Serge dahling, you talking about FM's partner?
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is that the ONLY Paul you know????
I meant Paul McCarthy,
but if you rather talk about Paul ron's partner,
how is him?
what are his plans for the future?
Serge By Adult Gurus for the mainstream consumption!
Thu, 12 Jul - 13:05:10 12.89.182.194 Post #: 1800
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Maybe I should take your feeds and shitty content we are/were going to use and shove it up your ARSE, BRAD;-)))
Thu, 12 Jul - 13:04:23 12.27.150.246 Post #: 1799
Your right, WC does suck, it actually teaches webmasters how not to overpay for BOARD ads;-))) joee Even If You Hate The Player We Pay BEST! And NEVER MISSED A PAYMENT!
JohnIP, Sammi, Phillip,
Thu, 12 Jul - 13:01:11 12.89.182.194 Post #: 1798
thanks for the lunch! It was one of the most interesting lunches I had in my entire career, I felt like a fucking newb again! ;_))) disregard the e-mail you'll get from my John, it doesn't apply to you ;-))) Serge $40 comission out of the thin air!
MikeAI......Here's a fish story for ya.
Thu, 12 Jul - 13:00:23 208.63.238.2 Post #: 1797
As some of you know my fishingtackle.com is pointed to gofishin.com site and I have been getting paid for a few years. As a marketing person I could only imagine what a mistake it was not to have gofishing.com I corrected the situation by buying gofishing.com today and it is now in my control and should be active tomorrow. Once it is activated I can figure out EXACTLY how much this was costing gofishin.com in lost business. Just another fishstory.com :-)) Webfather $40 comission out of the thin air!
Serge- Cut me a deal on advertsing here? I got a small craft about 160x80 to land.
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:57:50 12.89.182.194 Post #: 1796
ALIEN *************** sure, Alien, with Netpond charging $2000 per banner per month TopNiche charging $1700 per banner per month NetSurprise charging $2000 per button per month what is your definition of "DEAL"? Post your offer and we'll take it from here. Serge $40 comission out of the thin air! 
MikeAI -
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:56:13 172.144.118.157 Post #: 1795
It's all good. I made the post before I even saw your post to DoKK. LIke i said yesterday. I have no probs with Dokk or his radio show. Dokk does what he does best, entertain. I stick to what I know.. educating webmasters.. But hey.. our shows are on at different times... so stop by tonight and check it out... I'm sure even you can be educated! haha :-)) sharky MaxCashLive - Will Brad give head tonight? Sharkey I did not say you hosted a dick sucking content - though with Brad on you might!! The old Sharkey lives are classics... I know many people who used thsoe shows to build a livelihood. Just cause I propped DoKK does not mean there are not others I like! :-) Plus it seem you were getting lots of love as it was!! I don't want you to get a big EGO!! Mike AI You saw my conversions, 1 in 165.... new revenue stream won't take away from adult $$$
Pith:
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:46:50 24.4.255.112 Post #: 1793
a. [Compar. Pithier; superl. Pithiest.] 1. Consisting wholly, or in part, of pith; abounding in pith; ************************************ Hmmm . . . sounds like this board. Loads 'O Pith . . . =0) Gavster Posting Pithy Comments Since 1996
RE: Post # 1773
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:43:11 172.144.118.157 Post #: 1792
MikeAI - Why not tune in to MaxCashLive tonight and see if I host a dick sucking contest:-) I assure you.. I try to focus on biz.. and steer far from the dick sucking. However, I do tend to agree with my guests a lot... Not because I am "stroking their ego," but because I do agree with them! lol. Seriously... I know you are a busy guy.. but why not stop in the show tonight and let me convince you to become a regular listener and possibly a guest in the future:-) sharky MaxCashLive - Brad Shaw gives feeds away tonight!
Ditto what Sharky said. Greatly appreciate the fine comments and support. Thank you!!
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:42:52 168.191.31.141 Post #: 1791
--- "Why on earth do you think McD's et al are so keen on Supersizing???" You've gotta love it. It's an upsell. Dravyk Daily industry news, board snippets, event reminders and more  DoKK I love it - spoken like an old stipclub DJ YMMV!! :-) You are the orignator DoKK you are the only one I try to take time out and listen to.... And you know I always send Billy as the offical HiRise emmisary - to entertain all the ladies! Mike AI You saw my conversions, 1 in 165.... new revenue stream won't take away from adult $$$
If radio shows are so great... why doesn't meni have a radio show?
