CE dialer.....they are paying you a % for your dialer signups. But as I think moose said...it's very little compensation. You also have the option to send your traffic directly to the dialer. Send your foreign or dialer traffic somewhere else!!
Serge is right about CE...no smart webmasters are sending them traffic anymore...they continue to figure out ways to take money right out of their webmasters pockets! They suck!
but wrong about iFriends..they have a webmaster program.
CAM Even Nielski loves this program!

"# registered affiliates:
83,075
*************

I think Al got his head overheated in the hot Florida sun
;-))

I bet CE has no less than
83,076 affiliates! than!!!

General,
John run out of stamps sending checks to your 193,983 affiliates weekly...

Serge Even Nielski loves this program!

Clouseau,

What program is that URL for? Is that for Follow Me FREE? That one sends me to a dialer page too.

The one I gave is for Follow Me (not FREE), and does NOT go to a dialer.


Art eroticstories.com

Art,
when was the last time you tryed sponsors above?

Time for a change?
Serge Even Nielski loves this program!

"# registered affiliates:
83,075 (Mar '01)"
off the click cash page

wow

Moose Sounding Point

"IFriends.com doesn't have webmaster program, and nevertheless,
Al Hadhazy is one of the richest and most famous pioneers of the Internet."

bzzzzzzttt.... wrong answer

http://www.clickcash.com

Monk Sounding Point

http://in.cybererotica.com/cgi-bin/fmp.cgi/121/2122199/X

Redirecting to dialer page. fucken THIEVE!
It is bullshit. You can't just say all international traffic sucks.
Cybererotica should just close down if they can't compeat with the other big
players. Already they pay 20 dollars a signup half of what ARS or Maxcash do. Now they take some
valuable foreign traffic and put in through thier shitty dialer.

Art no it is not just type-in traffic. They are taking webmaster traffic.
Many many sign ups come from countries redirect to the shitty dialer. Read Mooses post it is
pennies.
clouseau Sounding Point

Wowsah, I can't type my own name. Grimmster you can't read my own name and are pissing in closets. Serge is pissing everywhere else. (hehe) ... I think we all need to go to bed. (Seperate beds though!) hehe

Sounds good, Matt! Catch everyone later. Zzzzzzzzzzz .... :-)

Dravyk Sounding Point

lol..
Stallion Mo Money, Mo Money @ Extreme Green

Serge..no but evidently dravyk is:)
grimm Project Webmaster?

dude i just woke up, gimme a break, i almsot pissed in the hall closet.
grimm Project Webmaster?

JR,

That's what I thought. So they just redirect type-in traffic, not any webmaster referral traffic.

So it doesn't look like anyone should be really upset about this, except for the foreigners who can't find their "members entry" link anymore ;-) A couple of chargebacks around the corner, I guess. Which will confirm to CE that foreign credit cards are no good! ;-)


JR, that's OK that you didn't sign up! They would kick me off the program for spamming webmaster boards anyway :-))


Art eroticstories.com

Grimm,

I think that was Dravyk that posted that not DragonKing.. lol


Stallion Mo Money, Mo Money @ Extreme Green

testing the cholestoral, examinging the prostate of the adult webmasters?;)
grimm
************

Grimm,
is DK good at that?

should I ask him for personal touch when I see him next week?
;-))
Serge no Meni required to promote this!

are we talking about foreign traffic here?

grimm Project Webmaster?

DragonKing... Ill check it out

are you going to be taking the blood pressure of the adult industry? testing the cholestoral, examinging the prostate of the adult webmasters?;)
grimm Project Webmaster?

Art, that link takes me to the normal CE site.

here:
http://vain.cybererotica.com/logurl/loadURL/395:index.html/192833:L

but i did not sign up :-(((
sorry.

JR Project Webmaster?

Yuck, you know you're posting in your sleep when you typo your own damned name!!

Dravyk Project Webmaster?

sponsors cheating webmasters?

NEWS AT 11!
grimm Project Webmaster?

Since this is the place to discuss business, everyone should be interested in this announcement ...

You don't want to miss today's return of Sounding Point when we're going to take the pulse of our adult industry, discuss the current slump, and hopefully make some near-future predictions as well.

