nick goes to church every Sunday and helps little old ladies across the street and I even saw him pet a kitten once and he's never ever cheated at golf...

muhahahaha I am truly evil! ;)))
SykkBoy Bubba's gone insane!

Ohhh, and the lightsticks were for directing the planes in. =o)
Anthony

Enforcer,
errr it was that story wasn't it?
Nick

Enforcer,

Look,I told everyone at the time,Anthony and I were suffering from flu and had been drinking,and you know,there was music playing,the lights were low....

Nick

Dude it was nice...but dollars and US ones at that???try sex and travel ;))

Call me a "fucking thieving gypsy cunt" instead. ;))

That PR has made me fortunes.;))

Nick

Nick,

You should ask me sometime what he REALLY says about you and Anthony!! :>)))





TheEnforcer Get your links up now to make $100 per trial signup on Nov 25th!

Nick, no worries, just remember: small unmarked AMERICAN bills in a plain white envelope ;)))

cute? nah, that'll cost extra ;)))
SykkBoy Make some bank today!

ugh....i just spent half an hour trying to find that song Peaches. Nothing anywhere that matches those lyrics. This site would have done it
http://www.lyricfind.com but the damn lawyers have stopped them for now. I understand why they are freaked out by Napster et al but they are cockholsters supreme for stopping a service that 90% of people just want to find the words to or a title of a song. As if there was some big market for song lyrics out there. There's sheet music but people who buy sheet music are buying it for the musical notoation and the lyrics.

dig that was very funny your post about a page ago. The movie cliche thing.

let's get those third world factories turning out the Oprano Babydoll T's round the clock!!!

babydoll t? i didn't even know that was the name for them. Crop top? Belly shirt?
mutt

oh and re taxes in Canada,KK...

Canadians,ask your accountant about the benefits of having a co in barbados ;)
Nick

Oh the irony of someone living in Canada making that statement... ;-}}}}
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Shows how little you know. 40 years of liberal governments have damn near taxed us to death. I just finished doing 3 years worth of taxes. Better late then never i guess.


Gary 5 cent clicks, text links allowed

Sykkboy,
Just got in

(sorry I'm not about lately Serge,but working on some stuff...big announcement next week,hopefully ;)

Anthony told me to read your interview on:
http://www.opranoplus.com/

Appreciate the comments and the balls it took to fly in the face of popular opinion ;)

Thks mate.You know you are always welcome at my house or the hollowedout volcano.Appreciate it.Next time though play down the "nice" shit.Next I'll be cute.(shudder) ;)

Thought you could have photoshopped the pics though ;))
Nickatilynx (The Internet's No1 Crook (Alledgedly))

you can't argue with Generals in the US army though, EVER!

good lord, I can't even imagine the beat-down you would get for doing that...


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Tue, 06 Nov 2001 09:13:16 - IP: 66.74.13.9 - Post # 30003
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I'd rather piss off a 5 star general than a Master Gunnery Sergeant in the USMC!! NOBODY fuck with Master Gunnies!!

Here's a great link that will bring back memories of boot camp for any fellow jarhead out there!!

http://www.rleeermey.com/soundclips1.html

All i gotta say is if you ever want to know what Marine Corps boot camp is like Full Metal Jacket is dead fucking on.



TheEnforcer Get your links up now to make $100 per trial signup on Nov 25th!

:)
RRRED Wegcash

Nyc, democrats loose:((

damm..........
sextoyking

"Only thing i care about is who's gonna keep my taxes lower. "
--------------------

Oh the irony of someone living in Canada making that statement... ;-}}}}



KK no politics just payouts

/me agrees :)


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Yeah Dig, and you're pretty mainstream, everyone runs a porn site nowadays. ;)

My political views lean towards the Libertarian side as well. So will we ever see MikeAI running for President, Ulfie as VP, Dig for Secretary of Defense, and Todd for Head of Homeland Sex Toy Security on the Libertarian ticket? Would America support us? I doubt it.

My point is that what we do is easy fodder for politicians. Basically, your best politicians are people that have done nothing, stand for nothing, and say nothing. They get elected over and over again because what is there to criticize, they never did anything.

I'm done for tonight, Oprano needs a politics board, I'm sure a lot of people are bored to tears with tonights discussion even though I enjoyed it.


Ulfie

someone said libertarians aren't mainstream?

I myself am more libertarian than anything else..


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Who the hell owns 9001.com and where can I ram an ICBM up his rectum?

Libertarians not mainstream? Gee, that's funny, maybe that's why their ranks have tripled in the last three years.

Anyone else finding it impossible to get to ARS stats? I love the new program, just can't access the stats. No doubt my podunk internet access. They keep promising us new dixie cups.

As soon as we get the new stuff launched, I'll be back around to harass y'all. Have a good one.