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:40:43 195.46.168.212 Post #: 1789
JR my car has a little dial on the dashboard to aim the headlights up and down while you are driving
bpj -
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:36:56 172.144.118.157 Post #: 1788
Hailey is doing great.. Thanks for asking? How about your little ones??? sharky MaxCashLive - Brad Shaw gives feeds away tonight!
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Thu, 12 Jul - 12:35:13 172.144.118.157 Post #: 1787
Most of the radio shows are pure shit, such as webmaster confessions and Evan's show. They provide no real information other than patting each other on the back. But, there are a few good shows, such as Max Cash Live, and Sounding Point. Brad Shaw Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:43:05 - IP: 65.65.84.81 - Post # 1777 ----------------------------- Only a couple of these radio shows(Max Cash Live and Sounding point) focus on the business side of things. All the rest are just a big dick contests. Jimmyslits , put us to work for you! Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:51:38 - IP: 216.221.66.36 - Post # 1780 --------------------------- Thanks for the support guys! :-)) sharky MaxCashLive - Brad Shaw gives feeds away tonight!
yes
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:33:23 66.68.121.178 Post #: 1786
http://www.dictionary.com the wise man's paradise (which clearly I am not) is a true plethora of knowledge... but then i wouldn't get to do cool shit like make up stupid tag lines all day :-) Jack MeHoff Can I borrow your towel? My car just hit a water buffalo. 
Hi All,
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:32:13 216.99.199.147 Post #: 1785
Yep Pithy, Only Bill Oreily can say that best on his show:)) Love the new Pop Up Post box!!! sextoyking 100 Animated Banners, $799.00
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Thu, 12 Jul - 12:29:30 198.78.108.14 Post #: 1784
Whats up with all these webmaster radio shows?? I dunno, something! **** Do we need this many of them? Hell no!! ;-) **** Are any of them informational? Yeah. I would humbly and gently suggest it isn't so much the shows people object to, maybe more the manner in which they're promoted on the board(s). Your mileage of course may vary!! ;-) dokk You saw my conversions, 1 in 165.... new revenue stream won't take away from adult $$$
JR this rings so true, it must be reposted. Maybe a pearl - though since it is long it should be a pearl necklace!
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:20:56 66.21.171.41 Post #: 1783
that describes many people in this business. artificial businessman chasing artificial committments and artificial agreements while forming artificial friendships based on artificial smiles and artificial handshakes with artificial people who have an artificial image and artificial friends JR Mike AI You saw my conversions, 1 in 165.... new revenue stream won't take away from adult $$$
oh JR, you forgot the
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:19:52 64.38.194.18 Post #: 1782
artificial intelligence in your list of artifice ;-}}} KK Serge - what did you do to Heather??? HAHA I am glad someone recognized the pithy thing!! :-) Mike AI Serge - what did you do to Heather??? 
VooDoo - I must be getting old..... this ankle sprain seems to be taking forever to heal! ;-( Almost there though... get w/ BigS and let's play in the gym w/ some AC again! Way too hot to play outside these days...
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:16:01 12.5.154.142 Post #: 1780
BTW - excellent idea on the E-eraser "lite" Drav - that's just ONE small feature that sets us apart! ;-) sharky - ditto! ps how's your little one? :) bpj Serge - what did you do to Heather???
Shok...
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:14:42 216.221.66.36 Post #: 1779
Is it friday already? You want some lovin.... Jumpin loverboy, I'll love ya! Jimmyslits Shok likes it in the ass
4) be pithy!
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:11:36 216.183.254.20 Post #: 1778
--------------- Know Mike "No Spin Zone" Ai wrote that!! :)) TheEnforcer did KB really apologiz for threatening to kill someone on Netpond??... can you say P-S-Y-C-H-O?
They provide no real information other than patting each other on the back.
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:11:05 195.46.168.212 Post #: 1777
that describes many people in this business. artificial businessman chasing artificial committments and artificial agreements while forming artificial friendships based on artificial smiles and artificial handshakes with artificial people who have an artificial image and artificial friends JR did KB really apologiz for threatening to kill someone on Netpond??... can you say P-S-Y-C-H-O?
Jack:
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:08:31 63.100.104.10 Post #: 1776
pith·y (pth) adj. pith·i·er, pith·i·est Precisely meaningful; forceful and brief: a pithy comment. http://www.dictionary.com is a wonderful place to expand your mind! Edd Zen Webmastering  Thu, 12 Jul - 12:08:12 64.6.39.81 Post #: 1775
Please forgive my ignorance... but what is "pithy"?