The topic is "Mid-Year State of the Industry" with guests who represent sponsor programs, processing, legal issues, free site webmasters and resources with Alec Helmy of Cash Helmy and 69 Spot, Boss Hawg from Porn Resource, attorney J.D. Obenberger of XXX Law.net, John IP of Insite Adult, KimmyKim from CCBill and Oz from True Cash and The Adult Webmaster.

Btw, this board's post submit window really needs to be muuuuch wider and larger and have a wrap function on it. :-) Just my two cents.

Ok, enough burning the midnight oil, back to bed with me. Catch everyone later.

Dravykq Sounding Point Wednesday's

JR.....I hope this is not a SERIOUS question!?
_______________________

if there is one newbie out there thinking "hey, wait a minute... whats going on" then it is all worthwhile.

I just hope i can find him before everyone else :-)))


Forest, you can only do it through the US passport office. You can do it in one day, by paying more, having an itenerary/plane ticket and a letter from Claudia on company letterhead (or someone else) explaining why they need you right now.

JR eroticstories.com

"Moose is probably right that they are just redirecting SE traffic and type in traffic. "


JR...I never said that ;-))

They are redirecting all foriegn traffic though to the dialers......but not paying much for it.

And it seems its one of those ACTIVEx dialers that ends up all through your system...
Moose eroticstories.com

JR,

Here is a follow me link:

http://in.cybererotica.com/ad/igc.cgi/ceDirect/192833:L

What does that give you?


Art eroticstories.com

Fuckers!

Netherlands Russia Norway Canada
Japan Australia Belgium so far all redirecting
to dialer page.



post a reseller link for people to click on, not the URL.

Moose is probably right that they are just redirecting SE traffic and type in traffic.
JR no Meni required to promote this!

anyoone know of a passport site...I need my passport renewed ASAP..
Im leaveing next friday..

hey MAD CAT get with me and lets hook up in the ORIGINAL sin city!!!
Forest no Meni required to promote this!

i am not an expert but does this mean that hard working webmasters could be sending traffic and not getting paid for it??
*******************************

JR.....I hope this is not a SERIOUS question!?


Webfather no Meni required to promote this!

many believe you have but ONE chance to close the sale.
____________________________

I think a big difference between adult and non-adult is that adult realized long ago that the purchase is a spontaneous thing... That is how it is treated and with that, people gained a very good understanding of how manage traffic and close the sales believing that you have only that one shot.

if Jeff Bezos would have started with a site like youngteenagesluts.com instead of amazon.com, and THEN tried to sell books, he would be in the black from day one, not in the red after a few years.

JR no Meni required to promote this!

Okie Dokie..
Ill have my TGP guy sign up and and we will have some answers for you SHORTLY!


Forest no Meni required to promote this!

Hey Serge should I review
Jennacash First?
give everyone the REAL SCOOP?
Forest
************

Forest,
you gonna do the great service to the adult community if you publish your findings about this program,
as we haven't heard from a SINGLE webmaster how well he/she does with it,
go ahead, my friend!

WE'LL PUBLISH YOUR FINDINGS RIGHT HERE!
Serge no Meni required to promote this!

Fuckers!

Netherlands Russia Norway Canada
Japan Australia Belgium so far all redirecting
to dialer page.

Theif god dam traffic thiefs. Japan Canada
and Australia is at least 20% of my traffic.
That is all that is. Stealing. I do not care if they
pay some pennies on them shitty dialers. A quarter of
my members on my paysite are from Japan.

Art you are wrong. It is not okay to redirect
international traffic without telling webmasters
what countries are going to dialer pages.

They are taking Australian and Canadian traffic
that converts every bit as good as American traffic.
You think people from those countries are stupid and are
going to use that dialer? It is stealing. A lot of stealing.
clouseau no Meni required to promote this!

Bookmarks??

Are they at all what they are claimed to be?

Lets say 100,000 folks come to your site everyday. Let's say 1 out of 1000 book,arks your page. Of those 100 folks.....how many actually come back? How many actually come back and buy a membership??

In sales....we call this a "Be back." Some believe in "Be backs" and many believe you have but ONE chance to close the sale.

Anyone have any "Be back" bookmark stats??

Webfather no Meni required to promote this!

Fuckin Meni...

You couldnt even stand in Kobe's shoes....

Hey Serge should I review
Jennacash First?
give everyone the REAL SCOOP?
Forest no Meni required to promote this!

