"I'm willing to "die" for my cause"

would this be Oprano jihad ??

;-))


Cybrglide EG V3.0 coming coming coming ...... really !!

Colin, here is the math problem I need solving...

The board A has 163,000 posts on it and averages 80 posts a day

The board B has 29000 posts and averages 350 posts a day

Q 1) when those boards have equal numbers of posts

Q 2) when the most stupidest sponsor realises than the board with the most interest is a better value than the one which has most paid posters posting?

TIA!
Serge

Serge, yes, if I can .. try me.
Colin The TGP2 Bucks Guy.

Colin, may I bother you with your expertise in math and physics?

I have a question...
Serge

Colin,
I'll be here 'till the last breath....
as I said to Jeff the other day,
I'm willing to "die" for my cause
;-)))

Long live Oprano!

mashallah, mashallah, mashallah!
Serge

Serge,

This and then I have to go again ...
From the NHC:

"..Michelle strengthens to category 4 hurricane... Maximum sustained winds have increased to near 135 mph .. The forecast track moves the center across western Cuba then northeastward across the Bahamas. A slight deviation to the left of the forecast track could bring the hurricane to South Florida. It is still too soon to tell about South Florida."
Colin The TGP2 Bucks Guy.

Lazypay,
please e-mail them to
mutt @ Oprano.com
Serge

What's up.

Can anybody tell me where to email my scores for the next 2 games of the world series?
lazypays re-educate and demoralize

LOL Colin, you're all hung up with Da Vinci and the helicopter now, glad I gave you something to stew about ;)

nite :)


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

later all, have to run too. Think about this, ever seen that REAL OLD, maybe 1920's movie where people go to the moon? The rocket they landed on the moon with, did the guy that drew that invent the rocket?

Later ...
Colin The TGP2 Bucks Guy.

all kinds! Full length, full screen, it's an excellent site. Their bw must be HUGE..


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

later dig,colin,serge


mutt Read AskColin Today! Why TGP2 Is Worth Your Time!

doh.....i knew about Patterson not Torres.

cinemanow.com plays what kinds of movies?


mutt

Torres was a light heavyweight champion


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

and a cat named Jose Torres, if we're including the lighter divisions


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

yep, Floyd Patterson :)


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

i don't have the answer for this but did Cus C'Amato ever train a champion other than TYson?
mutt

it's like you said, trivia's no fun if you cheat..


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

speaking of internet movies, check out cinemanow.com, might be old news to some but it was new to me.. I've been watching movies for the last two days :)


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

well at least you are an honest competitor.

You were on the right track. The movie title was "Somebody Up There Likes Me", played by Paul Newman.
mutt

nah I'm pretty sure you'll tell me the answer in a minute or two here hehe


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

i can hear dig crawling around the Internet Movie Database hehehe
mutt

the bridge was gorgeous, supposedly they're going to build one on every continent, hope we get one in California. I'd go see the one in Norway but I don't fly ;)

Mutt, not a clue. well.. it wouldn't be 'Angel on my Shoulder' would it? That just flashed in my mind for some reason... or Angel in my Corner or something like that..


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

i forget how young people are. yeah cuz i wasn't all that old when Ali Fought Wepner.
mutt

But Dig, the theoretical physicist has to think of stuff that works!

People say Einstein came up with theory of relativity but some other mathematician/physicists Lorentz (and maybe Poincare, not sure) anticipated in some ways with certain equations. They were precursors but they don't get credit. Einstein brought it to life correctly.

Davinci deserves SOME mention. He does get it. Maybe his idea inspired later correct models. But, it is more of a historical footnote. Is his drawing, beautiful as it is, an invention?

Did you like the bridge?
Colin The TGP2 Bucks Guy.

since u brought up Graziano, one last question.

Name the actor who played Graziano in his biographical movie, and for a bonus point give me the movie title.
mutt

I remember Chuck Wepner from when I was a kid, vaguely.. Benitez was a great fighter, got waxed by Sugar Ray Leonard right?


