What the hell is Wicked Pictures Thinking?

[gonzo]

MONTREAL — Manwin has struck a deal with Wicked Pictures to manage Wicked's paysites, the companies announced Tuesday.


http://www.xbiz.com/news/128933

[Toby]

They're thinking that if Manwin is managing their paysites they'll keep the long clips off of their tubes, just like they do for Brazzers.

Essentially a great big FUCK YOU to the rest of the industry.

[Evil Chris]

Originally Posted by Toby

They're thinking that if Manwin is managing their paysites they'll keep the long clips off of their tubes, just like they do for Brazzers.

Essentially a great big FUCK YOU to the rest of the industry.

Manwin = Brazzers
(I'm sure you knew that)


What Wicked is thinking is this. If Manwin is managing their paysites, their paysites will actually start making money. Tubes is likely the furthest thing from their minds.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Evil Chris

Tubes is likely the furthest thing from their minds.

BULLSHIT! They as much as admitted it when they referred to Vobile.

and yes, I'm well aware that Manwin = Brazzers. While you've been playing musical sales rep chairs the last few years I've been quite vocal about the topic.

[MikeSouth]

im sorely disappointed in steve orenstein...what a fucking douche bag thing to do

[DannyCox]

I noticed the press release on XBiz is slightly different than the one on AVN. The AVN one actually ends with:

“Another thing that paved the way for this deal was their willingness to work with us and other studios towards controlling piracy and to work towards implementing Vobile’s MediaWise software available through APAP."

That "controlling piracy" really stood out. Of course, I don't take it as they plan to stop it...just control it so they become the biggest pirates!

[RawAlex]

Danny, you hit it. Basically, Manwin has maneuvered themselves into being one of the top tube site operators, and this software is a key in the game. Once a few more are signed on, they will likely use it to scan other websites, and use those results to sue people out of the business.

What that are doing is attempting to create a vertical market for their products. Everyone who plays on their team will be on the biggest tubes, and everyone who does not will be locked out. Other tube sites won't be able to use the content, effectively creating a nice big wall between one side and other other.

The real key will be how many studios are willing to sign up.

[gonzo]

Amusing the responses here vs the zoo....

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Danny, you hit it. Basically, Manwin has maneuvered themselves into being one of the top tube site operators, and this software is a key in the game. Once a few more are signed on, they will likely use it to scan other websites, and use those results to sue people out of the business.

What that are doing is attempting to create a vertical market for their products. Everyone who plays on their team will be on the biggest tubes, and everyone who does not will be locked out. Other tube sites won't be able to use the content, effectively creating a nice big wall between one side and other other.

The real key will be how many studios are willing to sign up.

I suspect the next press release will be how theyve teamed up with the douchebags at TopBucks to host the content summit.

[angelic]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I suspect the next press release will be how theyve teamed up with the douchebags at TopBucks to host the content summit.

So what Im hearing is, THE company that introduced the porn tube.. AEBN.. is bitching about the fact that they lost..

I dont know anything about what Top Bucks or anyone else did, but supporting AEBN is the same fucking thing as supporting any other tube. ABEN started the .. avalanche..

You (gonzo) as well as everyone else on this board, can bitch and whine.. everyone else will benefit.. and I wont give a fuck.. I made my money at the same time as the heroin addict and prisoner Scott did..

That said, thank you ABEN, you made me a lot of money, even if you never paid me one single cent.

[angelic]

Originally Posted by angelic

So what Im hearing is, THE company that introduced the porn tube.. AEBN.. is bitching about the fact that they lost..

I dont know anything about what Top Bucks or anyone else did, but supporting AEBN is the same fucking thing as supporting any other tube. ABEN started the .. avalanche..

You (gonzo) as well as everyone else on this board, can bitch and whine.. everyone else will benefit.. and I wont give a fuck.. I made my money at the same time as the heroin addict and prisoner Scott did..

That said, thank you ABEN, you made me a lot of money, even if you never paid me one single cent.

In fact, thinking about it, my apologies to Scott, he was considerably more honest than any of you will ever be..

Or well, maybe you could say Im wrong.. What I meant to say, Scott, Nick @Ilynx, Dean, and many many others, made me a hell of a lot more money than any of the combined "efforts" of what remains of Oprano ever willl..

The main exception might be Danny.. even thought I never did any direct business with him..

But staying neutral always works right?