JR
They pay a few pennies for the dialer use.
Out of 360 (34,000 raw clicks)signups i sent them last period.........i got around $20.00 for the dialer ;-((

Better off filtering out the foreign stuff before it gets there and sending it to a different dialer that pays more.

But! the check will be good and on time.......
Moose no Meni required to promote this!

Art,

makes sense. but it is something that you certainly do not want all your webmasters to find out on accident and get the wrong idea.

what is your link?
i will click on it.

JR no Meni required to promote this!

it must just be a careless mistake or missunderstanding.

maybe someone at the Netsurprise board would clear it up?

JR
************

JR,
I wouldn't be very much concerned about it....

do you know PERSONALLY anybody who sends traffic to CE?

I think webmasters who do it is a dieing breed.

Smart people like Al Hadhazy from Amateur Hardcore,
whose business model was a something for all of us to follow, INCLUDING Ron,
figured out in 1997 that the less he relies on unstable and volatile group called
"adult webmasters"
-
the better he do for himself.

IFriends.com doesn't have webmaster program, and nevertheless,
Al Hadhazy is one of the richest and most famous pioneers of the Internet.
Serge no Meni required to promote this!

Serge,
I found a great place for us to go on Friday...I'll send you details in few =)

Nick
Tukhman eroticstories.com

JR,

I get the dialer page when I go through the CE front page.

However, if I use the URL given to me by CE's follow me program (i.e. an URL webmasters would use to send CyberErotica traffic), I am NOT sent to a dialer page, but can simply key in my credit card number.

So I guess CE decided they better send their foreign type-in traffic to a dialer. Nothing wrong with that, other than that it's kinda hard for existing foreign members to enter the member section now, there is no "members enter here" link!

Art eroticstories.com

clouseau

i am getting the dialer page when i click enter from australia


mick dialer page from australia

JR,
did you see that you made to:
http://www.oprano.com/pearls.html
_______________________

HOLY SHIT!!!!

first i got my name in the phone book... which is read by millions and now this!!!

i am adding that to my book,

"21 immutable laws of posting"

JR no Meni required to promote this!

I got the dialer page for Cybererotica (from Canada). Another classy move by them.

_______________________________

i am not an expert but does this mean that hard working webmasters could be sending traffic and not getting paid for it??

it must just be a careless mistake or missunderstanding.

maybe someone at the Netsurprise board would clear it up?

JR no Meni required to promote this!

JR,
did you see that you made to:
http://www.oprano.com/pearls.html
Serge no Meni required to promote this!

Clouseau,

I get redirected to the dialer page http://vad.mainentrypoint.com/cgi-bin/findial.cgi/2370001 as well.

Dialing in from the Netherlands.

Art eroticstories.com

"WIN JENNA JAMESON'S AUTOGRAPHED DODGE VIPER!"

Maybe we could auction Jon Voigt's car too.

I got the dialer page for Cybererotica (from Canada). Another classy move by them.


Monk no Meni required to promote this!

BTW, Jenna, when I say you can't afford me,
I really mean it.

My customers made $230,000,000 on the net in 2 years,
I am not cheap,
and none of them even have tits and pussies.
;-))

....but you can afford Meni even less.

He'll run your business into the ground unless you patiently and motherly redirect his energy towards something worth while pursuing.
Serge no Meni required to promote this!

JR where are you from?
You got redirected to a dialer page.
clouseau no Meni required to promote this!

i forgot to say....

it takes me to this page http://vad.mainentrypoint.com/cgi-bin/findial.cgi/2370001

hee hee hee hee hee hee!
JR no Meni required to promote this!

Thank you Moose. Are there any Aussies or
Canadians or Europeans around to test it?

clouseau no Meni required to promote this!

Please click http://www.cybererotica.com
and then click enter.
Are you getting redirected to a dialer page?
If so what country do you live in?
clouseau


there is an entry page. i click enter and it takes me to this page.

http://vad.mainentrypoint.com/cgi-bin/findial.cgi/2370001

JR no Meni required to promote this!

I redirected here:
http://vain.cybererotica.com/logurl/loadURL/free:index.html/2370001:C

from USA, I see no dialers
Serge no Meni required to promote this!

You are Michael Jordan, trying to make at comeback.
I am Kobe Bryant
Dunking over you
hee hee
___________

do you think Kobe Bryant would giggle like a little girl everytime he did it?


JR no Meni required to promote this!

Good morning

clouseau
Im in US.......no dialer
Moose no Meni required to promote this!

