Definition of a guru- A recognized leader in a field

Since I have helped develop several of the billing programs out there, taught classes on the billing companies, and have worked and trouble shot several billing issues for clients that have increased their sign ups by 25% at least in some cases as high as 65%. I believe that I qualify. I also have been asked to speak on at every major show for the last 2 years, not to mention I write for Klixxx and AVNOnline as well as for in the past for Netpond and a few other webmaster resources (mmm I believe that makes me recognized)

MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

Melissa we follow rules there has been NO anon personal attacks.

First Dennis is NOT anon, second no one has made a personal attack on you.



Mike AI What goes around comes around!

Hi im the Hot air Guru
****

Serge, that you ? How many pounds per square inch of hot air is necessary to keep proper inflation in Ego ?

Brujah

Why shouldn't I care whether a long-time friend gets paid ?
***************************

Long time friend, huh?

did you fuck his wife?

I have no long term friends......
Serge (the last bastions of making $$$ are here...)

Do you have a commerical deal in place yet? But since you said you didn't think it would work I don't need an answer - wonder if you think it won't work because I sugguested it?

_________________

Wow that is sooooo weak. I have looked into alternative non-web advertsing a few times. I have my doubts because I have done some research.

BUT it might work, so I would like to look and find out... and if it is feasable, I would work with you.

Business is business.



Mike AI What goes around comes around!

What were you in cell 598 for ?
****************

Serial killing...is that a problem?

will I see you at the show?


Serge (the last bastions of making $$$ are here...)

Dennis is the real deal then why not post who he is? Funny it says in your own rules no anon personal attacks - I believe Dennis was anon personal attack- Don't follow your own rules?

As far as I know I don't have any issues with the AMP. But if they would like to bring some up I'd be happy to discuss them.


MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

Don't ignore the real questions Serge.

What were you in cell 598 for ?

Why shouldn't I care whether a long-time friend gets paid ?

The rest of your comments are just boring insults. They aren't humorous, and they aren't important to anything. They look more like lame attempts at winning an trivial argument because you have no real substance to fight with.

Brujah

Instead of skating the issues
Address them!

Dennis- What issues haven't I addressed?

=================

MikeAI -

I saw the commerical thing Melissa. I do not think it will work, BUT I am curious to see the results of those who do try it. Maybe my opinion will change.
===================

Fair enough - wait and see attitude - but I'm looking at the number of eyeballs and the conversions :) I'm hedging my bets a bit.

Do you have a deal in place already?
________________

What are you talking about?? I am lost.

Do you have a commerical deal in place yet? But since you said you didn't think it would work I don't need an answer - wonder if you think it won't work because I sugguested it?



MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

OK Melissa, simple as I can make it.


What makes you a guru at anything?

What makes you think "nobody is better then you"?


Oh and for the record Dennis is connected with your former friends from down under - I just got an e-mail - he is the real deal.

Funny - and you think I only pick on you because of the APM ( or as CJ claims cause your a girl).


Mike AI What goes around comes around!

What lessons did you learn in lockup that you can share ?


Brujah
************

I learned that moscitos like Bruhaj are only good for ass fuck and you can only let them suck your dick if you put a spoon in their mouth so they couldn't bite.

I am sorry, mate, if I like Meni's blow jobs beter than yours!
Serge (the last bastions of making $$$ are here...)

Hi im the Hot air Guru

Can i be of help?
Hot Air Guru

Serge, you are clueless and stupid.
****************

holy shit!

I'd buy Bill Gates' stake in Microsoft if I could see the light and Brujah's brain!


Serge

Very good spots Melissa and sounds too inexpensive almost! How many spots are available ? What days ? What minimums ? Any rules with the Tours/URLs that are promoted ? Does it have to be clean (no popups, no hardcore) tours ? Any numbers regarding viewership during those spots and past results ?

Brujah

+++++++++++++++++++

Absolutely not going to ignore you -
Osirius is getting his money. Waiting on his phone call.

As far as the spots-

This is test market - so I would say let's keep it as clean as possible, as I believe it was Lensman said "The underwear stays on until the credit card comes out"

I'd like to keep that in the exits as well nothing way too hard core.