Thu, 12 Jul - 12:04:14 66.68.121.178 Post #: 1774
Jack MeHoff The plaque for the alternates is down in the ladies room.
Ok, since a few of you have stated that you didn't like the way the comments box was working for the posts, I've gone and tweaked it out a bit... so it should be better now... I hope...
Thu, 12 Jul - 11:58:54 63.100.104.10 Post #: 1773
Edd Zen Webmastering
Brad,
Thu, 12 Jul - 11:51:38 216.221.66.36 Post #: 1772
You nailed it! Only a couple of these radio shows(Max Cash Live and Sounding point) focus on the business side of things. All the rest are just a big dick contests. Jimmyslits put us to work for you! KK that is a great Pearl, will have to get Serges opinion! Hooper what are you talking about??? I have not gotten any correspondence from you at all about anything. I must be out of the loop. E-mail me michael at hirise dot com Mike AI I need a new line 
Mike... never heard back from you or serge... hit me up when you get a chance?
Thu, 12 Jul - 11:43:22 66.68.121.178 Post #: 1770
hooper AT clickfeel.com Hooper The plaque for the alternates is down in the ladies room.
Most of the radio shows are pure shit, such as webmaster confessions and Evan's show. They provide no real information other than patting each other on the back.
Thu, 12 Jul - 11:43:05 65.65.84.81 Post #: 1769
But, there are a few good shows, such as Max Cash Live, and Sounding Point. Brad Shaw Newbies and OldFolds alike can win big with ACN & AIN's giveaways!
KK,
Thu, 12 Jul - 11:42:20 63.52.219.123 Post #: 1768
A definite pearl, good catch. Serge? BTW, Serge, you got mailski. ThrobX Newbies and OldFolds alike can win big with ACN & AIN's giveaways!
"Almost ANYTHING...that increases customer retention is far less costly and more pofitable then $$$ spent on new customer aquistion
Thu, 12 Jul - 11:34:06 64.38.194.18 Post #: 1767
JohnIP " ---------------- I am nominating that one for the pearls! The easiest customer to sell to is one who has already bought previously. Why on earth do you think McD's et al are so keen on Supersizing??? KK Official Newsman of Oprano.com ???
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Thu, 12 Jul - 11:30:28 216.34.244.105 Post #: 1766
Taboo we should make you the official newsman of Oprano.com Good, intersting news! Mike AI , ---- Christian group posts site for sex addicts http://web.tallahasseedemocrat.com/content/tallahassee/2001/07/07/features/0707.rel.sexcounseling.htm The hacker who sent Viagra to Bill Gates http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1434000/1434530.stm Former officer facing porn charges http://www.onlineathens.com/stories/071201/new_0712010039.shtml IMPORTANT? Extreme porn crackdown The LAPD is targeting a new wave of kinky XXX films. But if porn legends like Seymore Butts have their way, "bukkake" will become a household name. http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/2001/07/12/seymore/index_np.html Stranger than Fiction: Safeway delivers porn by email The outraged customer explained that she had registered on Safeway's website and asked to be informed about special offers. http://webserv.vnunet.com/News/1123845 "Special Offers" ???? Hickory Dickory Dock... (you'll understand if you read this one) Who needs Webvan when you can get porn from Safeway! ;-) SunTzu aka Taboo Official Newsman of Oprano.com ???  OK another topic, since JoeE was getting his nose all worked out of shape. Whats up with all these webmaster radio shows?? Do we need this many of them? Are any of them informational? Is it purely entertainment ( surely joee talking about making people take off their pants to sit on his camal hair chairs is not going to help a newbie make a sale). Any opinions out there?? I really do not catch many of the shows - so I really do not have much of an opinion. Though it seems to me to be more about EGO then anything else! Ooooh on that nore, maybe I should have my OWN show them!! Yeah thats the ticket! Mike AI Great Content! Thu, 12 Jul - 11:21:00 24.4.255.113 Post #: 1764 Taboo we should make you the offical newsman of Oprano.com Good, intersting news! Mike AI Howdy folks
This signals the end for men. All women will become lesbians.. and women will become men.
Thu, 12 Jul - 11:00:11 24.164.61.12 Post #: 1762
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010710/hl/sperm_1.html Brujah Webmaster Trix and Tips!