Webfather,
I don't know...
I never seen Meni up close and personal....
;-))

is he?
Serge no Meni required to promote this!

Please click http://www.cybererotica.com
and then click enter.
Are you getting redirected to a dialer page?
If so what country do you live in?
clouseau Serge didn't shower this morning

Meni,
I do not try to come back....
I have come
;-))

We billed few $$$ short of your yearly salry in the first 10 days of this board existence.

you still wanna compare our dicks?
;-)))

I feel sorry that you is all Jenna can afford....
;-)))

you can piss and plug your proggy all day long,
you are not helping JJ,
serious players don't wanna put in their resume:
"I was convinced by meni..."
and not serious players do not bring seriuos sign ups
;-)))

god help you!
;-))
Serge Serge didn't shower this morning

You are Michael Jordan, trying to make at comeback.
I am Kobe Bryant
Dunking over you
*****************************

Serge.....you an Meni are Black???

Webfather Serge didn't shower this morning

charge

webfather
Mike AI Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:02:38 - IP: 66.21.168.116 - Post # 996
*******************************

Sorry MikeAI.....this is not my slogan. That one belongs to Serge....

Mine was....

Stampede!!!!

:-))

Webfather Serge didn't shower this morning

we do not repeat the mistakes of non adult world
*****************************

That's a good thing!! I have spent over TWO years with those MORONS in mainstream. They are still and will ALWAYS be clueless. They don't understand that PROFIT is why they wake up in the morning.

With all the BILLIONS they have pissed away they could have taken one hell of a vacation!

MORONS!

Webfather Serge didn't shower this morning

Serge, we did fine for webmaster signups.
And you point?
Should I thank you for piss?
Wow, you didn't invent piss, but you took it to another level, IN THE 90s.
You are Michael Jordan, trying to make at comeback.
I am Kobe Bryant
Dunking over you
hee hee
Meni Serge didn't shower this morning

boy, am I fucking GOOD??????

I swear I didn't see that
http://216.222.150.152/msgboard/index.php3?start=152161&year=2001&month=07&day=11
when I posted

Nielski wrote:
"Tomorrow - get up bright and early and go over to Oprano "


VANITY IS MY FAVORIT SIN!
;-)))
Serge Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

Webfather,
the archives will be available soon, few last touches left to finish.

Meanwhile.....
please note that we do not repeat the mistakes of non adult world and deny mental cases the ability to sign up with the normal sponsors!

like them believing that if surfer saw pussy he won't buy the Mercedes
;-)))

Neilski,
you make a very witty comments,
you should bring all your friends and collegues here to show them all how smart and witty you really are!

chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarge!!!!!!!!
Serge Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

So what happened to posts 780 to 890 which I did not read yet?

Can't have soap opera with the third act missing. :-))

Webfather Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

Nielski,
thank, man!

You proved my point in the argument with the sponsors.

I told them that newbs will lurk and post here regardless of me liking them or not and I was right as usual.

Don't you know that human behavior, including mental cases, is my specialty?
Serge Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

gee thanks Slavdogg.

I just watched an old lady porno
clip for the first time. I am going to
toss the cookies I just ate.
THAT IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WRONG!!!


mutt Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

Slavdogg Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

"" passes Mutt some cookies and milk ""
now dunk the cookie :)


Slavdogg Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

now dunk the cookie :)


Slavdogg Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

Ya know that ain't a bad idea somebody
had for Jenna Jameson's Viper. Noooooooo...
I don't mean the taking it to malls and charging
guys 5 bucks to smell the seat.....the contest idea.
Would work better I think offering the prize
to surfers rather than webmasters.
WIN JENNA JAMESON'S AUTOGRAPHED DODGE VIPER!
Make the contest run for 6 months and I bet it would
more than pay for itself. It's a business expense.
Banners and text links would do pretty good for a little while.

Think you would have to get Jenna's permission to do that?
Maybe not. If it was her car I think you can use her name because
it does describe what exactly the prize is.

gee i'm smart. somebody give me a cookie and juice.
mutt Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

Hi Guys and Gals,

just got back from the All Star Game
in Seattle, it was a blast,
something I will never forget:)

New Domain name and board looks Excellent!!!

Hats off to MikeAi, Ed, Serge, and the whole crew!!!

Awesome job..


sextoyking Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

Offtime from HBO

Were my's cappo?

