no, I gave a few reasons as to why you are not worth wasting time on - I RARELY make sexism issues out of anything ... that is simply 1 of the points I made.

but ... do go on, personal attacks are your specialty! (now pipe back with 'my attacks are never personal, they are all business related') (To which I will reply 'what is using words like pathetic and clueless'?)

I agree with you on one thing, 'nobody is better than me' appears egotistical and silly without the video to accompany it. The cd containing all of my vegas video is somewhere over the pacific ocean, or lost on the floor of either australian or american postal services. Chalk yourself up a point on that one.




cj

Great looking design Grimm. Cant wait to hear how TGP2 does after you launch that :)


Star Gramma Knows Best!

He's made it clear he has very little respect for women in business in the past and you know he has a chip on his shoulder with us Melissa because of our past with the apm. He will never give us any respect no matter how many times we prove we have valuable information.
________________


HAHAHAHA I am woman hear me blabber like a fool!

Instead of dealing with real issues ( When is Melissa going to prove that she has some real ability rather then just hot air) you immediatel rely on labeling me as a bigot against women.


Ask around - I love women. Hell I bet I have women on my staff that make more money then both you CJ and Melissa. ( I am not talking about talent either)


When you cannot back up an arguement with facts, you have to rely upon labeling people with names... hahaha


Mike AI

CJ how pathetic you are...

When I question a female in this industry, to show me the beef instead of joining me and asking Melissa to PROVE her status as a guru - you turn this into a "sexism" issue.

What a fool you are!! ( Oh and I say this as a human being not as you being a woman) That is so lame... I guess you are the female porn Jesse Jackson! haha

I treat everyone as equals - color, sex, religion, sexual orientation none of that matters to me... I only discriminate against MORONS.

You mention the Nobody is Better then Me is an inside joke - well not being an insider how do I know it is meant as a joke?

The only joke here is that Melissa has never proven her capacity to do anything but to promote HERSELF. And you come out blindly jumping to her defense using the excuse that I mistreat women.

HAHAHA You have no idea... you my dear are clueless.


Mike AI

ulfie..thanks, well leave it there just in case;)
grimm Xingster...Sneak preview

'nobody is better than me' is actually a joke between a group of us that started in vegas - I am working on editing the video. Its very funny :-)

>>you would actually find that I have shared quite a bit of valuable information on oprano.

MikeAI only wants to hear the valuable information of his own products and his buddies. He's made it clear he has very little respect for women in business in the past and you know he has a chip on his shoulder with us Melissa because of our past with the apm. He will never give us any respect no matter how many times we prove we have valuable information. Mel, best is not to bother. Some people will never give you an opportunity to change their opinion of you. These are the people who cause you the most stress, for the least benefit or reason. :-(

Its lucky oprano has serge, or it would still be YNOTTOPPOND :-)))

cj

Grimm, looks great! Created an account for me without problems. I won't be using it so you can delete it but it worked just fine.

Ulfie

Melissa you have not backed anything up - you are nothing but lame rhetoric.

Then you run off to go to bed.

LAME LAME LAME...



I will be here - and I will keep asking - "Where's the beef?"

Waiting for you to deliver... to show that there is nobody better!

hahaha


Mike AI Domain names at fair prices!

HAHAHA I have nothing to promote Melissa - I am not saying you suck, and I rule.

Hell I suck - I am not holding myself out as a Guru, or better then anyone else unlike you.

All you spit out is words... empty words. Smoke and mirrors... I think we should give you a new nickmale... "slight of hand Melissa"



HYPE HYPE HYPE

You have not proved anything, except that you are full of yourself, your ego is as large as mine ( say it ain't so), and that you are a Guru of hot air.

It is impossibel for someone to prove a negative. Of course you knew this, and you rely upon this to try and find customers...

Hey I bet you can make the Statue of Liberty dissapear as well huh?

hahaha

Smoke and mirrors...

I don't want to piss - I want you to show us something that makes you a guru. To show us why Nobody is better then you.

WHERE'S THE BEEF???




Mike AI Domain names at fair prices!

I noticed you didn't comment on the fact that I said there wasn't anything I have posted that I couldn't back up.

I'm off to bed.


MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

melissa..wont let you sign up?

we are working out the bugs here before launch, i appreciate all input...


grimm Xingster...Sneak preview

MikeAI

You are of course entitled to your opionions, of course if you stopped for a minute of pissing and trying to bring down everyone but yourself (isn't that self promotion) you would actually find that I have shared quite a bit of valuable information on oprano.

As far as BillinGuru - well its all about marketing.