I will let you all know "who I am" in a year or two.. it makes little financial sense right now, but Im in the 7-figures.. per year..

[softball]

Originally Posted by angelic

In fact, thinking about it, my apologies to Scott, he was considerably more honest than any of you will ever be..

Or well, maybe you could say Im wrong.. What I meant to say, Scott, Nick @Ilynx, Dean, and many many others, made me a hell of a lot more money than any of the combined "efforts" of what remains of Oprano ever willl..

The main exception might be Danny.. even thought I never did any direct business with him..

But staying neutral always works right?

I will let you all know "who I am" in a year or two.. it makes little financial sense right now, but Im in the 7-figures.. per year..

Do those 7 figures have a decimal point in front of them?

[softball]

Originally Posted by angelic

In fact, thinking about it, my apologies to Scott, he was considerably more honest than any of you will ever be..

Or well, maybe you could say Im wrong.. What I meant to say, Scott, Nick @Ilynx, Dean, and many many others, made me a hell of a lot more money than any of the combined "efforts" of what remains of Oprano ever willl..

The main exception might be Danny.. even thought I never did any direct business with him..

But staying neutral always works right?

I will let you all know "who I am" in a year or two.. it makes little financial sense right now, but Im in the 7-figures.. per year..

Do those 7 figures have a decimal point in front of them? Oh yeah, and how is Jon doing? Still living in the exurbs in the middle of bumfuck nowhere or what? Did he buy his pied a terre in Toronto?

[softball]

not American, or Canadian.. even though Ive lived in both the US and CA.. and the EU..

Panamanian?

And if you want a bit of.. something to hate me even more about.. Im one of the ones that you all dislike

I don't dislike you. I've never even met you.

[softball]

Hey Angelic, why don't you come out of the closet and just post. I am sure we would enjoy your company.

[DannyCox]

These days, for me, success is just having a good time, making enough money to live well and retire on, and that's about it. Ten to fifteen years ago I worked my ass off to build what I started, and I was quite successful at it. Since then, I have completely downsized, moved my own office back to my home, and just take it easy doing little odds and ends that interest me. I've never "talked the talk", nor bragged about the money I have made or how successful I have been. People that knew me back when, know I did well. I'm not doing anywhere close to what I was doing 10 years ago, then again, I'm not even trying to.

I'm the first to admit I just don't have the drive or ambition to be one of the "Big Boys". As long as I have enough money to feed my travel and sailing habit, and can retire comfortably when the time comes, then I consider myself to be a great success!

[angelic]

Originally Posted by DannyCox

These days, for me, success is just having a good time, making enough money to live well and retire on, and that's about it. Ten to fifteen years ago I worked my ass off to build what I started, and I was quite successful at it. Since then, I have completely downsized, moved my own office back to my home, and just take it easy doing little odds and ends that interest me. I've never "talked the talk", nor bragged about the money I have made or how successful I have been. People that knew me back when, know I did well. I'm not doing anywhere close to what I was doing 10 years ago, then again, I'm not even trying to.

I'm the first to admit I just don't have the drive or ambition to be one of the "Big Boys". As long as I have enough money to feed my travel and sailing habit, and can retire comfortably when the time comes, then I consider myself to be a great success!

And you're, without a doubt, one of the "exceptions" (from my post above)..

Can't say I have the need to 'be rich' anymore.. but for the time being, business is business.. w/o it, I dont know what I'd do half the day.. I mean, I dont eat donuts..

[softball]

I've got a $7M flat

sure you do. Is it anywhere near the beach? I will drop by in my 5 billion dollar boat and we can fill the pool with Cristal and invite a few of your "A"list friends over.

[softball]

I made my first porn video in 1983.

[DannyCox]

That's how we got our start. I started my first BBS back in Calgary in 1988. Then had one in Nova Scotia, then hooked up with the guy running the largest Adult BBS when I moved back here to Montreal. In early 1994, we started playing around with this new WWW thing as we set up an early ISP here in Montreal and I had server space and bandwidth to play with. By 1996, we were pulling in over $30K a month from our home video sales and advertising on Carol's website. We started the actual pay site in January of 1997, and that took off far beyond my wildest expectations! It took me until March of 1997 to finally quit my Lead Engineer job at Bell Helicopters and start doing this full-time.

I really miss those early days when it was all so new and fun.