Mike AI,
Thu, 12 Jul - 10:51:54 216.34.244.8 Post #: 1761
better than the movies... real life always is. A Possible Name Change for North Dakota: Just Dakota http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ipmi/20010712/cm/a_possible_name_change_for_north_dakota_1.html Eggs Fertilized Without Sperm http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/Health/Fertility_and_Pregnancy/ The truth is stranger than fiction... No Sex for Two Years, Moi Urges Kenyan People http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010712/hl/sex_3.html other related articles: "Kenyan Condom Sales Plunge, Masturbation Rates Rise" ;-) SunTzu aka Taboo MaxCashLive - Brad Shaw gives feeds away tonight! 
Bill & Voodoo -
Thu, 12 Jul - 10:49:58 172.139.90.150 Post #: 1760
You both seem to be coming out of your shell again and promoting... Very good to see you two around again:-) sharky MaxCashLive - Brad Shaw gives feeds away tonight!
I gotta hit the grocery store and play the pick 4.
Thu, 12 Jul - 10:47:04 24.218.204.233 Post #: 1759
I got 2 checks yesterday one from CEN check #3363 one from Turbocash check #3363 hmmmmm I feel lucky Meni Jenna Cash, Jenna's Offical Site
JoeE don't mean to
Thu, 12 Jul - 10:46:56 65.35.53.35 Post #: 1758
be a cry baby But-- My Xmas crabs never showed up :( 7 months I been waiting--- Brad Shaw Sends Holiday food on-time! You need more staff to manage my life :-) Lee Noga FuckedMaster - News you can use or defuse, talking bout YOU next Thu, 12 Jul - 10:41:37 66.21.160.168 Post #: 1757 Thu, 12 Jul - 10:16:17 24.218.204.233 Post #: 1756 
KoKo, always good for people to posts stats!
Thu, 12 Jul - 10:15:27 65.65.84.81 Post #: 1755
Is Jenna crew taking notes? Brad Shaw Mature sites that kick ass! Taboo - that is some crazy stuff about Conduit!! This is like a movie or something!! Mike AI Mature sites that kick ass!
sorry for the cut and paste, someone suggested i post this here as well. i guess if i want people to see it, this is where it should go.
Thu, 12 Jul - 10:04:59 152.163.206.214 Post #: 1753
posted on netpond. joee from cen stop being a damn crybaby. i was watching you and serge on oprano.com. you were out of line, like normal. i guess if you cannot control something you take offense. i remember you doing the same thing here awhile ago on netpond. why dont you just follow the rules over at oprano.com like other people? why do you think you deserve special treatment over anyone else? there were no rearrangement of posts, i think that might have been an illusion of the powdery stuff in your nose. joe e remember no one likes a cry baby. ohh i also listened to webmaster confessions, reminds me of the addage one should not do drugs and radio. LEE - Big props on fuckedwebmaster.com, too bad its only you posting on it. i guess i can stop by and add some flavor. Bored Watcher Thu Jul 12 12:11:19 2001 - 64.12.104.176 - message #152260 bored watcher Classy enough to take Serge out to lunch! ok KOKO got some preliminary numbers from a small mailer for http://softwarebucks.com 1 in 169 which is not to shabby, better then I thought it would do. I am excited, and other webmasters should be as well to open a new stream of revenue that should not take away from adult business side. Mike AI Classy enough to take Serge out to lunch!
Mike,
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:57:23 209.60.47.3 Post #: 1751
Sounds good... What the hell, in the spirit of numbers, here are some screenshots of a well known TGP's stats... (with his approval) http://www.softwarebucks.com/ab1.JPG and http://www.softwarebucks.com/ab2.JPG he's doing over .21 cents per click.. off a TGP. KoKo CleanBrowser.com made to convert ! 
Yes, good meeting you too, Voodoo. I think the lite version is an extremely good idea. Pitch the full version and if it's too much, well, "we have a version just for you!" :D
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:56:41 63.52.219.32 Post #: 1750
Sounds good! ThrobX Looking for upsells? Check out Adult Income News Wow I miss all the excitement with JoeE. JoeE you know I love you, but rules are rules. We would be pretty shallow if we enforce the rules against a newbie spamming, but yet let a player like you? If nothing else can be said about Oprano.com, it is that we are fair. So chip in, add to the dialouge.... THEN spam! :-) Come on bubbie work with me here! Mike AI Mateur sites that convert like MAD!
