Should Shellee Hale Be Protected Under Press Sheild? - Page 2

gonzo · 05-21-2009

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Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

As I said, no, I wasn't really following it.
But if what you are saying is what I think I'm hearing, then it sounds like they don't have much of a case.

They did make a note of the costs involved in proving you are right......That sounded like an intentional story plant. note to the future reporters......if you write bad stuff about us, we'll sue you, right or wrong, and you'll go broke defending....so keep yer yap shut.

Maybe the reporter can get them with a slapp suit.

Slapp isnt valid in NJ but I think it is where she lives....

griffin8r · 05-21-2009

She can certainly countersue if she was an affiliate whose information was compromised...

Toby · 05-21-2009

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Originally Posted by griffin8r

She can certainly countersue if she was an affiliate whose information was compromised...

Only if she can prove damages directly related to the breach, which would be damn near impossible.

softball · 05-21-2009

IMHO.....gotta say that around here or you could be sued. TMM was out to beat up a soccer mom and kicked a pit bull in the teeth. They report. You decide.
Goliath, meet David.

griffin8r · 05-21-2009

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Originally Posted by Toby

Only if she can prove damages directly related to the breach, which would be damn near impossible.

Good point. Didn't consider that.

It was mentioned there were other websites where the employees of the company stated that these breaches happened - doesn't she have an abuse of process counter in there?

gonzo · 06-01-2009

Blogger jailed in Anna Nicole Smith defamation suit

A real estate agent in Houston who blogged about Anna Nicole Smith was jailed for contempt last week in a defamation case brought by the late Playboy model's mother.
Legal experts said bloggers are increasingly the targets of such litigation, which are testing the bounds of free speech.

Lyndal Harrington, who is accused of helping to spread falsehoods that Virgie Arthur married her stepbrother and abused Smith as a child, spent four nights in jail after she failed to comply with a court order to turn over her computer.

The 53-year-old grandmother claimed her computer was stolen during a burglary less than a week after it was subpoenaed.

A police officer testified that he believed the theft was staged and judge Tony Lindsay ordered Harrington to produce the computer by July 2 or she will again face incarceration.

Harrington says she is shocked that she is being sued for comments posted on someone else's blog to pass the time.

"I just voiced my opinion," said Lyndal Harrington of her posts about Smith and Arthur on the website "Rose Speaks."

Like many bloggers, Harrington doesn't consider herself a publisher and did not realize she could be held liable for her posts.

"I got into this because my business had fallen apart in this economy and it was something to do," she told AFP. "I developed a lot of friendships with women who are retired or ill at home."

Three other bloggers are named in the suit along with Smith's former companion, Howard K. Stern, and Larry Birkhead, the father of her daughter, Dannielynn.

Arthur alleges that the defendants conspired to defame her so she wouldn't get custody of Dannielynn, who could inherit up to 88 million dollars.

"Lyndall Harrington is a liar who faked a burglary," said Neil McCabe who represents Arthur.

"She's part of a conspiracy to defame my client and she's done her own defaming of my client."

Lawsuits against bloggers in the United States have been doubling every year since 2004 with 15 million dollars in judgments so far against them, according to Robert Cox, president of the Media Bloggers Association.

"A lot of bloggers think of themselves as individuals or maybe writers but in the courts, they are considered a publisher," Cox said.

His organization has created an on-line course with Harvard Law School, City of New York School of Journalism and News University at the Poynter Institute at Northwestern University to educate bloggers about their legal rights and responsibilities.

"A lot of these cases could have been avoided if things had been worded just a little differently or if they had double sourced their information," Cox said.

"Most of the time, these people are not trained journalists."

The spike in suits is due in part to the burgeoning number of bloggers.

About 175,000 new blogs are created every day according to Technorati, a blog search engine.

But it also has to do with people's growing obsession with controlling their on-line reputations and new technologies that allow them to do it.

"With Google alerts and rss feeds, it's a lot easier to monitor what's being said about you," said Sam Bayard, assistant director of the Citizen Media Law Project at Harvard University.

Moreover, the technology exists to find anonymous bloggers.

"People can find you," said Cox at the Media Blogger Association, which this year began offering its members legal expenses insurance for an annual fee of 540 dollars for 100,000 dollars of coverage.

The majority of cases against bloggers are for defamation but they are also frequently sued for copyright infringement and invasion of privacy.

"There's this Wild West mentality where people think they can do anything on the Web and not be held liable," said Bayard.

While state laws vary on what constitutes defamation and who qualifies as a journalist and thus who can protect sources, Bayard said, judges have consistently applied the same standards to blogs as they would any other medium of expression.

"Defamation is defamation no matter whether it is written on paper or on a blog," he said.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

RawAlex · 06-01-2009

Well, Shellee can take that case with her to court. If someone is a publisher, then they also get all the rules and benefits that come with it.

Too much for some of you?

softball · 06-01-2009

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

Well, Shellee can take that case with her to court. If someone is a publisher, then they also get all the rules and benefits that come with it.

Too much for some of you?

Has Shellee denied being a publisher?

gonzo · 06-01-2009

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Originally Posted by rhetorical

Has Shellee denied being a publisher?

Judge decides this summer.
Right now shes probably in Canada dealing with our old cam and resource expert Mark Prince.

softball · 06-01-2009

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Originally Posted by gonzo

Judge decides this summer.
Right now shes probably in Canada dealing with our old cam and resource expert Mark Prince.

What exactly is the relationship between MP and 2mm? I am not clear on the pecking order here. Anyone know?

Toby · 06-01-2009

Other than the similirity in the company names I don't think there is any relationship.

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