As far as the URL's the simplier the better, great for brandmarketing for example "www.strippers.com".

No day limitations 7 days a week. The hours are midnight to 6am (note I have E! as well and you can get spots during the re run of the Howard Stern show.

As far as the pricing goes - actually its about average for those times some cities are higher some are lower I just averaged the price to make it simple.

I'll have the exact demographics on each station for each area and average viewers by hour on Tuesday.

The production costs aren't too bad and very high quality.

Only thing I would sugguest is that you include a phone # as well (900 phone sex number) to capture some of the non computer people (can you believe there are still people like that out there?) I have some deals on that as well (I do try to cover all the basis)
============================

MikeAI if you don't care about the answers then don't bitch about me answering the questions.
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

cell number 598!
******

Hey thats great.
What were you in for Serge ?
What lessons did you learn in lockup that you can share ?


Brujah

I have known Osiris and his wife for years, outside of the adult business.
************

me too!

cell number 598!

good people!
MackTheKnife

mike ai are you a girl?

you and melissa are in some
sort of bitch piss.

it has made me a
Bored Reader

Dennis, you and me shared the cell in Stillwater High Security Prison, Minnesota

Im a jail bird who knows what your about.

SO i can not sit here and listen to all your lies, smoke and mirror tactics.

I do not brag about bank heists, innovations etc that i cannot come thru on..

I dont even brag, nor do drive by shootings like you do, If i feel i cannot contribute to population, then i dont..

I dont need to self promote my self in prison.

I dont need firewoman to brag about it.

I dont whine and cry on the boards..

Your so full of yourself you dont even know it!

WAKE UP!

Instead of skating the issues
Address them!

MackTheKnife

Serge, you are clueless and stupid. You're blind as well, if you think you see through anything I said.

I have known Osiris and his wife for years, outside of the adult business.

You on the other hand, I wouldn't care if you were owed $1.82 or $1,082,000. Why should I ?


Brujah

I saw the commerical thing Melissa. I do not think it will work, BUT I am curious to see the results of those who do try it. Maybe my opinion will change.


Do you have a deal in place already?
________________

What are you talking about?? I am lost.


Mike AI What goes around comes around!

I do care that Osiris hasn't been paid yet :)
**************

Brujah,
you are full of shit!!!!

Are you Osiris' wife to care if he was paid or not?
are you his child???

do you care that I wasn't paid $10.82 cents from Yishai?


YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT,
and I can see thru you.
Serge 37 niche sites to make your momma proud!

Don't feel that you have to be angelic in the snake pit.

Brujah




Pearl?
Mike AI What goes around comes around!

No Melissa i work for myself and im no acclaimed " Guru" thats full of hotair..

----------
I didn't deny anything - yes I was let go from ibill, but its important to note that only one person is still at ibill of all the people I worked for. mmmm

-------
Ask a tough question. You have yet to ask a single question I haven't answered.

-----

Still skating all the ISSUES!

I need a website to prove who i am?
Im a webmaster who knows what your about. SO i can not sit here and listen to all your lies, smoke and mirror tactics.

I do not brag about ideas, innovations etc that i cannot come thru on.. I dont even brag, nor do drive by spam like you do, If i feel i cannot contribute, then i dont..

I dont need to self promote my self.
I dont need fireman to brag about it.

I dont whine and cry on the boards..

Your so full of yourself you dont even know it!

WAKE UP!

Instead of skating the issues
Address them!

Dennis

your partner was fired from god knows how many jobs since 1979 'til 1991,
I couldn't work for longer than 7 months for anybody.

I couldn't get positive reference under the gun!

am I a failure?
___________


Serge good thing I am here to pull you out of the failure spiral! hahaha


Melissa, we can restart this circular debate Tuesday...

I made an off the hand comment that has into 2 days of circular, boring, meaningless drivel. ( I apologize to those who have had to read it.)


Mike AI Oh shit Ed!!!!!

As far as Dennis and your e-mail post away
MelissaD
************

you scared the poor guy!

as for your former employers,
I dropped Greg an e-mail inviting him over, but his mail box is full...
;-(((
Serge 37 niche sites to make your momma proud!