These days, I put out a lot of stuff in mainstream for travel and sailing, my hobbies. Make decent money from it actually, and it keeps me busy.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by DannyCox

That's how we got our start. I started my first BBS back in Calgary in 1988. Then had one in Nova Scotia, then hooked up with the guy running the largest Adult BBS when I moved back here to Montreal. In early 1994, we started playing around with this new WWW thing as we set up an early ISP here in Montreal and I had server space and bandwidth to play with. By 1996, we were pulling in over $30K a month from our home video sales and advertising on Carol's website. We started the actual pay site in January of 1997, and that took off far beyond my wildest expectations! It took me until March of 1997 to finally quit my Lead Engineer job at Bell Helicopters and start doing this full-time.

I really miss those early days when it was all so new and fun.

These days, I put out a lot of stuff in mainstream for travel and sailing, my hobbies. Make decent money from it actually, and it keeps me busy.

Werent yall running Wildcat back then?
I ran everything from RBBS to PCBoard at the very end.
I miss those days when people sent you a check to your house for access to NGS. [nasty greyscaled shit]
While some were just discovering BBSes we were both already on the web.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Werent yall running Wildcat back then?
I ran everything from RBBS to PCBoard at the very end.
I miss those days when people sent you a check to your house for access to NGS. [nasty greyscaled shit]
While some were just discovering BBSes we were both already on the web.

We ran Renegade, on the speakeasy relay network. "Sex2C Store BBS"
Online porn, chat lingerie, and sex toys

I remember one of our network guys became one of the first ISP's in the area with a "T-1" line, and several shelves of modems. He started with 30 US Robotics V.92 modems stacked on those click lock bookshelves.

Dude sold out a few years later to the local phone company for a couple mil.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

We ran Renegade, on the speakeasy relay network. "Sex2C Store BBS"
Online porn, chat lingerie, and sex toys

I remember one of our network guys became one of the first ISP's in the area with a "T-1" line, and several shelves of modems. He started with 30 US Robotics V.92 modems stacked on those click lock bookshelves.

Dude sold out a few years later to the local phone company for a couple mil.

Cott Lang and USR both suck.

FREE DENNIS HAYES!!!

[angelic]

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ

We ran Renegade, on the speakeasy relay network. "Sex2C Store BBS"
Online porn, chat lingerie, and sex toys

I remember one of our network guys became one of the first ISP's in the area with a "T-1" line, and several shelves of modems. He started with 30 US Robotics V.92 modems stacked on those click lock bookshelves.

Dude sold out a few years later to the local phone company for a couple mil.

I ran 2 BBS'.. One porn-related, one not.. and I developed a PCBBS clone.. Was also a millionaire by 23..

Say whatever you want.. but I know business.. more so than any of you ever will.. and I started coming here for that reason.. business, that is..

[softball]

Originally Posted by angelic

I ran 2 BBS'.. One porn-related, one not.. and I developed a PCBBS clone.. Was also a millionaire by 23..

Say whatever you want.. but I know business.. more so than any of you ever will.. and I started coming here for that reason.. business, that is..

You're funny dude. Please keep posting. I love this shit.

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by angelic

I ran 2 BBS'.. One porn-related, one not.. and I developed a PCBBS clone.. Was also a millionaire by 23..

Say whatever you want.. but I know business.. more so than any of you ever will.. and I started coming here for that reason.. business, that is..

Good. Write me a check, and I'll believe you. If you already know everything, why are coming here again?

[DannyCox]

I can beat you all! I shot my very first "Porn" image way back in 1975 when I was 15 years old. I took my father's Polaroid camera and took a picture of my girlfriend sucking my cock! I even made money from it, charging guys smokes and quarters (to buy smokes) to have a look. That made me a "Professional Pornographer" 35 years ago!

[EmporerEJ]

Originally Posted by DannyCox

I can beat you all! I shot my very first "Porn" image way back in 1975 when I was 15 years old. I took my father's Polaroid camera and took a picture of my girlfriend sucking my cock! I even made money from it, charging guys smokes and quarters (to buy smokes) to have a look. That made me a "Professional Pornographer" 35 years ago!

Damn, you got me beat!
I had my first store at 9 years old. (1974) It wasn't porn though. It was toys and candy. (Ricky's Toy and Candy) It was a real store, built on a concrete pad, made from a brand new steel shed kit, (10 X 10) bought at JCPenny for $199, for which I paid "rent" of $10/month. Dad paid for the concrete foundation, which is actually still there.