As far "Nobody is Better Than Me" its yet to be disproved by anybody including you.
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

Oh Melissa D, I know you BELEIVE your own hype - but I subcribe to the theory that anyone who calls themselves a Guru - usually is not.

Anyone who puts, "Nobody is better then me!" I feel is probably best at SELF PROMOTION and nothing more...

I have yet to see you post any REAL information... just more smoke and mirrors.


Mike AI Domain names at fair prices!

As far as my billing solution I gave my resons for not further discussing it. I will note that they are very successfull in the non adult areana.
______________

As someone used to say....

*** YAWN ***



Mike AI Domain names at fair prices!

but it won't let me :(
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

Grimm looks great I just signed up. I've been converted :)
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

try it now

http://www.xingster.com
grimm Xingster...Sneak preview

temporary difficulties.. please stand by;)


grimm Xingster...Sneak preview

MikeAI I don't believe I have ever posted anything on oprano that I haven't been able to back up.

Its your decision to let business walk out your door.

As far as webmasters that have gay sites looking for help on this board I wasn't commenting on I only asked for feedback on the www.cyberspasm.com which happens to be a board that covers gay sites, I asked for feedback on the articles, the lay out, the usefulness.

As far as your combativeness - mmm comments like "calling me on my bullshit" aren't combative at all?

As far as my billing solution I gave my resons for not further discussing it. I will note that they are very successfull in the non adult areana.
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

http://espn.go.com/boxing/news/2001/0830/1246019.html

Did anyone see this?? I just saw it on sportscenter - I think it was pre-planned - a setup. If it was a real fight they would have been swinging, and not just hugging each other.

They did put on a good show - I am sure it will help ticket sales!


Mike AI Domain names at fair prices!

George, ok, it's more like 99.5%. ;)



Ulfie

"As for Oprano, I do not see many gay programs or webmasters who run gay sites looking for any help... and if need be, Serge can handle it. "

We could have some fun with that one. : )

Um was starting a gay site, does anyone know whether a full erection sells better than a...

hehe And you thought running an adult chat board was gonna be all cake didn't ya! ; ))))

j/k
Catman

Ulfie - let's work on that reluctant 5%. I think I better send you more pictures of what you'll be missing if you don't come.

Watch for new website of available "models".

george Asian Amazons

http://www.xingster.com

Makes 3 of us....
Mike AI Domain names at fair prices!

Mutt thanks - I like to think I am compasionate...

I like to discuss issues not personalities! I guess some people have issues with that and take it personally when they have nothing to bring to the table but smoke and mirrors.
Mike AI Domain names at fair prices!

Can't get to http://www.xingster.com either.

Ulfie

Since MikeAI is always compative with me I would always listen to Serge, he hasn't steered me wrong yet.
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Melissa I am hardly combative, I just call you on your bullshit. If you see that as combative, well that is on you.

I personally think your billing system you are talking about is a figment of your imagination, or some sort of exageration, or has lots of strings attatched to make it unfeasable for the prudent businessman.

I firmly beleive if it seems to good to be true, it probably is!





MikeAI are you saying you don't have any gay traffic? Are you sure? Are you saying you don't care about the webmaster who has gay sites?
__________________


I have NO doubt that of the hundreds of thoudsands of surfers who stop by my sites, a fair percentage of them are gay. In the past we have advertised and tried to capture the market, and with our model it hurt our business. Therefore, I just let it slide - and focus on what I know works.

As the CEO of HiRise, I could care less about the gay market... :-)
As for Oprano, I do not see many gay programs or webmasters who run gay sites looking for any help... and if need be, Serge can handle it.




Mike AI No .SEX .XXX .SCAM here!

Final score:

Steelers 20
Bills 0

I'm actually looking forward to football season now. ;)

George, I'm about 95% certain I'll be there for new years. You'll hear from me when the reservations have been made. :)


Ulfie

can't get to http://www.xingster.com

put up the IP address, maybe it's not resolving everywhere
mutt

MelissaD - yeah Phi Phi is in Krabi, a really fantastic spot.

http://hotelthailand.com/phiphi/phiphi.html

george Asian Amazons

Meni

Give me a shout when you read this.


MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

Last time we stayed out on an island Phi Phi?
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

mutt - is that the Dead Kennedys your referring to, or one of the millions of living relations?

Your probably being sarcastic but Phuket is one of the official jet set spots on this planet.

For your common everyday sex tourist the preferred beach destination is Pattaya.

george Asian Amazons

Give me a little feedback on what yall think

http://www.xingster.com
grimm Xingster...Sneak preview

Serge...

Nice to have your insightful comments an ascerbic wit back...I was missing them on the more generic boards..
letshunt I am just too pretty

MelissaD - where in Phuket do you like to stay ?