Tony S
Tony Soprano Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

HAHA NeliSki, could you at least post under your own name??

You can say whatever you want... ( as long as its not spam)

lets not confuse the people here, I already stick my foot in my mouth as it is
Mike AI Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

MikeAI wanna be imposter
Vick Tag line for hire

65.96.22.103 post 1030 fuckhead a.k.a.

COCKHOLSTER
Vick Tag line for hire

Thanks Serge

Even though I am not a baseball fan
It has been a pleasure to watch Cal Ripkens' career
He is a class act
Vick Tag line for hire

Nieliski, surely you can be more cleaver then that on your anon post?

hahaha

Please seek a mental health facility as soon as possible!


Mike AI , Hosting the world!
Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:39:44 - IP: 66.21.168.116 - Post # 908
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mikey - It's N E I L S K I

It was not an anon Post.

I'm a JEW - just like you and Serge - hence the "ski"

**********************

Nielski, did you finally cure you mouth yeist infection?

for some reason I thought that only women get affected by it in her pussies....
you proved me wrong man!

The reason we couldn't leave Zhora with you this winter-
we were affraid you'd kiss him on the mouth...

I hope you are well now and looking forward to work with skitz again...
Serge
Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:39:33 - IP: 12.89.183.161 - Post # 907
*************************************************************

You forget so easily Serge

I got the yeast infection from

The night in Boca last Spring - when you - your wife - Anthony - and your friend JimC - had dinner.

It was your wife that gave me the yeast infection. Yes - males can get it too.

Duh - from females.

sKiTz and I are Butt Buddies - long distance

whenever we discuss you wife - or was that - get discuss-ted


Mike AI Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

The Cal Ripkin this was awesome.... I keep watching sportcenter.

A great day for a classy guy!!
Mike AI Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

Vick,
because 1021 was a concede one,
I'll declare my VICKtory as a DRAW!

I'll cut myself a check for only $5 and you do the same!
;-))))

good night, everybody!
Serge Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

Serge
If it's over $600 you have to pay the man at the window ;-)
Vick Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

nah we never give up!
Mike AI Great content to keep webmasters happy!!

really???

Vick??? I won???
thank you!
I'm gonna run and cut myself a check now!

do you know if I have to pay taxes from winnings?
Serge Tag line for hire

really???

Vick??? I won???
thank you!
I'm gonna run and cut myself a check now!

do you know if I have to pay taxes from winnings?
Serge Tag line for hire

Good one Serge, you got 1021

Vick Tag line for hire

Which should be me in a minute
Vick Tag line for hire

Serge ....
Concede ...
*************

OK, you win! I'm off to bed!

"one who runs away-
lives to fight another day!"
;-))
Serge Tag line for hire

If I count right it would be 1021
Vick Tag line for hire

hey!
JR Tag line for hire

MikeAI, after we delete all TEST and HHHHHaaaaa posts,m
we'll know who the real winner was
;-)))
Serge Tag line for hire

Serge ....
Concede ... we haven't even gotten warmed up ;-)
Vick Tag line for hire

what kind of bear, polar??
Mike AI
************

hhahahah ;-))))

good one!
Serge After hosting comes website deisgn these people are top notch!

Not sure where the intellgent ruling goes for those posts ;-)

fortuneately for me, there is much debate as to the definition of intelligence, much less, how to measure it.
JR After hosting comes website deisgn these people are top notch!

JR, I pick my team mates wisely
;-))

MikeAI, Vick, do you concede now?
Serge After hosting comes website deisgn these people are top notch!

what kind of bear, polar??
Mike AI After hosting comes website deisgn these people are top notch!

Not sure where the intellgent ruling goes for those posts ;-)
Vick Tag line for hire

like Serge said,

i am just a little smarter than the average bear.


JR After hosting comes website deisgn these people are top notch!

JR, are you that desperate for $10???

russians do not feed you well?
;-))
Serge After hosting comes website deisgn these people are top notch!

OK

JR cheated!!

:-)

notice the count?? haha
Mike AI After hosting comes website deisgn these people are top notch!

Check posts 976 and 979
We are synchronic
Vick Tag line for hire

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
JR After hosting comes website deisgn these people are top notch!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
JR After hosting comes website deisgn these people are top notch!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
JR After hosting comes website deisgn these people are top notch!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
JR After hosting comes website deisgn these people are top notch!