bpj -
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:55:06 66.68.163.251 Post #: 1748
They never left, just went dormant for a while. =) Whenever you think your well enough lets get back on the court, I am anxious to take you to the rack again! VoodooChile Evidence-Eraser.com - $40/sale and $10 2nd tier payouts! Thu, 12 Jul - 09:51:38 168.191.31.141 Post #: 1747
Shit VooDoo... your marketing skills are starting to come back! Kinda fun to be "un-retired" again, eh? 8^)
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:47:11 12.5.154.142 Post #: 1746
About "loyalty memberships" - WTS gives it's merchants the ability to offer members that are CANCELLING, one last offer..... "we hate to see you go....but since you have been a "loyal" member to our site, we will allow you to CONTINUE your membership at this new, dicounted price! If you're NOT doing Checks with us.... you're LOSING money! http://www.achdebit.com Hooper - see ya in a few bpj WTS - loyalty memberships offered upon cancellations requests! 
ThrobX -
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:47:08 66.68.163.251 Post #: 1745
It was nice meeting you at the show in Vegas. FYI, we will be introducing a "lite" version of Evidence Eraser probably next week at a reduced price point to compete with clean browser. We know that not everyone needs or wants a "professional" version of the software. The "lite" version will have all the same functions but will not destroy data at the same levels as the professional version. We are also integrating a 900# payment option to the affiliate program as well. We are always open to feedback that any of you have about the product and the wemaster program. VoodooChile Evidence-Eraser.com - $40/sale and $10 2nd tier payouts! KoKo - my guy who runs the mailers and tracks these things is in class right now. When he gets out I will get the information and post it. Mike AI Classy enough to take Serge out to lunch!
Voodoo,
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:44:40 209.60.47.3 Post #: 1743
I'm with you on that, I guess we'll let our prices be our differentiating factor for now ; ) KoKo CleanBrowser.com made to convert !
Gary Condit gets around...
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:41:21 216.34.244.150 Post #: 1742
- Intern - Flight Attendant and now... - Minister's Daughter so what's next, Strippers, Pornstars, Prostitutes... wow... smells like a new celeb site brewing, ConditsHarem.com jeesh... better stop using Condit's name before some 3-letter gov't organization tracks me down: FBI, CIA, DEA, DOJ, KFC... ;-) SunTzu aka Taboo FuckedMaster - News you can use or defuse, talking bout YOU next
Serge dahling, you talking about FM's partner? Yes, I meant him at the CE offices in May, he sits in adjacent office to FM.
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:38:45 65.35.53.35 Post #: 1741
Walked into customer support area, and it looked like ton of operators w/headsets taking home shopping network orders. Lee Noga FuckedMaster - News you can use or defuse, talking bout YOU next 
Hey Oprano, whatever you do, please don't disable the original posting page at:
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:36:20 216.34.244.105 Post #: 1740
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/post.php One of my thin consoles has Javascript disabled, no way to modify easily, and can't use the new pop-up... thanks in advance... SunTzu aka Taboo Evidence-Eraser.com - $40/sale and $10 2nd tier payouts!
Thanks KoKo!
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:34:18 66.68.163.251 Post #: 1739
We have also tested this and found that with the right pitch you can good conversions at this price point. As you know, it is just a matter of matching the price with the marketing. Value is just an illusion, if the surfer has the correct illusion he will pay up for what is perceived as a superior product whether it actually is or not. VoodooChile Evidence-Eraser.com - $40/sale and $10 2nd tier payouts!
Test...
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:34:05 216.34.244.18 Post #: 1738
SunTzu aka Taboo CleanBrowser.com made to convert !
MikeAI,
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:31:33 209.60.47.3 Post #: 1737
What are you http://www.softwarebucks.com numbers looking like?? KoKo CleanBrowser.com made to convert !
Almost ANYTHING...that increases customer retention is far less costly and more pofitable then $$$ spent on new customer aquistion
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:29:42 141.150.60.157 Post #: 1736
JohnIP Try the software that converts !!  Thu, 12 Jul - 09:28:48 24.4.255.113 Post #: 1735
Voodoo,
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:27:08 209.60.47.3 Post #: 1734
Congrats on your product ; ) Got a question, we did extensive testing on the 140-150 price point with other programs, and conversions were really not good. Our numbers showed we can convert 3X more at our price point thus possibly paying webmasters $75 per sale in comparison to a $140/40 commission set up... what's your take on this? KoKo Try the software that converts !!