I Noticed MikeAI that my TV Commerical Deal wasn't mentioned.

Not ground breaking enough for you?

Do you have a deal in place already?
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

MelissaD, just for the record.. I personally don't care who you used to work for .. and I don't care why you were fired. I do care that Osiris hasn't been paid yet :) But I'm sure that'll get squared away.

I only care about what deals you have that can be made. So, I hope that you don't ignore my questions below because urine streams need to be measured and compared. :)

If it means anything to you, anyone that says otherwise is a hypocrit. They continue to do business here with many people with their own skeletons and bad faith dealings.

Don't feel that you have to be angelic in the snake pit.

Brujah

What tough questions could I ask you Melissa? I really do not care, you hold no answers that I am interested in.


My point is that you are a self-styled Guru, who has an EGO without any foundation.

You post about magic bullet solutions in billing... and have yet to deliver. You have provided good excuses so far... So Tuesday we can revist this topic.

But I would lay down some good money that you do not deliver anything concrete - and that if it is concrete there are MANY strings attached to the solution.

Remember, I am the Devil's Advocate...


Mike AI Oh shit Ed!!!!!

But of you insist - her employment history I would consider another failure. Being fired from 2 jobs, including one she traveled around the world from would seem like a failure to me.
****************

than congratulations!!!!

your partner was fired from god knows how many jobs since 1979 'til 1991,
I couldn't work for longer than 7 months for anybody.

I couldn't get positive reference under the gun!

am I a failure?
Serge 37 niche sites to make your momma proud!

You keep bring up my past employers MikeAI so you obviously want to discuss it.

What part of "I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE AWAY MY NEW SOLUTION UNTIL I HAVE MY DEAL FINALIZED" didn't you understand- Would it help if I typed slower?

As far as Dennis and your e-mail post away
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

Sorry Dennis - try michael @oprano.com

Guess you are not anonymous afterall.


Mike AI Oh shit Ed!!!!!

Excuse me failures?

MikeAI - I have never done business with you so what would you know of my failures. If my former employers have a problem with me then why aren't they posting?

Let's hear from the APM I'm sure they have tons to share as do I
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

oh boy,
we'll NEVER see another sponsors check again!

Serge 37 niche sites to make your momma proud!

Oops! I think I made MikeAI mad... I wonder if Serge will sweetalk him for me... Go see the Caption Contest NOW just in case I have to change it...

http://www.oprano.com/caption.html

Edd (Sneaky Ninja Webmaster)

http://www.oprano.com/caption.html

Oh shit Ed, thanks!!! No Christmas bonus for you!!!



Mike AI Oh shit Ed!!!!!

Mike AI

Whats your email address?

I know some one who wants to speak to you. ( Reg the Billing Guru)

getting errors sending you email<mike@oprano.com>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. vpopmail (#5.1.1)

<mikeai@oprano.com>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. vpopmail (#5.1.1)




Dennis

Melissa - I really am not interested in your past employment history - I do not think it is the issue.

My issue is that you are a self-anointed Guru - who claims nobody is better.

I think that in itself is the problem. I have yet to see anything innovative, cutting edge, "out of the box" solutions that you have to offer.

My only point...


Mike AI Voting has ended!

Excuse me mike you might want to check your archives because I have posted lots of things I've backed up for example - checks are 3 time more profitable then credit cards, for example getting more sign ups out of you traffic, for example, the benefits of secondary processors. True I do post some fluff, mostly silly commnents about Meni or a joke I've heard so something like that, but who doesn't do that? Not every single one of your posts is of great discussion on a industry wide changes or affects. At least I participate vs. lurk. At least I make an effort to share and discuss topics that affect our industry.

Smoke and mirrors I'm still waiting for those tough questions.
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

Serge, I did not want to make Melissa's failures the issue here. I only wanted to point out that she is a bag of hot air.

But of you insist - her employment history I would consider another failure. Being fired from 2 jobs, including one she traveled around the world from would seem like a failure to me. ( Though she did successfully liberate some computer hardware! hahaha)

The only issue I am trying to focus on is having Melissa come up with something concrete - I guess I will have to wait for Tuesday.

