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Meni,
http://www.cumshack.com/serge.htm

yes, brings tears to my eyes....

I miss those millions of dollars a month days....
;-)))

anybody wanna cry their hearts with me????

I have a BIG shoulder...
;_))

http://www.oprano.com/caption.html

hahahhahha!
Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!) my shoulders to cry on... ;-))

JD
my friend
I'm almost in Tears

Meni Jenna Cash

Billy,

Hit me on icq, super pics business.

;-))

VegasLee Come to the BootCamp. I am not Serge but pwt can be entertaining!

John Bennett,
pleasure talking to you again!

Welcome to Oprano!

I'm sure we ALL will be impressed with your new program!

shoot the banner
;-)))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!)

Forest,
I sent this Pearl to ED!
;-))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!)

"Welcome to the Future Dude" .. i was always hoping I would one day say that to MYSELF.

Problem is .. everytime it gets here .. it seems like the present.
Colin
Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:15:01 - IP:
24.164.51.72 - Post # 263

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Here is a pearl from the tgp2 board!
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does)

Yawn.. this is too fucking earlyto be up!!

:((

TheEnforcer Shouldn't you be Making Bank?

Meni,

your still around? Figured some stripper had laid you to rest by now :)

Baklava anyone?
DJ-JD Fetish Depot

Serge, buddy, memories
http://www.cumshack.com/serge.htm
I'm going thru my old sites changing SIC codes, and see some of your old links
Meni Jenna Cash

Tonda,

I was on a 1yr stoner spree, but ran out of papers...

Nah, really just been busy, not too much time for the boards :)
DJ-JD Fetish Depot

"Vick, you call it "SHAKEOUT"???????"

Had to call it something ;-)
Can't happen quick enough for me

"Does it make me PornRepublican? "
Maybe a PornDarwinist

Vick Let the money do the talking

and serge double post again...LOL
Forest (Pithy is as pithy does)

ahhhh....why does it look very nostalgic today?
;_))

faces, faces...
;_))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!)

OMG JD where the hell did you come from:)

I haven't talked to you in forever!!

Good morning everyone!
Tonda Needs Feeds? One week free no bs!

Firefighting fan!! LMAO

is all I'm going to say this morning, that and I'm going back to bed.

:)
MelissaD Nobody is better than me!

Serge,

Thanks for the heads up, you were right, all the "oldies" are around here :)

Anyway, I need a few fresh sponsors to shoot some traffic at. Drop me a mail with your sponsor, but none of those monthly payout ones.

Back to my cave,
JD
DJ-JD Fetish Depot

say I love him for BOTH!
***********

OK, I got it!!!

your right brain half is in love with the intellect,
your left brain half is a brain half of a whore!

hahahhahahahahha!!!!

I wish there were more "rights" and lesser "lefts" brains in the world
;-))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!)

but we LOVE BigGuy anyway for his BRAINS, not his MONEY!
;-)))
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I am honest enough to say I love him for BOTH! Before I met General I was a millionaire. HE made me multi-millionaire! MUCH better! :-))

In General we trust.....

:-)))

Webfather Tickets are free

Webfather, only 2???????

you've seen nothing yet,
I see way for more on the horizon!
;-)))

one thing people forget-
OPRANO is not here because MikeAI and me don't have enough millions in the acounts,
OPRANO is here to expose scams,
bring INNOVATIONS,
benefit the INDUSTRY,
and will be here long after we piss the last sponsor of ours away!
;-)))

General is NOT our sponsor,
but we LOVE BigGuy anyway for his BRAINS, not his MONEY!
;-)))

Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!) the program where LOYALTY breeds more LOYALTY!

That should have read:

Watch Serge as he humps TWO legs at once!

:-))))

Webfather Tickets are free

Webfathers,
sponsors.....aaahhh....

hhahahahahahahha,
they'll copy, I'm sure
;-))

what a fickle bunch
;-)))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!)

Watch Serge as he humps to legs at once!

:-))))

Webfather Tickets are free

Webfather, for whom?????
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For webmasters! Sponsors may not be too thrilled that the "Sleeping giant" has woken! :-)))

Let the games begin!!!!!

Webfather Linked for 5 years straight. :-))

DanTheMan,
while Mike plays basketball with some "has beens"
(Ouch, this gotta hurt! ;-)

we play much more sofisticated game , about to become Olympic Sport!

from:http://www.austin360.com/shared-cgi/stories/show.cgi?id=aponline-menus-data/National.AP.V7246.AP-Chess-Olympics.story&menu=National.html

(thanks, Colin!)