That was my first lesson in "free Publicity." Got a full 1/3rd page in the paper with two photos, and an in -depth "Business kid" story. Best profit? Red Swedish jelly fish. Bought 480 piece boxes, for $3.80 and sold them for a penny each from apothecary jars. Made $1 profit a week on that product line alone. (Big money for a 9 year old kid in 1974.)

Caught the bug back then, and it never went away. Didn't start selling "tickets" to our super 8mm movie "theater" to the neighborhood kids until I was 12.

[softball]

I remember when I thought I was on the internet because I was on a bbs. However, it was a swinger bbs and we did meet lots of people. Then one of them showed me the real internet. I spent 20 minutes downloading a picture and was amazed. Julia looked at it and said there's gotta be money in this. I borrowed a really crappy digital camera and proceeded to figure out how to get on "the net". That was 13 years ago....wow. A whole lot has happened in a decade
I made a lot of mistakes, a lot of great decisions, and a whole lot of money. What a ride.
Happy New Year to the last men standing.

[DannyCox]

I actually started with PC Board for the first BBS in Edmonton back in the mid 1980's, then moved to Wildcat when I set up my next BBS in Calgary. I much preferred Wildcat. I still have the original Wildcat software on 5.25 floppies!

I do have to clean up some of that old software. Anyone need an original dBase on 5.25??

[softball]

Anthony, you seem like an alright guy to me. You don't need to bang this drum so loudly.

[angelic]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Anthony, you seem like an alright guy to me. You don't need to bang this drum so loudly.

He knows far better than you do...

[tony404]

I got to tell you if I was making 7 figures my ass wouldnt be going back and forth on a forum. lol

[softball]

Originally Posted by tony404

I got to tell you if I was making 7 figures my ass wouldnt be going back and forth on a forum. lol

I probably wouldn't be telling the world and the IRS either.

[angelic]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I probably wouldn't be telling the world and the IRS either.

Not that the IRS would care, neither of us are American, but Im not stupid enough not to pay taxes..

Please try again..

[softball]

Originally Posted by angelic

He knows far better than you do...

Who does?

[softball]

Anthony, you are still funny, man. Now about the default on the property. Answer this question, if you are so rich, howcum you had your cheap ass apartment repossessed? A simple answer works.

[softball]

I think Angelic Anthony has bit the big one here.

[DannyCox]

I'm sorry, but I don't remember Anthony. Who was he?

I never really hung around any boards that much, so it always puts me at a disadvantage

[softball]

Timon is a tranny? Is Angelic a tranny as well? I didn't know any of this.

[softball]

Who tried to save AM, Emp?

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Who tried to save AM, Emp?

I did.
I tried to buy it a number of times from Dan first and then Brett.

[softball]

Originally Posted by gonzo

I did.
I tried to buy it a number of times from Dan first and then Brett.

I did not know that. This is remarkable and a very valuable message. But hey, is this the right section?

[DannyCox]

Farrell and I also tried to buy it off Dan, but he went with Brett instead.

[softball]

Its a shame that board was tanked.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Its a shame that board was tanked.

They wanted what they paid Rick for it.
The amusing part is somehow it ended back up on the open market last year.

I was approached to buy after its current owner tried to get me to help them run it. I made another firm and even more drastically reduced offer but they wanted me to pay enough for it to set them up in the teeshirt printing business.

Hope that worked out for them because we looked at buying their paysite prior to it and it looked like they werent any better at running that than a board.

I was pissed when it was admitted to Anton that the talent that was on the main site and who frequented several of these boards had long been gone and and the dude was just posing to squeeze the last dollar out of the biz.

As I recall the teeshirts Nick ordered from them were somewhat halfassed as well.

[DannyCox]

Actually, I should have said that we tried to buy it off of Rick and he went with Dan instead.

It's a bitch getting old

[softball]

I heard the story from Rob in Thailand...just after an elephant walked into the bar. Dan wanted to buy it to ban a certain person...I just can't remember who that was.

[DannyCox]

There have been four different "Deb's" now. The original, then the first blonde, then the last brunette, and now the new blonde. Gets confusing for long time surfers

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by DannyCox

There have been four different "Deb's" now. The original, then the first blonde, then the last brunette, and now the new blonde. Gets confusing for long time surfers

I see you know who Im talking about as well