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

ahh usually when people ask that question they're talking about heavyweights since Marciano is famous for retiring undefeated and Tyson for being young. You got me :)


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

sorry man.

Wilfred Benitez was the youngest at age 17 to win a title. He was great, that's when i actually followed boxing.

And Stallone got the idea for Rocky after watching the Bayonne Bleeder, a virtual nobody club fighter named Chuck Wepner get a shot at an older Ali and he went the distance with him.
mutt

yeah boxing is elemental man, the highest drama there is.

You can play football, basketball, baseball, rugby, whatever, but you don't PLAY boxing. It runs deeper in the human psyche than that..


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

Damn, Dig KNOWS boxing.
Colin The TGP2 Bucks Guy.

Lots of people have thought of things but didn't design a working model. Nothing was ever designed from them. We don't give THEM credit. Why Davinci for a non-working fanciful drawing of a helicopter?
Colin The TGP2 Bucks Guy.

Rocky Graziano I THINK

Mike Tyson is the youngest HEAVYWEIGHT to win the title and Marciano is the only heavyweight champion to retire undefeated, but you can't forget about the lower weight classes..


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

yup. very good.

ok two more then i gotta get some sleep.

Name the fighter that was Sylvester Stallone's inspiration for his Rocky character.

Name the youngest fighter to win a championship.
mutt

Dig,

His design was unflyable. He used a "helical corkscrew" shape that couldn't/wouldn't/won't fly.

It's a precursor, but *I* can't call that an invention; if one must give credit for such things.

Colin The TGP2 Bucks Guy.

Rocky Marciano, 49-0 I think


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

Dig,

That's why I said "for the most part"
Colin The TGP2 Bucks Guy.

Da Vinci invented the entire concept of the helicopter Colin (unless I'm wrong). That's what makes it special.. just as a theoretical physicist has more professional respect than a practical physicist, it's the theorists who have all the elegance :)


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

Name a champion who went undefeated in his career.
mutt

Colin, you're talking about the 'Theory of Acquired Inherited Characteristics' and believe it or not there are still some Lamarckians out there..


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

Torone,

As far as the "helicopter"; As great as I think Davinci was, and I admire him greatly, saying he "invented the helicopter" is seriously romancing him.

It's a beautiful design. It doesn't work. That is art. Not invention.
It shouldn't be part of saying "he was a great inventor".

As one example, Lamarck proposed
a theory of evolution that the scientific community does not accept. Darwin's natural selection, for the most part, is accepted as
the modus operandi of evolution. Lamarck is a footnote to history. Da Vinci's helicopter is too.
Colin The TGP2 Bucks Guy.

:)


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

Mike Tyson, he lost to Tyrell Biggs in the box-offs


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

ok of these 4 champions which didn't win Olympic gold.

Joe Frazier, Muhammed Ali, George Foreman, Mike Tyson.

oh shit that's too easy
mutt

Kronk of course.. too easy :)


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

i was going to quiz u both right now but i just realized I know next to nothing about math and sciences for Colin.

dig likes boxing. Lemme think of a boxing question.

Name the famous Detroit gym that produced champions such as Tommy Hearns.
mutt

we'll get a rep from each board to put up a contestant ;)


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

that would work, but from a business point of view, a sponsor or two, it wouldn't be good. A combination of cookies and IP tracking would be good enough to get rid of fraud i think.

It would be like the Football Pickem. Not just a one time game. There would be a new set of 10 or 15 questions every week for maybe 8 weeks.


mutt

I'm down!


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

Mutt,

How about live at a conference? The official Oprano Trivia contest. Cost. A table and three buzzers.
Colin TGP2 Bucks. No shit!

do it in a chat room format, instantaneous answers only. For example, ask the question, everyone gets 10 seconds to answer it. Either you know it or you don't..


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

Colin,
Nevertheless, he should get credit for the concept, which was very forward-looking for that day/time...
Torone

that's what i dont' want it to be a test of. research ability. There are people and I think your are one of them who can hunt down info very fast.