``It's competitive, it requires endurance,'' said George DeFeis, executive director of the U.S. Chess Federation. ``It's a mind game that tests the stamina of each chess player. I think the Olympics will benefit from seeing how other sports that are not so physical, though mentally fierce, compete.''

and I don't think they talk that just about CHESS!
;-))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!)

Webfather, for whom?????

I'm sure there are few folks out there to whom this news will add a few gray hairs!
;-))

General was one tough act to compete against!
;-0))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!)

ok its offical - i am out of retirement :-)
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Now THAT is what I call GOOOD news!!!

:-)))

Webfather Is that the earth movong or the General just out for a "Brain Jog" :-)

btw....all the info on the record is phony other than the server.

This is an ibill account.

Webfather Fuck you spammer!

general good to see ya, havent seen that many post from ya in quiet a while! WB:))

great job serge takin care of the bisness while mike plays round ball with MJ:)

HEY, just saw where gameday is in my back yard for the first game of the year,
I'm thinking of doing the "freeshoes.com" style of marketing:) anyone got a main stream site they want infront of 1.4 mil football freaks:)
I'll make the poster:))

dantheman tag this

Anyone know who this spamming motherfucker is?

Registrant:
them
17 silver ave
miami, FL 63456
US

Domain Name: AMATUER-TEENIES.COM

Administrative Contact:
dee, benny bennyboy13us@yahoo.com
17 silver ave
miami, FL 63456
US
34567856

Technical Contact:
dee, benny bennyboy13us@yahoo.com
17 silver ave
miami, FL 63456
US
34567856

Billing Contact:
dee, benny bennyboy13us@yahoo.com
17 silver ave
miami, FL 63456
US
34567856

Record last updated on 15-Aug-2001.
Record expires on 21-Jan-2002.
Record Created on 21-Jan-2001.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.EROSDOLLAR.COM 161.58.94.29
NS2.EROSDOLLAR.COM 161.58.94.30

Webfather Fuck you spammer!

Morning Serge :)

Yes! We missed you! :)

I'm putting a link in my tagline for VNWR's weekly newspaper, The DFN Weekly.. I wrote the lead article this week, and in it I mention TGP2 and also for anyone wanting to learn more about it I gave them a good url to do just that! :)

The newbies are excited about it! :)

gotta run.. be back later! :)
LadyB VNWR's - The DFN Weekly

Brujah,

I don't recall ever being notified that the links had changed. Were you?

Monk

GoodMorning, LadyB!

if guys missed me at Voltar's
http://www.vnwr.com/main/index.html

please tell them HI and that I'm filling for MikeAI who has nothing better to do than play basketball wiht
Mike Jordan....

"I'll be back!"
;-)))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!)

Good morning Oprano :)

KK
Some very nice informative posts! :)

LadyB

General,
money come and go, ideas get old,
dick stops getting hard but....

if you have a NAME people like to be associated with,

you can come out of retirement and put the net on fire in 24 hours flat
;-)))

if you get ready with it tomorrow-
we'll include it in our weekly webmasters news letter
http://www.oprano.com/news.html

6902 e-mails strong and growing.

bring it on, Big Guy!
Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!) don't miss a beat!

Monk, you had over 2 years to change those links! What took you so long ? :)

Its good to see the General posting again. I remember watching Webfather's dozen or so links change positions up and down on his porno page based on the Generals program conversions.
Brujah Fresh domain list up!

ok its offical - i am out of retirement :-)

now i will have to come up with something new hmmmm leave it with me - watch this space :-)

i knew i should have gone to bed ! i will now cya tomorrow.
General

Got this email from SIC Cash last night

"When we first opened S.I.C. Cash our linking codes were built around an IP address. Over two years ago, we started a new linking code system which does not use an IP address. As of this Friday, August 17, 2001, S.I.C. Cash v.3 will not be paying on any signups that are generated from an IP address linking code."

Gee, thanks for the day and a half notice to track down all of those old links and get them replaced!!

Fuck.

Monk

General,
YES,
set it up.

RETIREMENTS are for the sissies and
I believe that what you have might be EXACTLLY what the Industry needs to SURVIVE and EVOLVE!

...and we thought that INNOVATION is dead....

"Once an Innovator is ALWAYS an INNOVATOR"

let's rock the house once again!

(I wonder how long will it take for others to copy this time???;-)))

love ya, Big Guy!

Ready to lead the troops again????

Troops are READY to
Chaarge!
Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!)