I am just pushing for honesty in advertising, I hradly think "Nobody is better..." is honest as it pertains to Melissa.

Unless she means, Nobody is better at self promotion then me... ( I would still argue some others are better at that too!)
Mike AI Voting has ended!

I DID IT! I DID IT!! I raided MikeAI's private folder on our network and grabbed a picture of him and Serge that NO ONE is supposed to see!! But YOU can see it now because its the latest entry in the CAPTION CONTEST here at Oprano!

http://www.oprano.com/caption.html

Don't wait! Go check it out NOW!!

Edd (Sneaky Ninja Webmaster)

Talk about smoke and mirrors MIkeAI

I didn't deny anything - yes I was let go from ibill, but its important to note that only one person is still at ibill of all the people I worked for. mmmm

Ask a tough question. You have yet to ask a single question I haven't answered.

Anon = no e-mail address no website no affiliations. Dennis has yet to share is personal experience with me?
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

Melissa you have never posted anything you had to back up. That is my point. You only post obvious statements and teases to try and get people interested.

As I have said anyone who is a self appointed GURU, isn't....

If it is too good to be true, it probably is...


Mike AI Voting has ended!

Very good spots Melissa and sounds too inexpensive almost! How many spots are available ? What days ? What minimums ? Any rules with the Tours/URLs that are promoted ? Does it have to be clean (no popups, no hardcore) tours ? Any numbers regarding viewership during those spots and past results ?

Brujah

and blame others for your failures...
***************

Mike, I heard of ONE failure-
Hong Kong hosting,
what are the others?

I didn't go to school and my English is rusty, but "s" means PLURAL isn't it?
Serge (the last bastions of making $$$ are here...)

Melissa are you denying that you were fired from IBill???

How do you know Dennis is an anon?? Just because he is not a regular poster?

Why don't you address his questions rather then worry if if he is anon or not. This is what you do to me - you cannot show us the beef so you go back to smoke and mirrors.


Answer tough questions?? Heck no, not if you are Melissa- instead blame people, accuse people of being anon, or upset because of who I worked with.

You have done everything but shown us the BEEF!!!

I am trying to keep you focused...

I can type slower if it would help.


Mike AI Voting has ended!

Wrong MikeAI

I have backed up EVERYTHING I have posted on my site as well as I have posted on the boards with cold hard facts.

Name one time I haven't backed up what I said- that I didn't provide the stats?

As far as my former employers I have yet to see them post.
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

Note Dennis I post who I am, and how to reach me? I don't have anything to hide. Obviously you do.
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

MikeAI you obviously have a problem with me because of my past relationship with APM, get over it.
________________



Melissa D do you understand English? Did you go to public school?

I could care less about your relationship with the Aussies - hell some of them are the ones who told me how terrible you were as an employee. They also said the father thing is a red herring, that you were canned.

My issue with you is that you are a braggard who backs nothing up. I have no problem with people with EGOS - but only if they have earned them. In my opinion you have not. You are nothing but HOT - stale air.

Where is the BEEF Melissa?

You cannot and do not deliver - and when someone calls you on it you turn it into a piss, and blame others for your failures...


Mike AI Voting has ended!

I like Melissa am an EX IBILL Employee.

+++++++++++++

Let me guess - you left Ibill with the ibill list and went to work for the AMP and got screwed now you're jealous that someone can be sucessfull?

Dennis why hide behind anon? Tell us who you really are?
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

Forest,

Must be the round of golf... it gets out all the frustrations ON THE COURSE.


Monk

Monk,

Agreed...and I am calling off all piss with Evan to while we are at it...

Man who is this guy posting under my tag???

LOL
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does)

Forest,

No problem.

Piss that goes on and on about the same thing gets a little stale.


Monk

Have you seen the "billing Guru"?
************

in 5 mins you gonna see MikeAI and Serge...

http://oprano.com/caption.html

you think anybody gonna do business with us after they see that????

Dennis, I think you are full of shit and jail cell is full of tears for your ass.
Serge (the last bastions of making $$$ are here...)

Monk..