Melody coming soon, to a monitor very near you

I don't know the particulars of the maxcash lawsuit, followed it very loosely :(


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Dig, who went after MaxCash with no basis, was that a Republican controlled agency?


Ulfie

This is from another board I frequent - I knew if the answer was out there, my good ol' porn friends would know it :) Any ideas?

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I need some help from the 30-somethings and 40-somethings on the board. I remember a song from my teenage years that I cannot locate, and I can't recall the name of the song or the artist. There really is a legitimate purpose for me asking this. The tune of the song was moderately fast in tempo and resembles the last half of Don McLean's "American Pie" with heavy acoustic piano and acoustic guitar. Some of the words are "Those days of candy apple red ... Cruising with my baby ... Going for a Homerun but getting thrown out at the plate, oh Give me back those days." It was a summertime release, released in the late 70s or maybe 1980. I know this is a longshot, but does this song ring a bell to anyone? Anyone? Anyone? BUELLER?







Peaches

nobody's going to come right out and be an advocate for pornography Ulfie, you have to look at the legislation that they propose.

Very few demo's advocate or originate any legislation that infringes on freedom of expression, or your freedom to read anything you like or say anything you like short of shouting FIRE in a crowded theater.

Republicans propose so many bills that do exactly that, that it seems to me as if it's their number one prioriy to control the domestic population. They scare me shitless.


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Ulfie

Very true, the left and the right will use you as a bitch if it suits them. Only thing i care about is who's gonna keep my taxes lower.


Gary Send traffic, get paid, what a concept

Dig, absolute power corrupts absolutely and a balance of power is a good thing. It keeps both sides in check. You are living in a fantasy land if you think either the democrats or republicans are your friends. You are a pornographer, hence, an easy target. Your democrat "friends" will sacrifice you in a heartbeat to gain 1 vote. My Republican friends would do the same. Don't ever forget that.


Ulfie

including me ;)


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Ulfie, very true.. one thing that I desperately wish the libertarians would realize though, since I live in the same country as they do, is that their agenda is much better served thru the party they seem to hate most :)

The more conservative the administration in office, the more intrusive they're going to be into your private life and your right to do what you like short of damaging other citizens.

How did the conservatives manage to convince everyone otherwise?

Let me ask you this: who is it that wants to curtail your sexual freedoms, stifle academic liberty and put the church in charge of the state? It sure as hell isn't the demon liberals.

Who wants greater power for the government to eavesdrop and ransack your personal possessions? Again, not those wimpy tree hugging liberals.

Who wants to seize your personal possessions for the slightest of legal infractions? NOT the liberals.

In fact, whether you're conservative or liberal, the ACLU has long been our best friend when it comes to fighting off intrusive government. AND IT'S NOT A SECRET!! I personally don't care if you're liberal, convervative or martian. Don't defend your viewpoint just because you feel like I'm attacking you. All I want is for people to read up and have solid reasons for their viewpoints. If you don't bother to educate yourself as to the actual fine print of the policies you advocate, you're a sucker for every demogogue that comes along...




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Hiya Oprano!

I was over at TNB and saw a link (thanks serge!) to the interview with Sykkboy!!

Awesome interview guys! Sykk! You are one interesting dude! (and cute too...hehe)

You said:
"That was my strength at NetPond, was ideas, fresh perspective. My weakness? Probably following through with those ideas ;)."

You don't KNOW how much I can related to that...hahahaha :P

Again, GREAT interview Serge....keep 'em coming! :o)

GiGi :o)
GiGi CashQuest2 - Stay tuned! :o)

You are correct Dig about one thing, I am Libertarian...

:-)
Mike AI

Dig, you have a good point there about conservatives being libertarian. Same goes for a lot of people that "think" they are liberals though. ;) Until the Libertarians can get out from under the "drug party" label they will never succeed. Ma and Pa America don't care about the rights of pot smokers and definately won't support them.


Ulfie

Serge,

I love sex, and all things to do with it, but I truly love politics, I guess I am wierd that way:)

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Todd, than I DEFIB+NATELLY see you on
Pusi Board!

I'll get you all excited and give you a few tips...
how would you like to hear in bed..

Oh, baby, raise my taxes, harder, harder, harder , aaaahhhhhh!
;-)))
Serge we erase the evidence, you make money...

also, half the people here and everywhere who think they're conservative are actually libertarians.. they're just not aware of the difference.


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Mike,

I will let you have the last comment on bush ok.. I will wait till summer, and lay some good facts out for you bro.
sextoyking

As one who was present at a supposed "town hall" meeting with Dick Gephardt in 1996 and was subsequently tossed out for asking questions he didn't want to hear I can't say I would be all that thrilled to hear the phrase "Speaker Gephardt" anytime soon.