I can do it with some help. Cookies.
Of course somebody can just dump their cookies but you would have to be pretty sad to try to win a trivia contest by cheating.
mutt

Mutt, you should run with that.. I love trivia contests and I know Colin would play


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

yeah Crapper is credited with inventing the modern indoor toilet.

Titslinger invented the brassiere.

And the other two, Elmer's glue and WhiteOut were invented by parents of celebrities.

i'll leave those two.
mutt

Colin, I believe a good book would work much better than my...hm...lessons. ;)

Mutt, "Plumbing, Bath & Toilet History" http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blplumbing.htm

:)
Petr

Dig, True! So SOME say.
Colin TGP2 Bucks. No shit!

Mutt,

Have it live .. at a certain time .. and then .. it will combine knowledge with research ability.

How to score? I would propose:

Minimum Score.
Fastest Time.

Like. First person to score 75% correct. Something like that.
Colin The TGP2 Phenomena. A Statistical Fugue in B Major.

and I'm guessing Elmer's safety glue was invented by... Elmer!


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

who invented the toilet? wasn't that a guy named crapper?


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

Petr,

Interesting that he chose a cross.

Some day, when we meet in person, you can give me a Czech History lesson and hence a world history lesson. Learning history on English speaking, english thinking world has some .. ummm ... limitations.
Colin The TGP2 Phenomena. A Statistical Fugue in B Major.

Who invented the toilet?
Who invented the brassiere?
Who invented WhiteOut for typewriters?
Who invented Elmer's safety glue?

I want to do a Webmaster Trivia contest for Oprano/Plus but can't figure out how to do it so people can't cheat.
mutt

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011031/wl/leonardo_s_bridge_2.html
Colin he TGP2 Phenomena. A Statistical Fugue in B Major.

Colin,

http://www.znojmuz.cz/english/aodivis.htm

"(...)The news on the death of Georg Wilhelm Richmann, professor in St. Petersburg, who was killed by a lightning in 1753 during his attempt at measuring the intensity of electric field in the atmosphere, caused Diviš to become interested in atmospheric electricity, and to the decision to construct a "weather-machine" at Přímětice. Its basis was a metal cross, horizontally laid on a 15-metre (later 41.5-metre) high pole, with the ends of the cross intercrossed with shorter metal bars lying in a right angle. The 12 bar ends were equipped with 12 metal boxes, filled with metal filings and penetrated with some 400 sharp metal spikes. The whole construction was grounded to the earth using three conductive chains. Under the influence of the ideas of his time, Diviš conceived the function of metal boxes as Leyden jars in which the electricity "sucked" from the atmosphere was to be collected. This was supposed to prevent lighting discharges and the occurrence of storms themselves. Even though the function ascribed by Diviš to his "weather-machine" principally differed from that of a lightning rod, it basically was a lightning rod by its construction(...)"

etc.


Petr

And .. Davinci's helicopter couldn't/wouldn't fly. I don't count that as an invention. Many people had flying machines that didn't work.


Colin he TGP2 Phenomena. A Statistical Fugue in B Major.

no I didn't.. still got the url?


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

Webfather,
I don't do "those" things on Shabath!

wanna go for panckakes?
Serge sticks and stones will break my bones....;-)))

Dig,

Did you see the link I posted yesterday to bridge invented by DaVinci that was just opened? It's beautiful.

Colin he TGP2 Phenomena. A Statistical Fugue in B Major.

Petr,

A priest summoning thunderbolts.
That must have made for a great demonstration on Sunday afternoons.

You taught me a new name.
Colin he TGP2 Phenomena. A Statistical Fugue in B Major.

Colin, I'll be there. Bringing the crew too..

Edison was a giant but the concepts behind the light bulb and the phonograph were already known, he was in a race with other scientists to see who would be the first to produce a working model.

Da Vinci invented a helicopter on paper before anyone even thought about such a thing and (I'm no architect) supposedly advanced bridge building, dam building etc thru brand new techniques.