I am Officially call off my piss fest on Meni

Thank you for showing me the light!!!!
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does)

First lets just clear a few things up Dennis

1. I was premium account I handled sales, support, as well as worked with clients to develope new features, not to mention I developed and taught the first and only ibill Training program.


And look at lots of programs they don't have a secondary processor.

And Dennis what do you do?

MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

"Get Off the OBSESSION Train dude"
Forest
*********************************
pot...yadda yadda.... kettle....yadda yadda...black... Meni

Monk

I like Melissa am an EX IBILL Employee.
***********

Mr. Cox, what did "Dennis" steal from you and what are you suing him for?
Serge (the last bastions of making $$$ are here...)

you sound like a jilted lover, to tell you the truth.

-----

Have you seen the "billing Guru"?

Nuff Said..


Dennis

I like Melissa am an EX IBILL Employee.

I also know to stay far away from melissa d and her dealings..
Dennis

Yes Mike I was out securing deals that will rock this industry - what were you doing? pissing on the boards?
MelissaD
*************

no, he was rocking Sabby, and in a few minutes the proof will be shown at
http://oprano.com/captions.html
Serge (the last bastions of making $$$ are here...)

Dennis... how about identifying yourself, your affiliations, past businesses, current businesses, before starting rumors and such. what are you, deep throat? provide a little credibility and maybe someone will give you an ear.

you sound like a jilted lover, to tell you the truth.

grimm

As far as the hong kong hosting well the risks were very up front and funny thing several other people who are hosting there haven't had any problems
****************************

That's not what I heard from horce's mouth speaking chinese...
Serge

Dennis, Melissa is not here, care to talk with me instead or are you a chicken?

"Were is your "mentor" webfather or who ever else backing you up?
"

so, talk to me, my luv, get it of your hairy chest.
Serge

Well I would say congratulations to the caption winner but it's Sykkboy so instead I'll just say...

FUCK YOU!!!

:>))




TheEnforcer Shouldn't you be Making Bank??

Dennis..
Get Off the OBSESSION Train dude
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does)

Congrats Sykkboy on the caption contest!!

Get with Brad he will hook you up with a credit for $200 at http://freshphotos.com


Mike AI Voting has ended!

First of all Dennis (who is afraid to post anything but anon) I was not fired from Filthy I left to come back to the states and take care of my father.

Second I didn't steal anything - the laptop was returned last Oct.

Third as far as resources and webmaster etc. I haven't taken a thing nor would I, I don't do business like that.

As far as the hong kong hosting well the risks were very up front and funny thing several other people who are hosting there haven't had any problems

Bottom line is this - I don't have to prove anything to anyone except the people I do business with. MikeAI I've never done business with you, so how can you say I'm all smoke and mirrors?

Dennis I haven't ever done business with you either.

As I have said before no amount of goading will get me to give away my new solution until I get my fees established.

And as I have said before - I don't have to prove anything to anybody but my clients. I only post things on the board I can prove and provide stats and facts on unlike other people.

MikeAI you obviously have a problem with me because of my past relationship with APM, get over it.

As far as rocking this industry here you go:

TV Spots for sale in the following metro areas:

Chicago
Houston
Atlanta
New York
Philadephia
Portland
San Antonio
San Francisco
Seattle
Washington DC
Austin
Balimore
Baton
Burmingham
Cincinnati
Cleveland
Columbus
Lexington
Louisville
Los Angeles
Miami
Milwaukee
Minnesota
New Orleans
Norfolk
Olkahoma City
Omaha

Following Stations:
ESPN
MTV
TNT
TNN
TBS
ESPN-2
SCFI
FX
USA
Comedy Channel
Bravo
Discovery
Lifetime
VH1
MSBC
And several others

From Midnight to 6am.

60 second spots run between $35-45 a spot.

Here are the rules:

Bikini
No nasty 7 words
Clear product sale


I'm selling $5K blocks I have production packages fro $5K, $10K, $15K including talent, (unless a specific star is need - ie Jenna or Danni)

Don't like what I say - fine don't do business with me.

Serious inquiries only
15566387 ICQ or e-mail Melissa@billinguru.com

Yes Mike I was out securing deals that will rock this industry - what were you doing? pissing on the boards?
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

Dennis,
I know Dennis the Menace and you are not him.