THROBX-
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:26:24 64.174.156.146 Post #: 1733
I am already using evidence Eraser. This is a must have on any console;P ALIEN Pornstars. Fresh Faces. Hot Girls. Award winning Movies. Get $33.00 PerMember. JoeE is high maintenance :-) __________________ HAHAHAHAHA Mike AI Classy enough to take Serge out to lunch!
Good morning.
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:24:53 64.174.156.146 Post #: 1731
Boy I bet there will be some piss today about AdultChamber... The call out has been made. OZ VS. Adult Chamber. What drama there is today. Or rather will be. my bets are on OZ. Serge- Cut me a deal on advertsing here? I got a small craft about 160x80 to land. ALIEN Pornstars. Fresh Faces. Hot Girls. Award winning Movies. Get $33.00 PerMember. 
I've promoted Evidence Eliminator for quite some time and done VERY well with it. Haven't experienced a late payment, either. However, the price doubling left a sour taste in my mouth, so I'm testing some others. Currently testing Clean Browser, will also test Evidence Eraser.
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:22:10 63.52.219.32 Post #: 1730
Two things Eliminator needs to do: better traffic stats (they ONLY show a referrer list with no total, so you have to total it up yourself manually, each day... PITA); and hire someone with a personality and people skills to answer their emails. No offense meant toward programmers out there, but Andy is the consummate programmer when it comes to dealing with people. ;D ThrobX Looking for upsells? Check out Adult Income News
sorry, CENsored Lee,
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:21:37 12.89.183.178 Post #: 1729
I have to run to meet unCENsored Sammi and INSITEful JohnIP, I'll rip - wink with you later, ok? Serge $40 comission out of the thin air!
On another note.. is anybody else getting sick of the adultchamber spam? I've gotten at least 10 this week :-(
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:20:55 66.68.121.178 Post #: 1728
Somebody must DIE!!! Hooper L-I-V-I-N Mannnn...
"check the new Posting BOX!"
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:20:54 168.191.31.141 Post #: 1727
Still needs a wrap=physical thingy for Nutscrape and a width="600" would be cool. :-) But I like the popup!! "I talked with the people at Ibill about this also. They say it definetly helps retention, but could not provide numbers to back it up. Helping retention is not always good if you get less money." "Dravyk: the ibill loyalty discount has been around for a long time but even if it does help retention... so i keep them for 4 months & the last 2 i nailem for 14.95... i woulda rather had em for 2.5 at full rates..." I agree with both of you, Voodoo, Hooper, if it doesn't make you more money, why do it? It probably depends on upsells and a several other factors as to whether it would or not. Dravyk Daily industry news, board snippets, event reminders and more
re: loyalty discounts
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:20:12 216.34.244.105 Post #: 1726
Loyalty programs should NOT be promoted until after the surfer becomes a member...and perhaps not right away... This should only be promoted as a "back-end" marketing tool, or upon cancellation request. You fill the surfers mind with the idea that he may be able to find what he's looking for at the $14.95 price ELSEWHERE... they understand Trials, Bulk Discount on mulit-month, but DRASTIC price slashing has negative effect. JMHO... ;-) There are other alternatives that I will discuss later, that have been eluded to by others but not in use... not golden opportunities but definitely will add a few more zeros... nuff said. SunTzu aka Taboo I keep gettin older.. they just stay the same age 
YAY! The posting form is in a new window! Woo Hoo!!! *doin the jig*
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:18:30 66.68.121.178 Post #: 1725
Definitely do lunch soon voodoo & i'll be checking out your software very soon :-) Couldn't come from a more trusted source... Shit... I don't think I've EVER had a sponsor pay me in CASH ;-))) Dravyk: the ibill loyalty discount has been around for a long time but even if it does help retention... so i keep them for 4 months & the last 2 i nailem for 14.95... i woulda rather had em for 2.5 at full rates... Fuck Discounts... Lets Raise Prices & All Buy New Cars!!! Hooper I keep gettin older.. they just stay the same age Thu, 12 Jul - 09:17:50 66.68.163.251 Post #: 1724 Thu, 12 Jul - 09:17:50 12.89.183.178 Post #: 1723
Isn't that "The Art of War" ???
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:14:31 12.89.183.178 Post #: 1722
;-) ************* No, this is the art of how to retire doing absolutelly NOTHING! ;-))) Serge $40 comission out of the thin air!