We all have our favorites :)


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

Yup.....it's a record!!

Serge.....the posts were flying RECORD fast here yesterday. At that rate you could have had 2400 posts. It would be like breaking the 3 minute mile!!

Maybe we should have a Sergeathon. This is where Serge must post for 72 hours or until he pases out on keyboard.

:-))

Just a thought......and just 48 hours to go!! :-))))

Webfather

...and my hero is Prokop Divis, the inventor of the lightning rod...


Petr

Ulfie, Well, they're not really "studying" all those 14 years. The doctoral thesis must be original work. In some schools (mine), even the undergrad thesis must be original work.
Colin he TGP2 Phenomena. A Statistical Fugue in B Major.

Serge,

Yup. THAT'S the one for me too.

Besides "THE laws of motion" and "THE Law of Gravitation", he invented calculus and was a brilliant mathematician. More than any other person, he taught the world that grand generalities could explain it.
Colin he TGP2 Phenomena. A Statistical Fugue in B Major.

Colin, and those that spent 14 years "studying" I would never hire. Doers do, studyers study, who would you rather have work for you? Unfortunately, the doers usually aren't available because they are busy doing things rather than talking about them.

Would love to continue this all day but I'm off to the golf course.


Ulfie

Colin,
I agree,
and my hero is..

Isaak Newton!

I found that I use his 3rd law
"force applied is equal to counter force"
much more often in day to day life than
Einstein's Relativity Theory and
E=mc2
;-)))
Serge sticks and stones will break my bones....;-)))

Mutt,

And on that note .. and I agree with your thesis .. we must look at an Einstein and truly be amazed as the slate was pretty packed already. In my mind however, Einstein was NOT the greatest physicist of all time.
Colin he TGP2 Phenomena. A Statistical Fugue in B Major.

I think I'm being seduced, someone get out the lube hehehe
******************************

well, we do that sometimes...
;-))

yesterday I seduced RB into posting frenzy,
the joke that my e-mail went to 6340 webmasters did the trick.

Today I'll keep him at bay,
pointing to him,
that when Oprano just opened,
Ron Levi been baited for a month and he never took the bait
(See Webfather's Pearl on the subject)
;-))

Ron is smarter than the average bear,
and avoids baits and a "lighthouse" to us all
;-)))

he is still numero Uno in my book of charecters!
;-)))

<small print>
RB, it's weekend, gimme a break,
I'll continue with you on Wednesday, after 2 major announcements on Monday and Tuesday,
ok?
stay at bay and keep your antourage at bay, nobody will take it as a sign of weaknness,
I swear!
</small print>

Serge Dig, did you contact JohnIP for a DEAL? can be VERY beneficial for your Fetishbucks Business

Dig,

Will you be Adult Dex? If so, let's talk. If not, I'll call you early in the week. email me your phone number. cowboysurfers@yahoo.com
Colin he TGP2 Phenomena. A Statistical Fugue in B Major.

there are people today that if born 500 years ago would have been DaVinci's. The world of knowledge was such a clean slate back then it was easy to make your mark. Now everything we do is incremental. One scientist can work on tiny little thing in a tiny little field his whole life and he may only take that field one tiny step further.

My friend's uncle is a cancer researcher, he's 80 now, he spent his whole career working on something very small, when and if the cure for cancer is ever found, his work will have been a part of it most likely. But nobody will ever know his name.
mutt

Dig,

No one can touch Edison as inventor.

Invented:

Electronic Vote recorder
Stock ticker
phonograph
light bulb
movie camera

Not only invented but created working models.
Colin he TGP2 Phenomena. A Statistical Fugue in B Major.

btw Colin, I have access to a very large number of TGP webmasters thru Adultform.com (several thousand regular users) but neither the time nor the inclination to get too involved in TGP doings.

if you have any ideas about how adultform could fit into your grand TGP2 schemes drop me an email :)

dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

that's alright, he could learn english in about a week ;)


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

"wouldn't you like to have a conversation with him?"