When I ask
"Who is Dennis",
people ask:
"Dennis who?"

who are you, Dennis?
Serge

Dennis, you sound like a fireman who couldn't get it up...

now,
how exactly do YOU fit into the story you are breaking up?

I, for example, know Greg Lasardo personally, broke bread with him, spoke with him about business, got thank you notes,
and who are you?

Serge

BillinGuru is a consulting firm specializing in online adult community. By providing a consulting service to not only satisfy your billing needs, but traffic, programming, hosting, design, customer service, and various other technical requirements.

------

Im a sucker "Billing Guru"

How much is all of this going to cost?

I have asked around, when your name is spoken about, people laugh and laugh.
Dennis

MONEY!

*Increase conversions by at least 10%

Each sign up on a straight site is worth an average of $56.83 on a 100 signup/day site
10% = $568.30/day x 365 days = $207,429.50 annually
*By adding an appropriate secondary billing company increasing signups by at least 15%

15% = $852.45/day x 365 days = $311,144.25 anually


*Reducing chargebacks, refunds and revokes by at least 5%

*Optimizing traffic

increase retention
selling traffic
up sells/down sells/cross sells

--------------

I need the "Billing Guru" to tell me this?

Tell me what sucker uses your " services"?
Dennis

Were is your "mentor" webfather or who ever else backing you up?

You were customer support at ibill
then support for filthycash, Now your a self proclaimed Guru and Traffic Broker?

I guess anyone can call them selves a " Traffic Broker" nowadays..

Who would do deals with you?

Anyone here want to step and tell me, why i should waste my time or money with you?

Your track record speaks for itself..

How is all the stolen material you took from au? is it of any help?

Is Greg Lasrado still suing you for the materials and computer you stold from him?

Please enitce us with more smoke and mirrors..


Dennis

Sykk .. yer on my list, ya fuck!

Grimm is too fuck'n nice ;)
Colin Fishy Statistics?

Were is the self proclaimed "billing Guru"?

I bet she is securing deals that will ROCK this industry..

Im Cur, Why did IBILL FIRE YOU?

Maybe someone should call Bob Cox and ask?

Why did Greg Lasrado can you?

Why did you steal?

Im glad your finally being called out!

Good Job Mike!

Dennis

heheh Edd, I was postng same time as you were :)

maybe THIS will get me on http://www.isjustanasshole.com ? ;)))
SykkBoy soon to feature hot content from FreshPhotos :)

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http://isjustanasshole.com/

how am i still #15?

do i have to commit a hate crime?
grimm Xingster
Fri, 31 Aug 2001 05:21:09 - IP: 24.14.133.26 - Post # 15217
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I'm not even on the list yet...hmmm, guess it's time to "turn it up a notch" ;)))
SykkBoy stranger in a strange land

Congratulations Sykkboy! You've won the Oprano Caption Contest! Go see the other entries at http://www.oprano.com/caption.html - and the NEXT photo (coming shortly) promises to have EVEN more potential for Pithy sayings that this last one!

(A little personal shout out to JoeE for having such a great sense of humour this last week!)

Don't touch that dial - the new caption contest is MOMENTS away....
Edd (Sneaky Ninja Webmaster)

Forest .. just got yer message.

Call me now if you still want to talk .. I have to be somewhere at 7.


Sorry 'bout the tag .. it's a cj thing, baby ;)
Colin Click Here for Fuckin' Colin Links (NEW! FREE!)

Since I dumped Serge, I am availble for bj scenes, I suck a mean dick.

Meni
*******

Meni, please come back,
let's kiss each other in the ass and you make a blow job again....


Serge (the last bastions of making $$$ are here...)

Grimm..

I shall shout it from the HIGHEST mountains for U mano..

Great Work...

All this TGP2 stuff just gettttsss meee soooooooo EXCITED..heheh
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) Cuz Free Willi is better than No Willi at ALLLLL

Forest..thanks:)
grimm Xingster

OK, I've found him on another board. The moron of morons. The subject of his post was: Any Webmasters want to run your own high traffic site?

this is his first post:
I started a site called freehun.com, which has grown to about 1,000hits/day and is making a bit of money, but I need an experienced webmaster to help, that's why I started this thread.