Ulfie

in person he is a teddy bear, almost debilitatingly shy
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of course he is, Mike, he's a bizarre freak. He has reason to be shy.

but this is exactly what I'm talking about, you don't need me to tell you about Rush Limbaugh, just go to any search engine and start reading, I can't give you any information that you shouldn't have already gotten for yourself.

Do you know the rarely spoken on TV nickname of the conservative wing in political circles? One that will send any conservative into a red rage?

'The Stupid Party'.


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Ahhh Todd see, I think Little Bush is avoiding the same mistake as his daddy. See he IS working on the economy and trying to jump start it.

Unlike his dad, who got tricked by democrates in RAISING taxs, and Bush got hammered for it. The democrates got him out on a branch then sawed it off. Little Bush was there and will not make the same mistake!


Mike AI Cash creater!

Mike,

I have always loved sex, it's just I truly love politics, I have since I was about 7-8 years old. parents were always big in the local party, went to some national conventions, etc. and when I heard some speakers talking, I fell in love. Politics is gold and it makes the world go round bro:)
sextoyking

Look at Rush Limbaugh. He's been thoroughly discredited by nearly every reputable media outlet.
_________________

Which reputable media outlets are these?? The same liberal bastions that Rush comments on and puts pressure on?



He has a bizarre personal life,
_______________

Bizarre compaired to who?? Liberal Democrats - like the Kennedys? Bill Clinton?? I could go on forever....



insults pre-teenage girls looks on the air
______________________

hahaha who cares??


and lies, lies, lies til he's blue in the face
_________________

I think it is the media outlets above that lie.



and he's still revered by the right wingers.
_________________

Rush has done a lot of the conservative movement. I have met him, and in person he is a teddy bear, almost debilitatingly shy. While I do not agree with everything he says ( maybe 65%), I think he is entertaining - and his audience over the decade has proven that.

What is most exciting is how worked up Rush gets the liberals - right Dig??

HAHAHA



Mike AI Cash creater!

Serge,

I love sex, and all things to do with it, but I truly love politics, I guess I am wierd that way:)

Mike,
we will see how the redistricting goes, it is going to help both parties forsure.
I won't battle you right now on Bush ok, I will show a little respect, since we have people in harms way, but be sure, the subject will come up in a few months. All I can say is it will almost be a repeat of daddy's admin. Did good for the war effort, etc. Never got it, when it came to the economy or even the people:)

but all is love and good, until next summer:)
sextoyking

Oh and Todd, as much as I love politics - it is NEVER better then sex.

I think you must be doing something wrong! ;-)


Mike AI Cash creater!

Todd, you can never win a political discussion, I have finally taken that lesson to heart.

Look at Rush Limbaugh. He's been thoroughly discredited by nearly every reputable media outlet. He has a bizarre personal life, insults pre-teenage girls looks on the air, and lies, lies, lies til he's blue in the face and he's still revered by the right wingers.

If you can't even get them to see the problems with Limbaugh, how can you persuade them of the error of their ways with the relatively subtle and tricky ways of macro-politics?

NO I'm not going to get into a political piss, one shot and OUT! ;)


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Todd hardly flustered... only impact it has on me is in redistricting. Which may hurt some national Republican races in those states. Other wise, I hope NJ and Virginia enjoy their new Govs.

Bush is doing a fantastic job, the new situation we find ourselves in has helped realign the country to look to important issues - and start cutting down crap like political correctness.

If Bush starts to campaign for some people, things will stay strong.

Liberals have been minimalized, and shown to be the out-of-touch, wackos they are. See how Berekley is doing now?


Mike AI

but seriously, if you wanna start a political section, say in jan or feb, I will help out.
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Todd, if
Pussy Board becomes flop-
I guess "politics" will be a way to go to replace it
;-)))

I can't envision anybody who'd rather talk politics instead of
pussy, licks, strap-ons, toys etc, etc, etc
;-))

if I am wrong-
than we are all sick, sick, sick!
;-)))
Serge we erase the evidence, you make money...

All I can say, as I have said before, Politics to me sometimes is alot better then sex!!!

sextoyking

Oh Mike, don't get all flustered, we will make sure we have a great few month debate before next Nov2002.

You are correct, Mid term elections do usually help the other party that are not in the white house
I.E. We will have a new speaker next year!!! Speaker Gephart, I love that tone!!
sextoyking

Big Dog,
tomorrow at 9 am the NEW Oprano board is starting up...

I promise you, after 9 am Eastern, it will be ALL BUSINESS!
;-)))
Serge enough toilet paper for even Democrats!

lots of shit and not enough toilet paper, for the common man or women, we will make sure everyone gets some paper:))
sextoyking

Flim Flam Florio... haha

I would say the Democrates who were elected are hardly liberals.

Off year elections usually always benefit the party not in the white house.