I don't speak Italian.
Colin he TGP2 Phenomena. A Statistical Fugue in B Major.

Da Vinci is arguably the greatest artist of all time, the greatest architect of all time and the greatest inventor of all time. He was also skilled in languages, statesmanship and war theory.

wouldn't you like to have a conversation with him?


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

Me? I just want Oprano Pearls. Imagine how happy I am today.
********************************

good, I hope you are not concerned about hurricane anymore
;-))

Oprano-
we chase troubles away!
;-)))
Serge private deals are still available

I think I'm being seduced, someone get out the lube hehehe


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

Dig,

Davinci and Franklin. Two great ones. Going way back, Aristotle.
Colin he TGP2 Phenomena. A Statistical Fugue in B Major.

*blush*


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

regarding the ad spot, I haven't bought advertising since I opened setgo.
***********************

and you shouldn't!

SergesCash never bought a single button on ANY boards,
haven't prevented it from taking home more $$$ than RB at it's peak.

Webmasters with your oratorial skills,
ferocity in fights,
charm,
personality,
and apreciation to the art and the place where it's mastered,
can do well without it!
;_)))
Serge private deals are still available

Serge,

Mohammed said that if you go to heaven, you will be surrounded by virgins. Me? I just want Oprano Pearls. Imagine how happy I am today.


"As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high- bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup." 78:31

"In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair... Dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jin will have touched before" 55:70-77
Colin he TGP2 Phenomena. A Statistical Fugue in B Major.

I hear what you're saying Colin, the pool of knowledge in certain fields is so deep that it takes half a lifetime just to become competent.

Still, a guy like Ben Franklin or Da Vinci was fucking amazing. They could do anything.


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

Colin, congratulations!

NOBODY EVER made 2! pearls in one day!

Physics students today, for the most part, hate psychology, liberal arts, etc. They should. If they like them too much, it will detract from their studies and they will end up pornographers! Horrible!

IS a Pearl!!!!
;-)))
Serge private deals are still available

any board that gets webmasters together and talking is worthwhile. Oprano gets some big hitters!

pusi.com should be very interesting.. regarding the ad spot, I haven't bought advertising since I opened setgo. Haven't bought much content either, I trade for banner spots :)

Gotta love owning a resource site :))


dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

Dig,

And of course, it is nearly impossible not to. Take a contemporary physicist for example. After 4 years undergrad, 6 years grad, 4 years post doc, they are ready for "Associate Professor". On average, it takes 14 years just to catch up with everyone else before you can go explore.

The system will only now reward those that are most specialized, those that are most focused. Physics students today, for the most part, hate psychology, liberal arts, etc. They should. If they like them too much, it will detract from their studies and they will end up pornographers! Horrible!
Colin he TGP2 Phenomena. A Statistical Fugue in B Major.

Fighting, fucking, what's the difference?
*********************

do you mind if I answer you that at
http://pusi.com in a few days?
;-)))

BIG difference!
;-)))
Serge sticks and stones will break my bones....;-)))

BTW, Dig,
I hope you find Oprano being a worth while cause to contribute...

we try giving back to all our contributors,
big and small,
rich and poor,
except parasites.....
Serge sticks and stones will break my bones....;-)))

now it's a Peace time,
but I know for a fact, that when the war times come-
we'll burn each other into the ashes and come out of it as Phoenexes, alive and well and even better!
-----------------------

it's all in a day's work ;) Fighting, fucking, what's the difference?




dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

Colin, 'geniuses of old' is right. Their knowledge was not only vast it was amazingly wide ranging, and a lettered man was expected to be an expert in many different fields.

Genuises today are specialists from an early age.

dig420 now THIS is what I'm talkin about!

The most beautiful sentences a child utters begin "I wonder how ..."
---

and the most ugly sentences when the child/adult stops asking - or thinking they don't need to ask anymore :-)

cj (vaginator) 70 bucks a POP!!