Pardon me, coming thru-
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:13:50 65.35.53.35 Post #: 1721
I am JoeE's bitch- Typo error on his post He meant to say http://www.sexcheck.com JoeE is high maintenance :-) Lee Noga FuckedMaster - News you can use or defuse, talking bout YOU next  Thu, 12 Jul - 09:13:12 12.89.183.178 Post #: 1720
Voodoo, you have mail...
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:11:39 216.34.244.150 Post #: 1719
subj: "Must be the MONEY!" -------- Taboo, you got it right- SELL weapons to the both sides! ;-)) Serge -------- Isn't that "The Art of War" ??? ;-) SunTzu aka Taboo It's not the Big that eat the Small, it's the Fast that eat the Slow.
Dravyk -
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:08:50 66.68.163.251 Post #: 1718
I talked with the people at Ibill about this also. They say it definetly helps retention, but could not provide numbers to back it up. Helping retention is not always good if you get less money. I would rather make the same or slightly less money up front than wait 3-6 months longer to get it. VoodooChile Evidence-Eraser.com - $40/sale and $10 2nd tier payouts!
Testing testes . . . 1-2-3
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:04:56 65.12.28.39 Post #: 1717
Hey, is this thing on? Gavster Daily industry news, board snippets, event reminders and more
Damn!! LMAO! I don't know what I'm laughing harder at, Dokk's KFC thing or "I am not censoring, I am CENsoring!" (Sorry, Joe, but that's hilarious!!)
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:04:47 168.191.31.141 Post #: 1716
Ok, how about a wider posting box and add wrapping for Netscape browsers as well as IE? :-) Onto biz discussion ... Was just looking at Top Bucks' paysite tours and came across an, ahem, "interesting" strategy they are doing. What do folks here think of this? (Remember Top Bucks is a recurring program so the webmasters get their share of both the recurrs and the chargebacks.) The join page button reads: "$14.95 a month - w/ Loyalty Discount" So I say, huh? And click to the billing page which then pronounces: "Name of site renews at $24.95 every 30 days. Today's Charge is $39.95. LOYALTY DISCOUNT -- On (a date marked two months hence that must always stay current to that)-2001, your subscription will be reduced to $14.95." So who here things this mean this strategy will cause a) chargeback hell b) few sales but good recurrings and a three-month minimum stay c) other? Personally I think it's not a good plan, but I do appreciate someone trying to think out of the box. Upon further reflection, there might be something to the idea of a (much more slowly) graduated "loyalty" price reduction, but I wouldn't toss $14.95 in their faces and then slap them with a $40 fee a moment later. Dravyk Daily industry news, board snippets, event reminders and more 
Thanks for the kudos Hooper! I havent seen you sign up yet???
Thu, 12 Jul - 09:01:42 66.68.163.251 Post #: 1715
BTW, we have to do lunch again soon. I want to check out that new Vette you got. VoodooChile Evidence-Eraser.com - $40/sale and $10 2nd tier payouts!
My group is working on similar vein projects, but for large corps/gov, and for other side of the war. But why not sell weapons to both sides?
Thu, 12 Jul - 08:53:01 12.89.183.178 Post #: 1714
*************** Jesus, another entry into advertising market! ;-))) Taboo, you got it right- SELL weapons to the both sides! ;-)) Serge $40 comission out of the thin air!
Suntzu - send me your phone number at my email below and we can discuss what you have in mind. We can work out a licensing arrangement and change the name or whatever needs to get done to make us all more money.
Thu, 12 Jul - 08:51:46 66.68.163.251 Post #: 1713
That's what we are all about..."Must be the MONEY!" From whatI heard at the Vegas show many people have had problems getting paid by evidence eliminator either on time or at all. VoodooChile Evidence-Eraser.com - $40/sale and $10 2nd tier payouts!
$149 retail / $40+ commission
Thu, 12 Jul - 08:48:35 216.34.244.18 Post #: 1712
http://www.evidence-eliminator.com/ $140 retail / $40+ commission / $10 2nd tier http://www.evidence-eraser.com/ $40 retail / $25+ commission http://www.cleanbrowser.com/ Is there anymore room in the marketplace? http://www.?????????????.com of course... ;-) I promo'ed Eliminator, great conversion rate, 1:200+, when the price was MUCH MUCH lower, after they raised the price, it was no longer worth it. But their customer service is topshelf... Someone give me a private label version to resell for under $100 and that would be perfect... e-me for details. My group is working on similar vein projects, but for large corps/gov, and for other side of the war. But why not sell weapons to both sides? ;-) SunTzu aka Taboo Revenues from JAMES BONDS!