I think I must be dreaming. :-)

General, if you have the same "old" email addy, I have a proposition for you. :-) If not, please hit me up at dravyk at allofem dot com. Thanks. :-) Good to see you around.

... Feels like a time warp around here suddenly. :-)

Dravyk 4 Free Gay, Asian, Teen, Mature, Fetish, Sexxx, more

serge,

it makes me feel like coming out of retirement.

dont think serge just do :-) let me set something up for you tomorrow and i will show you what i mean i think you will like it !

one more post and i think i will be full time again !

General

General!!!!
3 times in a row!!!!

this brings tears to my eyes!!!
"happpy days are here again"???
;-)))

1) I got your e-mail,
and compose my thoughts,
your e-mails require THINKING

2) I think I still have your wiring details
;-)))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!)

just wanted to post 3 times in a row

its been 2 years since i posted 3 times in one night !
General

serge

the answer to that question is

'a sheep'

should i send my wire details ?

haha
General

hmmmm serge can i have a latte

i remember the good old days and the count down to serge and FM meeting for the first time.

marketing and innovation - definately the good old days !

General

I always wanted to post that for my russian speaking friends....

"Eh rano vstaet OpranO"
;-0))

I appreciate it if you can post that on
http://www.crutop.nu/ubb/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi

thanks!
;-)))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!)

Dravyk, I posted it on Netpond,
this is in response to your answer to Melissa:

What nobody from Oprano??? Or GFY???

Melissa, in a 90-minute show with two phone lines we managed to get seven major resources represented.
*******************

let's do the math and PAY $1000 to the winner of....

7 + 2 = 9

$1000 question,
out of this 9,
how many of them be around 12 months from now?

Please name the ones you think still be around.

Please e-mail me your answers for pasterity,
subject 7+2=9
to claim your prize on
August 16, 2002

ONE ENTRY PER PERSON.

Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!)

Serge, will you be wanting poptarts with that? :-))

--- "I call it a BLESSING! "

Shake it up, baby now! Twist and shout! :-)

Dravyk 4 Free Gay, Asian, Teen, Mature, Fetish, Sexxx, more

Dravyk, really????

I think you are mistaken,
according to my observations,
the most PROFITABLE show for the station operator is when
Coffee Flavors are discussed!

FM and me are going to discuss
the prices and flavors of coffee beans!

I bet we'll spill plenty of beans in the process!
;-)))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!)

I wonder if there aren't two forces here that need to be taken into consideration --

1. the complete lack of marketing ability of 99% of the newbies in the last year or two, thus flooding the market with free content and screwing up conversions

2. the feasibility of the current pricing model -- which has only changed by dollar amounts and not innovativeness in as long if not longer --

:)
KK
************

it's gotta be it, as billing options are getting innovated.

I think "old economy" rules of supply and demand are still very much in tact!

Good observation, KK!
Serge (NoPiss4U...today , wait 'till Monday!, @ the Dokk's!)

Good morning, Serge. :-)))

Among the top ten highest rated radio shows Sounding Point has had, five were issues-oriented. The other five were: the two times FM was on, the one time RB was on, the two times Andy Edmond was on. Sense a pattern? :-)

Dravyk Adult Webmaster Power Search

As an industry we may still face a shake out (over the next 18 months) as smaller, less developed and hobbist webmasters may not be able to generate enough revenue to support their business and families
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Vick, you call it "SHAKEOUT"???????

I call it a BLESSING!

This industry has OVERSUPPLY of
"starlets" and UNDER SUPPLY of new ideas.

I know only 3! persons who came into this business directly from high school, everybody else have prior occupations which fed their families....

I don't see long lines to welfare offices just because the floor dropped out of the adult entertaintment industry.

Does it make me PornRepublican?
;-))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-))

"For what shall a man profit if he gains the whole world, but looses his own soul?"
Justreading
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Sorry, JR, but Nickatilynx has it copyrighted on the boards....
you might get a royalty demand letter
;-)))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-))

Serge, looking forward to you and FM together!!
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Drav,
yeah, I'm sure you do. I wish I was so confident in myself,
Ron was in the trenches all the time, I wasn't, what if I "lost my touch"?

I have a few questions to ask him....
and I won't take:
"Go fuck yourself" for an answer!
;-))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-))

Dravyk,
Hoop promotes
http://nocomments.com

the program wiht THE BEST conversions in the industry
Serge

Hoop, too early in the morning; I can't actually remember. What's the name of your program again? :-)

Dravyk Adult Webmaster Power Search

Dravyk... what URL are you promoting?