I'm just wondering if there is any webmasters out there that know allot about adult site design and want to become partners in designing a high traffic TGP site. I would supply domain names, and an unlimited bandwidth host, plus content and traffic. I just don't have time to run the whole site, plus I lack experience in site design. That's why I need a web designer as a partner.
So leave me a message if your interested or have any questions.

PS. To people that are going to flame me about my domain name, please don't, because thehun is helping me change my domain name at the end of the month.
*******
but to fully enjoy the stupidity and the audacity of this guy, you need to read the entire thread. It just gets better and better.
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/cgi-bin/postdisplay.cgi?forum=Forum1&topic=007843


Red ( Oprano Text Therapist) Words to sell sex by

Grimmmmm

WOWOWOWOW

=)~~~~~~~~~

http://www.xingster.com/


Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) Cuz Free Willi is better than No Willi

http://isjustanasshole.com/

how am i still #15?

do i have to commit a hate crime?
grimm Xingster

thanks sharky:)
grimm Xingster

meni...no , i dont.

grimm Xingster

Grimm, remember that time in Vegas, we were fucking around in the elevator, and that old couple caught us!!!

Meni Jenna Cash

Grimm -

Xingster is looking good;-)P


sharky Stay Tuned for Something New From MaxCashLive!

"There was plenty of business to be done if you could catch people before 8pm, after that it was lights out! "

Oddly I got most of my biz after 8PM... but before Midnight when most were off partying:-))

It was great seeing you Brad..

and of course you MikeFold:-)
sharky Stay Tuned for Something New From MaxCashLive!

Sucks missing Miami,

Glad to see everyone is home safe and sound.
SusieS Adult Cash Flow

hahahahaha FOLD!!!


You and IP are my new golf Heros!!!!
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does) Cuz Free Willi is better than No Willi at ALLLLL

Airline Tickets: 686.00
Hotel Room: 1768.00
Donations: 3700.00

Kicking IP's butt, seeing old friends, and meeting new ones:
Priceless

Made 1 (one) deal that made this trip MORE than worth it.

OldFold MaxCash Rocks

Or a nice one
grimm Xingster

Brad let me know when you are start up Deep Oral Boys.

Since I dumped Serge, I am availble for bj scenes, I suck a mean dick.

Meni Jenna Cash

I repeat, I was not picking on Fay.

Serge, you have my real ssn.
And you had my real LOVE

but its over my friend

You will miss my blowjobs
Meni Jenna Cash

I agree, a show is what you make out of it. Me, I hate Miami and am pretty sick of most idiots in our business, so I went to Miami with a bad attitude.

Some people tried to talk business, but I could not get myself in the right mindframe! I said call me at the office in a week.

There was plenty of business to be done if you could catch people before 8pm, after that it was lights out!

Brad Shaw Deep Oral Girls

KK you do not even want to get me started about YOUR hair... since you cut it all off.

I guess KK will stand for Kenny Ken??

hahahaha


Mike AI Voting will shut down at 5pm Cental Time!!!!

Quit talking about my hair you sexist, AI!

;)

Bottom line regarding Fays show or any other -- it is what you make of it -- I've been to some really pitiful gatherings over the years, no names, and all it takes is one or two people getting together and working out a deal to make it worth stopping by -- Fays job is to get the people to the show, not to make the deals for people.
KK

Hey Sabby you do not think I am a sexist do you???


http://www.oprano.com/caption.html

Have you Voted Sabby???





Mike AI Voting will shut down at 5pm Cental Time!!!!

I heard a rumor that the show was so quiet, you could hear crickets?
true?
hee hee
Meni Jenna Cash
Fri, 31 Aug 2001 02:45:19 - IP: 24.218.204.233 - Post # 15190
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Meni I agree with you. This is not picking on Fay at all. This was stating a business opinion.

If you would have commented that Fay has bad hair, or only dates blind fireman, that would be picking on her.*


* note these are random ideas having nothing to do with the real Fay Sharp or my opinion of her.

:-)


Mike AI Voting will shut down at 5pm Cental Time!!!!