Serge had a bad experience at the Amanpuri. (it is overpriced and a bit far from the action).

george Asian Amazons

I think the Kennedys summer in Phucket.
mutt

Go Webfather!!

Can I give you a list of other sites I want broken? What are your fees??

Phuket is my favorite place in Thailand :)
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

Hooper - I live a short ways from Pattaya these days, but have been based out of Bangkok for over 20 years.

Serge - sawasdee ka is the feminine hello/goodby affirmative. Males have to say kap (the masculine affirmative)

george Asian Amazons

he also broke porno.com and admittance.com...
;-(((
Serge

Sandy, Webfather broke Netpond..
;-(((
Serge

how come netpond has been down all day?
Sandy

lol serge..


Sharky It's the "FreeSite GamePlan, Part 2"

George... you're from Thailand?

Where in thailand? Got some very good friends in bangkok :-)
Hooper

We hit Charleys steak house next time:-))


Sharky
**********

HERE come another 12 pounds each...
;-)))
Serge

George,
pleasure to see you made it in one piece back to Thailand!

sadeekaa...
;-)
Serge

"Sharky how can I even think about decent food at Hooters when you treat me to Burns, then 2 days later BBQ me some great steaks?


Mike AI "


Well.. you got me there!!!

We hit Charleys steak house next time:-))


Sharky It's the "FreeSite GamePlan, Part 2"

Since MikeAI is always compative with me I would always listen to Serge,
MelissaD
=================================

I think Melissa meant to say 'Since MikeAI is always comPASSIONATE with me........


Nobody is more compassionate than Mike!!!
mutt

Serge by your own admission
*****************************

Hey, Mike,
I am in the board business now,
I'll admit to ANYTHING!

name it and I'll admit it!
;-)))
Serge

Sharky how can I even think about decent food at Hooters
**********

I just came from Hooters...
Hooters suck!

I'm not coming back there, they disapointed me, Freddy!
Serge

Serge/Mike... how are you guys?
Tukhman
*********

Tukh,
we are doing fine!

Not enought sex for me because I don't want it and not enought sex for Mike because of the blisters on the palms...

we both gained extra 12 pounds each!
Serge

finding that people who aren't having sex, but want to, are frustrated and unhappy.
*********

MikeAI,
the key word is WANT TO

I don't want to have sex and nothing you can do to make me want it!

TRY ME!
;-)))
Serge

Sorry the correct word is combative.
MelissaD
***********

you apologising to Mike for wrong spelling????

he'll walk all over you for that!
;-))
Serge

MikeAI are you saying you don't have any gay traffic? Are you sure? Are you saying you don't care about the webmaster who has gay sites?
**********

Melissa, there is no a single site on the net which doesn't have ANY gay traffic.

I was buying 95% of straight traffic, and selling 20% of gay traffic.

Where do you think the extra 15% came from?

link on the bottom of landing page
for straight traffic saying-
Gyas click here!

MikeAI DOES have gays, even if he doesn't like to admit it!
;-))
Serge

Sorry the correct word is combative.
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

Since MikeAI is always compative with me I would always listen to Serge, he hasn't steered me wrong yet.

I want to finalize some things before I spill my guts (lock in my referral fee)

Truth be told I'm a terrible tease :)

MikeAI are you saying you don't have any gay traffic? Are you sure? Are you saying you don't care about the webmaster who has gay sites?

Please explain.

Sorry for the delayed response - but I had to go get my toes done - PRIORITIES!
MelissaD (Nobody is better than me!)

Main Entry: schizo·phre·nia <http://www.m-w.com/images/audio.gif>
Pronunciation: "skit-s&-'frE-nE-&
Function: noun
Etymology: New Latin
Date: 1912
1 : a psychotic disorder characterized by loss of contact with the environment, by noticeable deterioration in the level of functioning in everyday life, and by disintegration of personality expressed as disorder of feeling, thought (as in hallucinations and delusions), and conduct -- called also dementia praecox
2 : contradictory or antagonistic qualities or attitudes <both parties... have exhibited schizophrenia over the desired outcome -- Elizabeth Drew>
Hooper The Best Dialer In The Universe!

Just in case anyone wants to get in touch with me I thought I would correct the previously cocked-up link.

Forest - I won't be able to hang out here too much because of the dial-up situation so please send me an e-mail (on present status). Thank you.

george Asian Amazons

Nick, I think Skitz has been going as Davey Hustle (too)??