I just feel so confused with all the cool domains that are out ;-))

What is your domain again?
Hooper

--- "How many webmaster programs pay on check signups??"

Hawg, this isn't a complete list by any means, but here's a list of sponsors who pay webmasters on check signups.

http://allofem.com/search/search.cgi?scategory=Sponsors&q=check+sales

--- "I meant per signup programs :)"

And check sales from per signup programs ... :-)

http://allofem.com/search/search.cgi?scategory=Sponsors&q=check+sales+per+signup

Serge, looking forward to you and FM together!! Will there be a bleep button? :-)))

Btw, love the TGP2 and processing threads here. More, more!

Mike, I ain't kissing ass, so shut up. :-P

Dravyk Adult Webmaster Power Search

Justreading.. I think your tag color SUCKS!
Hooper

Ok gang.. I'm back.. feel free to resume the posting rampage that happened earlier today ;-))

---
Hopefully TGP2 is not too much too late and will not face some of the challeges of previous efforts
---
Problem isn't that it's too late.. problem is that too many people feel it's TOO EARLY... many people are foolish enough to believe that if it hasn't completely destroyed them that it's not a problem..

And then they came for me....
Hooper

Steve out... Gone surfin'
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Holy hell! I remember seeing that tag line like three years ago while delving into the adult underworld..man, time flies when you're having fun.

Magick hells bells and all that jazz.....

"For what shall a man profit if he gains the whole world, but looses his own soul?"
Justreading (Russian Mafia Doesn't Exist....) annoying quotes for greedy bastards

Wow verizon really sucks. I've been waiting for eons to get dsl here in Tampa.

Star I think we have road runner at the condo and it has worked great : )

Billy (Oprano Sergeant at Arms) Win FREE content with OPRANO !

Just wanted to drop by and let everyone know I am looking for beta testers for my new celeb program. Hit me up via email if you have traffic and I will make it worth your while.. Thanks:)
Celebsk Celeb Dollars Paying Per Join Now!!

KK if you could please do it here that would be great. You have done an outstanding job answering many of my questions

Think it would help some of the readers here to see

I really appreciate the time and effort you have given to explain the processing business to me

"the complete lack of marketing ability of 99% of the newbies in the last year or two, thus flooding the market with free content and screwing up conversions "
I feel that is a serious factor

Hopefully TGP2 is not too much too late and will not face some of the challeges of previous efforts

As an industry we may still face a shake out (over the next 18 months) as smaller, less developed and hobbist webmasters may not be able to generate enough revenue to support their business and families

That may be the worse case on how some of the abundance of free material leaves the net, if businesses fail the sites will be gone

Vick Let the money do the talking

Star,

Do they offer cable modem services in Tampa? I personally waited OVER a year for my DSL service to come in and when it did... guess what? It worked long enough for me to register so I would start being billed then it crapped out. I went with the cable service in my area and it was installed in less than a week and I couldn't have be happier. If they do offer it, definitely look into it as an option if you can't wait. BTW, I had cancelled DSL back in Jan., they are still attempting to bill me every month, even after numerous cancellation calls.

Oh, BTW! Hi everyone, just came across this board and wanted to say hey, never posted here before but looks like I'll be stopping back by to see what happening here. =) If anyone needs some info on marketing or creating gay sites, I'd be happy to help you out. Just shoot me a post or email me. Talk to you all soon!

BOSS, How you doing?! It's Steve from Webmasterslounge. Good to see you here, long time since we last talked!

Steve out... Gone surfin'
GMPass Steve We pay 100% + up to $5.00 reccurring on all sales!

Wow verizon really sucks. I've been waiting for eons to get dsl here in Tampa. I even ordered it like 3 weeks befor we moved. This aol connection is really hard use when trying to get work done :(

Star Gramma Knows Best!

Vick--
I'll be glad to discuss numbers and reasons why they are what they are with you any time :)

They have changed alot in the last 6 months, especially the last 3 monhts -- and from a personal standpoint, I'm not sure anything that happened last year or last quarter even is relevant to what's going on today with the numbers -- I'll use Brad's post about the last 3 months with his majors to illustrate my point --

I can do it in email or you can ask me here -- however, the numbers I'm going to give you are an aggregate of many sites, including the mom n pops that don't see cb problems and have generally better retention (tho I think I have a good idea why that is too) which will skew the numbers as a whole --

I wonder if there aren't two forces here that need to be taken into consideration --

1. the complete lack of marketing ability of 99% of the newbies in the last year or two, thus flooding the market with free content and screwing up conversions

2. the feasibility of the current pricing model -- which has only changed by dollar amounts and not innovativeness in as long if not longer --

:)
KK what are you waiting for?

ahhhh...
I wanna sing the song!!!!!