Voodoo and I go way back to early Antigua days.
Thu, 12 Jul - 08:43:54 12.89.183.178 Post #: 1711
When I saw what he had cooking I forced myself into the deal! hahaha Out of the box is the only way to go these days and its prolly the only way of making any "New" money as well! *********************** DK, knowing you you pick up a good winners lately! ;-p)))) I wish you the best with the NEW proggy and patiently wait for the numbers to take 'em apart! ;_)) Serge Revenues from JAMES BONDS!
Because we offer a 30 day demo the sales usually lag about 20-30 days from the time you start promoting. But once you make it that long into the program the sales start rolling in consistently based on how much traffic you are sending.
Thu, 12 Jul - 08:41:17 66.68.163.251 Post #: 1710
VoodooChile Evidence-Eraser.com - $40/sale and $10 2nd tier payouts!
Damn Dokk... I sure hope that's not true... chickens with tubes up their asses & no beaks?
Thu, 12 Jul - 08:41:16 66.68.121.178 Post #: 1709
Not exactly a mouth watering vision. Congrats on the great new product voodoo :-) Hooper All the other players are on board... Are you?
Webmasters make $40 per sale and we also pay $10 per sale for any webmasters you refer to the program. Our initial numbers ar about 1/100 - 1/200 on shit traffic. I think it will do better on shit traffic cause the TGP and Freehost. Generally, those are the surfers who look for the most explicit and perverted adult material.
Thu, 12 Jul - 08:39:15 66.68.163.251 Post #: 1708
We are currently working on a deal for nationwide distribution thru software distributors. Hopefully you may find this in "a store near you" not too long from now. With security being at the forefront of issues for all web surfers this is a product that is arriving at the perfect time. VoodooChile Evidence-Eraser.com - $40/sale and $10 2nd tier payouts!
Serge i can't believe you're censoring man...
Thu, 12 Jul - 08:39:01 12.89.183.178 Post #: 1707
*********** Joee, I am not censoring, I am CENsoring! and Joeensoring! ;-))) did you see the pic I posted of you hugging Steve Case?? LMK if you have not and I'll post it again! ;-))) Serge Revenues from JAMES BONDS!
"It apeals to both mainstream and adult surfers..
Thu, 12 Jul - 08:36:46 12.89.183.178 Post #: 1706
every walk of life from Tommy hiding porn from his Mom to Mike hiding bank statements from his wife! :)~ ************************ geez, this product should be offered in the Spy Shops! I bet the foreign demand for the product should be HUGE, not everybody are free as we are, if they only had credit cards... ;-((( Serge Revenues from JAMES BONDS!  Serge i can't believe you're censoring man... Remember the story that ends like this? "And when they came for me, there was nobody left to stand up!" Hooper- could not of said it better myself;-))) http://www.sescheck.com is out and by far an excellent product.. Want to review hotshots? ;-))) joee Expected You At Webmasters To be There IF You Want Some Confessions Last Night;-)
and what are results reported by webmasters?
Thu, 12 Jul - 08:33:39 12.89.183.178 Post #: 1704
how much do they make with it? gimme some numbers, man! "Numbers I trust..." ;-))) Serge Revenues "out of the box"
Dokk - You always keep such a busy schedule, bro! Spent any "bot-time" lately? I've been meaning to work on mine but damn, I've been busier than a cat covering up shit these last few!
Thu, 12 Jul - 08:32:52 63.100.104.10 Post #: 1703
Edd Bigwigs and Bashers and Serge.... OH MY!
Serge,
Thu, 12 Jul - 08:32:18 24.189.159.231 Post #: 1702
Voodoo and I go way back to early Antigua days. When I saw what he had cooking I forced myself into the deal! hahaha Out of the box is the only way to go these days and its prolly the only way of making any "New" money as well! Beauty about it is.. It apeals to both mainstream and adult surfers.. every walk of life from Tommy hiding porn from his Mom to Mike hiding bank statements from his wife! :)~ DragonKing $40 A Pop!!!
I had a friend who showed me a similar product...and the light went on! They had a great idea but were not marketing it directly to the biggest and most natural market - adult websites.
Thu, 12 Jul - 08:31:20 66.68.163.251 Post #: 1701
So where we find a hole, we try to fill it. We signed up some major paysite programs in Vegas to run it in their members areas and market the affiliate program to their 1000's of webmasters. VoodooChile Evidence-Eraser.com - $40/sale and $10 2nd tier payouts!  |