I'm soo confused ;)
SykkBoy Blissfulbodies.com joins the DD team on Monday :)

I mean .. some of the MAJOR sponors have a seemingly infinite number of consoles and this must be contributing to the overall decline in sign-up ratios in addition to some of the other reasons I discussed.
**********************************
"Through diligence XPays earned enough Gold Bar Point to net a Harley Davidson Motorcycle courtesy of Traffic Cash Gold"

Ohhhhhhh....so that is where my xpays signups went....gotcha! DUHH
webslave

Hi,Just got in....

a couple of questions burn in my mind,nothing important really,its just driving me nuts.

1.)Why does skitz call himself stuntal now?
2.)Why do I care?
Nickatilynx (The Internet's No1 Crook (Alledgedly))

Colin - let's face it, all the smart operatorts know (or have convinced themselves) that you can't make a buck without cheating someone or abusing them. The problem is that there are now thousands of smart operators as opposed to only a handful a few years ago. So the known variables have become more viciuos for those who have a need to succeed.

Without regulation things will not change, but who will be the regulators ?


george http://asinamazons.com

Just got back from Miami in one piece, thank god!

But before I got back, had to stop by the mid-west ;-))) That was fun! ;-)

Going through all the e-mails, too many of them.. please be patient ;-)

Serge/Mike... how are you guys?
Tukhman According to C**D*D 2/3's of buisness gone... how can we afford lambos then?:-))))

Serge - has anyone taken you to Biffs ? The view may not be too good but the burgers (and barbeque sandwiches) are incredible.

Serge, Dan (the man), Dravyk, Forest, Ulfie, etc. - I am back in Thailand and preparing things for your immanent arrival on these shores. The girls say it's OK you can come any time you like.

This dial up line nonesense is really pissing me off after four months of cable in the US. Oh well. Later.

george http://asinamazons.com

After I wrote this week's Ask Colin article on why the business is getting so difficult it was pointed out to me today that the average sponsor's site is a bigger popup hell than my circle-jerks used to be.

I mean .. some of the MAJOR sponors have a seemingly infinite number of consoles and this must be contributing to the overall decline in sign-up ratios in addition to some of the other reasons I discussed.

I believe it was CJ that said the
surfer must be re-educated they they have to pay for good porn.

Pay site operators are teaching the surfer that it is NOT safe to click on a banner.

Free site operators should not have the entire burden of trying to improve this industry. Pay site operators need to shoulder some of that responsibility too.



Colin Ask Colin

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,33339,00.html

Serge by your own admission this might be the reason you are so grouchy! ;-))
Mike AI Sharky did you vote???

Sharky how can I even think about decent food at Hooters when you treat me to Burns, then 2 days later BBQ me some great steaks?


Mike AI Sharky did you vote???

MikeAI -

depends on what you have..

You have to have the original wings and request the BBQ sauce with it.

the BBQ sauce is awesome!
Sharky It's the "FreeSite GamePlan, Part 2"

Serge while in Tampa I drove to Clearwater and dined at the original hooters...

Food is not that good, view was nice though...



Mike AI Lola, la la la Lola...

Whose Dinner?? yours? mine?? or zhoras?
*********

let's just leave it at
"After Dinner"
;-))
Serge

I went to Hooters wiht Mojo, 12 Clicks and Tom for the first time in my life yesterday and today this is a fucking topic of conversation!

I'm telling you, spys are EVERYWHERE!
get rid of them!
http://lavasoftusa.com

thanks again, Cat!

I'm going there agin tonite,
I LOVE the food and...h o o t e r s
;-)))
Serge

Stuntal,
all I have to say to you is:
Serge

"but I forgot, you only go to hooters. "

Serge, are you going to Hooters without me?


Sharky It's the "FreeSite GamePlan, Part 2"

Looks like its another close race for the best caption !

http://www.oprano.com/caption03vote.html


Billy (Oprano Sergeant at Arms) Vote Now

Stuntal, for a former New Yorker you are rather dull....

Since when Jews drink Pepsi????

Jews only drink Coke, Pepsi boycots Israel and no self respecting jew ever drinks it!

************************************
Serge I am not rude enough to be from NY,nor do I sound like I am whinning when I talk.
Every time you go to burger king or wendy's you drink pepsi,but I forgot, you only go to hooters.
As far as tv is concerned,Serge here is your big break hosting a sex show. You could even have someone like Dr Ruth on as a guest. Serge has a pissing match with DR Ruth
stuntal

I'll explain after dinner
;_)))
Serge
__________

Whose Dinner?? yours? mine?? or zhoras?



Mike AI Rock the Vote and make a mint!

I'll explain after dinner
;_)))
Serge

HAHAHA Serge, from what I remember about Zhora, I would think JoeE was the father. Of coure Zhora is male so I am not sure how that would work out...