;-))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-)) piss is in the air, every way you look around.....

American Eagle Outfitters HQ is about 3 minutes from my house. I used to work for them and I can tell you, that IS NOT a company I would invest in. They may be growing but they have a pretty strong record of failures.

Wait, where's the stock board, I should have posted this there.

Ulfie TGP2 is the future

Raven,
AT&T's responce is most interesting.....
Serge

Peaches, what can I say????

I am not crazy about dialers....
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-))

Serge:
It certainly did. Here's this poor seventeen year old kid who actually has permission to surf the net and find porn..who is so responsible and careful and all of a sudden, we're hit with this huge bill and we can't figure out from where it came. AT&T's only response was they would not charge us this one time. But, if ever it happened again, they would not be held responsible. Bah! My husband is a network engineer and quite computer savvy and he could not find anywhere anything that indicated this would download in the background, disconnect and reconnect. In medicine, there is something called informed consent. This is as it should be on the internet, also. :-)

Peaches:
I will give you Abercrombie and Fitch, but my son has contributed mightily to American Eagle Outfitters! And, Aeropastale. And, Old Navy. And...and....and...:-)
Raven Sin-Text - Outsource your writing. Save on employee benefits!

Hey sports fans.... you will also have the chance to pick Melissas brain in person
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Sharpie, you are WRONG!!!!!

you meant
"Firefighting Fans"
;-))))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-))

I would like to point out that American Eagle Outfitters and Abercrombie and Fitch are there solely because of my son's spending habits ;)

Peaches
*************

Peaches,
you poor dear, teens today and their spending habits...
ouch!!!!
;_))
Serge

Lisa..I meant per signup programs :)

BossHawg PornResource - Resource Stylin!

"How many webmaster programs pay on check signups??"

We do. :)

Lisa Paying on check signups! :)

Hey sports fans.... you will also have the chance to pick Melissas brain in person in the workshops at Cybernet Expo... just thought I would point that out :-)
Sharpie We accept walkins... just bring cash or credit card :-)

How many webmaster programs pay on check signups??

BossHawg PornResource - Resource Stylin!

If you haven't seen it yet

http://www.fortune.com/indexw.jhtml?

100 fastest growing companies

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I would like to point out that American Eagle Outfitters and Abercrombie and Fitch are there solely because of my son's spending habits ;)

Peaches

If you haven't seen it yet

http://www.fortune.com/indexw.jhtml?

100 fastest growing companies
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....and I feel sorry for their shareholders, those stocks lost the most in the recent stock market down turn when
Expectatuions Met Reality
;-)))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-))

Actually that decline is per unique cards not attemps. :(

MelissaD Nobody is better than me!

If you haven't seen it yet

http://www.fortune.com/indexw.jhtml?

100 fastest growing companies

MelissaD - Thanks again, I follow the math, just wonder how to get the 20%-30% down ;-)

On CC declines @ 33%
If the formula for CC declines is
total number of declines/total number of billings
May be a little skewed as most surfers try 2 or 3 times when their card is declined

But I GET IT ;-)!!!
On line checks are $ you would not have
And recur better ;-)

Vick Let the money do the talking

Lets see if i got this right

bpj said on WTS
""NSF's represent approximately 15-20% of all returned items. Revocations are 1-2%. ""

from what i've seen with iBill
its about 30-50% returns, revokes.

Slavdogg

Vick

Look at th whole picture, while the 30% is scary the other # work :)
MelissaD Nobody is better than me!

MelissaD, Hooper -
Thanks much for the input
Understand fully what you are saying

"Most important fact: CHECKS, ACH, 900 AND DIALERS DON'T TAKE SALES AWAY FROM CREDIT CARDS !!!!!"

Checks no matter what percentage are largely revenue you would not have had, not offering that option

Seeing 20%-30% revoke is a psychological thing with me
Makes RED LIGHT GO OFF
of course I wonder how to make it better
Vick Let the money do the talking

Vick-

Your concern is a valid one re the revoke rate of 20-30% but take into account CC declines 33%, Checks 12% (there is 20% right there)

No real trials - okay so compare

Trials to rebill drop off on credit cards to revokes on checks-

CC - 50%
Checks 20-30%

Right there you are ahead of the game!