Mike AI

Serge,

hehehe, but seriously, if you wanna start a political section, say in jan or feb, I will help out.

2002 Mid term cycle is gonna be a good one:)

sextoyking

Todd,
so you know...
the previous Governor of NJ, Mr. Florio, one termer,
is remembered by the people for charging taxes on...
TOILET PAPER!

Democrat's rule means only ONE thing:

lots of shit and not enough toilet paper!
Serge

Man...This is just too political tonight.

have to wait till tomorrow to talk biz.
Big Dog Big Dog's Get $45!!

Todd,
that is it,
I had enough...

in 2 weeks flat, we are starting,
"Oprano Pick on Todd's Liberalism" chat board
;-)))
Serge

Correction,

my higher power, thanks for taking back those 2 states after 8 years of republican control:)

sextoyking

Todd,
are you envoking God in politics????

God bless democrats????

"What would Jesus say"?

(---Al Gore)
Serge (WEGCASH.COM, which is really Join4FREE on steroids, viagra, and)

God bless the democrats!!!


Democrats Win Gov. Races in Va., NJ
sextoyking

Dig,
that is a perl, and the truth!!
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the best thing I learned from the military is that I am EXPENDABLE and the maximum effective range of an excuse
is 0 meters :)
sextoyking

Serge,

hear hear, I agree 1000%, israel is a great ally, and I will always support the brothers!!
When you live your whole life surrounded by war, terror, and the enemy, you gotta be tough!!
--------------------------------
well.....
all I can say is that Israeli army, the army of 5,000,000 nation, is surrounded by 100,000,000 arab enemies and...
in 1967 it was the call from Moscow to Washington to stop Israelies when they were 40 miles from Damascus

in 1973, Yom Kippur War,
Egyptian tank Army got itself surrounded in the desert,
even though it had advantage of first strike upon the country,
where Golda Meir wasn't prepared for war....
and now our airline industry models airline security after Isrealies as well.

I am glad we have strong allies in Middle East.
sextoyking

Serge, no doubt the Israeli Army is no joke and not to be trifled with lightly.. the Arabs learned that the hard way in 1967


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One thing that I respected about the mental conditioning we went thru is that I never felt like I lost my identity as an individual, so to speak, I just learned that being an individual doesn't mean you don't have responsibility to the group.

the best thing I learned from the military is that I am EXPENDABLE and the maximum effective range of an excuse is 0 meters :)

the bad thing about being NG is that you're RA for the all the hard shit, then you gotta bail when it starts to turn into a more or less regular job.. I should have done 4 years but I can't complain, I got what I needed from the experience.


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You guys should ask my biz partner Fletch if you see him about his mos. Syops are very mentally hardcore people. Rick did basic, then Airborne at Ft. Benning, then Stationed at FT Bragg, NC. Base in itself is hardcore. Rick's job, after the enemy was captured, time to interegate by any means possible. You wouldn't think this of rick if you have met him, cool, laid back type of a person:)
sextoyking

Israeli army is modeled after the US army.


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well.....
all I can say is that Israeli army, the army of 5,000,000 nation, is surrounded by 100,000,000 arab enemies and...
in 1967 it was the call from Moscow to Washington to stop Israelies when they were 40 miles from Damascus

in 1973, Yom Kippur War,
Egyptian tank Army got itself surrounded in the desert,
even though it had advantage of first strike upon the country,
where Golda Meir wasn't prepared for war....
and now our airline industry models airline security after Isrealies as well.

I am glad we have strong allies in Middle East.
Serge we erase the evidence, you make money...

Dig,

hey bro, you aren't a no go puke, please:) anyone who served, no matter Special Forces, 13b, or army mess hall, are all good to go in my book, everyone supports every one:)) Serge correct, brainwashing to a degree is important in the military, they have to break you first, then build you up.. True story on the Israel military!!
sextoyking

I should let Todd talk about this shit, I was just a NoGo puke, what do I know anyway?? ;)


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you can't argue with Generals in the US army though, EVER!

good lord, I can't even imagine the beat-down you would get for doing that...


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yeah serge, I'm actually a bit familiar with that. The Eastern Bloc mentality was to follow orders no matter what, that 'robot' mentality you talked about.

In the US Army they talk a LOT about 'initiative' which is basically just getting as creative as you need to get to carry out the mission AND being able to adapt to a rapidly changing environment by any means necessary. Israeli army is modeled after the US army.


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Israeli army is somewhat different
(I hope Yishai will shed more light on the subject in his interview,
as ALL Israelies go thru military service,
men and women alike)

Solder can ask ANY question and even argue with Generals
(One becomes a general rather early in Israeli army,
40 years young generals is not something unheard of)
but....when in combat,
that's where "pissing" with superiors ends.

That's what I heard from my israeli friends...
Serge we erase the evidence, you make money...