Mike AI I did it - now its your turn!

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======================

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every poster will be given delete button to delete ANY post he wants to delete!
(works on Sundays posts only)

please take this unique opportunity and spam your heart out and delete your competitors spam!

Our programmers were working on it for 3 weeks and it's finally completed!

Hooper, thanks for beta testing, man!

Serge

Serge,

Why did I delete your post?
Hooper
***********

you did it in spite!

the same way you deleted 150 posts the other day!

I'll never trust you with delete button again!
Serge

Rules were made to be broken ;)))
KISS
**********

KISS,
Mikelikes you and he bended me over and the rules...
darn!
I might have a second puppy from Zhora to look just like Mike!
;-))

I love ya....

Serge

Infact I have some other photos that show you having MUCH closer physcial contact with Mel then I ever had with Emi...
********************

of course you do...

and I have Zhora's puppy who looks just like you!
;-)))

things people say on this board is Unbelievable!


Serge

Anybody else going to Vegas this weekend?
Hooper Only $13,994 To Go! Be A Sport & Contribute!

Serge,

Why did I delete your post?
Hooper Only $13,996 To Go! Be A Sport & Contribute!

OOps I just seen

Rules were made to be broken ;)))



KISS

coffee break is over

KISS
********

buzzzzzzzzzz!!!

offending word!!

The offending post has been deleted by Hooper!
Serge

KISS though I am not familure with you, I am already liking you! ;-)


Mike AI Serge did it - now its your turn!

Sabby,
E tu Brutus?
;-))
Serge

BTW, KISS, when you get back to NY
******************

Serge will be a while but Im sure we can plan something nearer the time.

Ok back to work, coffee break is over

KISS

Alien I think Catman has something - you should start your own shop. You have graphic skills - there are a lot of people who are in the side of the business making mint!

hell the top designers have almsot a MONTH + wait now...

I know you must be busy, taking AOL and Microsoft down... but take some time out for yourself. :-)
Mike AI Come on - what are you waiting for???

Serge I could have Mel post anything I want! :-) Infact I have some other photos that show you having MUCH closer physcial contact with Mel then I ever had with Emi...

Maybe that is why Emi is still around and Mel is not!!

I blame YOU Serge! hahaha


Mike AI Come on - what are you waiting for???

Hey....
Keep me out of this!!!!

Sabby:)
Sabrina

Hooper, take your Prozak and stick it up your dialer!
;-)
Serge

darn, now 2 hit me below the belt!

MikeAI, where did you find this KISS to gang up on me???
;-)))

2 on one-
this is NOT fair!
Serge

I'll throw ANYTHING your way if you can get me the pic of
MikeAI having
http://sexwithsabrina.com
***************

I cant comply Mike and I see eye to eye on too many points :)))

As for the Tease just call me Rob and your mind will keep the status quo ;))
KISS

Prozac Anyone?
Hooper --> Can You Handle THIS? <--

I know of a few webmisstresses.. ; ))
********

Cat, are you talking about Dusty again?
;-))
Serge (Hosting, anyone? Get is from chr0nic master!)

"Silver Tongue Serge" - That cracked me up! : )))
Catman
**********

Cat, when you become impotent and practice nothing but cunilingus for 3 years straight-
you gona become "silver tongue" too!
;-)))
Serge

Good afternoon

"I never been brave enough to go on with my own business"

Alien, None of my biz but you seem like a sharp fellow with good web understanding. Why not start your own biz and "enter the long woods". You may have a few thorn patches and hills to climb at first but the real secret to getting ahead in life is over time. Why give your time to someone else. In a few years your looking good.

There has never been an easier business to get in to on your own.
I never even considered working for anyone. First thing I did was decide on a business name and go for it. I may not have made as much at this point as working for someone successful but the curve is now closer to it's apex and my work for myself is now starting to pay off. But it takes time.

Just a thought I wanted to bounce off ya. You may be doing real well working for others and that is cool. Certainly starting out today is not as easy as it was 3-4 years back.

But, if you can keep your ship floating on what you have today and keep expenses low it can be done. And someday your sitting pretty instead of being let go.

The beauty of being your own boss - noone can EVER let you go. ; )

---

I know of a few webmisstresses.. ; )) But I'm pretty much a dirty ole man at this point. ; )

---

"Silver Tongue Serge" - That cracked me up! : )))
Catman

BTW, KISS, when you get back to NY,
let's have a drink at Olive Tree in Village, and talk about your new sites, if you promise not to tease me anymore-
I'm weak and MikeAI is watching!
;_))
Serge