Not to mention the rentention is higer (2X higher)

Most important fact: CHECKS, ACH, 900 AND DIALERS DON'T TAKE SALES AWAY FROM CREDIT CARDS.

Basically its all found money (which is always a very good thing)
MelissaD Nobody is better than me!

Edd, Hooper,
I'm gonna reflect on the moment, I'm too overwhelmed...

There is no second FM in the world and I just gotta compose myself...

gimme a few...
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-))

Vick... as a program operator I can guarantee that you'll see no decline from using checks... just additional revenue.

Creditcard surfers will always be creditcard surfers... the rest? Turn em away or make em pay!
Hooper

the east coast posse vs the west coast posse?

sounds like a rap song.

"Yo my name is Serge & I'm here to say that we'll see some rappin at Dokk's on Monday...

Word..."
Hooper

On Monday, August 20th,
East meets West,
Ron Levi and Serge gets together
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Is anybody else afraid? Very Very Very afraid? you know its going to be packed - kinda like watching a car wreck.

=================================
Magick - wait till you see the video on http://www.cyberspasm.com from Vegas way too funny.
MelissaD Nobody is better than me!

Am strongly considering CCbill when starting a new reseller proggy. They lend credibilty for webmasters to know they get paid. I start in my name and webmasters who don't know me may wonder "am I going to get paid". From what I have seen CCbill offers a "soup to nuts" solution

bpj - Thank you very much for sharing the information
Is something I will take into consideration

THIS IS NOT TO START A PISS!!!
IT IS TO MAKE INFORMATION AVAILABLE
KK can you please share similar info about CCbill on line check processing?

Guess my real concern is the acknowledged 20%-30% return rate for on line checks
Hopefully the check users are not potential members who opted for check over CC because of no interest rates on checking

Vick Let the money do the talking

WOW. That's an incredible announcement Serge! It HAS been a LONG time.... WOW.

Edd (Sneaky Ninja Webmaster)

re-post from Netpond:
http://www.netpond.com/msgboard/index.php

Serge

We're on for Monday - 4:30pm pdt or 7:30pm est

Serge and Fantasyman will WORK IT OUT on FM Radio!!

http://webmasterlive.com

Be there or be square!!

peace out!!
fantasyman, Come See Serge and Fantasyman Duke It Out!!!
Wed Aug 15 18:45:43 2001 - 208.201.208.16 - message #156254
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-)) NOW I'm really getting nervous....

KK - I concur! ;-))) But if I were going to make a play with a new proggy in this industry.... I think I'd give it a shot! :)

Melissa
I do need to worry about fraud on my system, bandwidth, content cost of users that get to use my stuff for free for 7-10 days
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The majority of our returns come back within 5 days....

How many of the revokes are NSF?
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Thought I already answered this...? ;-)
NSF's represent approximately 15-20% of all returned items

How many are incorrect routing/account #?
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The majority of returns are due to invalid acct #, closed account, cannot locate acct, customer denies auth, etc.

How many are returned ie chargedback?
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There are no cb's. "Late Returns" are those transactions that a consumer revokes within the 62 days allowed. Late returns are appx 2%.

PLease do not hesitate to call on me again! :)

I'm off to pick up my boys from the pool! Thanks for the grilling! See you late tonight or tomorrow...

bpj ACHdebit.com

SPEACIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
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On Monday, August 20th,
East meets West,
Ron Levi and Serge gets together
at DoKK's for
Da first in 2 years JOINT Radio Show.

No topics are sacred,
we'll talk it ALL and answer questions from the audience.

see you at the "dokks"
;-)))
Serge (NoPiss4U...today ;-))

KK, hit me up on icq... 109972218- I have some info for ya :-)

Magick mo money mo money

bpj-

Unfortunately in this industry its not easy to get a merchant acct and even harder for a single company to hold on to one.

Then you have the issues of caps and reserves, fines and chargebacks, all the negatives.

Even those with their own merchant acct have limited options in fraud scrubbing -- CCBill is very fortunate in the fact that we have our own proprietary system that is not negative based --

One of the good things about using a third party processor -- be it CCBill, Jettis, IBill, whomever -- the risk is shared among many sites -- and most of the smaller mom n pop type sites do not incur chargebacks at a rate that is ever a problem -- the larger customers using third party get a bit more room to play without driving the third parties cb rates sky high --

Finding the right processing solution is never easy, but sitting alone to have to figure it out is even harder.

KK

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