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Old 11-12-2005   #1
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Default Should Google Give Miranda Warnings?

Murder Suspect's Google Searches Spotlighted In Trial

By K.C. Jones, TechWeb News
4:54 PM EST Fri. Nov. 11, 2005

Prosecutors claim a Mac specialist on trial in connection with the killing of his wife did a Google search for the words: "neck snap break" and "hold" before she was killed.

Robert Petrick, who is defending himself in Durham, N.C., cross examined a computer forensics expert this week. The expert testified about digital footprints he said the state discovered on several hard drives in Petrick's home.

Prosecutors claimed that Petrick, who stands out in his Christian North Carolina community as a self-professed Pagan, left behind a trail of digital evidence including a visit to a site called bloodfest666. Investigators are also focusing e-mails to women they said Petrick was having affairs with and a download of a document entitled "22 ways to kill a man with your bare hands."

Authorities claim that Petrick looked up the depth and topography of a lake where the body of his wife Janine Sutphin was found -- before he reported her missing.

Google's press office did not respond Friday to an email inquiry about the case, but a lawyer standing by for Petrick said he believes the evidence was all culled from the hard drives and he has no information that Google participated in the investigation.

Mark Edwards, who Petrick dismissed to represent himself, said that he believes he could have argued several legal points more expertly than the defendant but he may not have been as adept at cross-examining on computer forensics.

"He's a computer geek," Edwards said in an interview Friday. "I think he knew more about MacIntosh computers than the state's witness did. I'm not sure how much the jury caught, but he seemed to be pretty pleased."

The state's laws require that Edwards attend the trial in case he is needed.

Edwards said the Google searches just came up, though the investigation began nearly two years ago. He said that there was a massive amount of information on all of the hard drives. Edwards said investigators also retrieved emails Petrick's wife sent before her death.

Edwards and local television journalist Julia Lewis of WRALsaid Petrick apparently supported himself by running a computer business. Lewis said he seemed to know a lot about Linux and operating systems.

Prosecutors could not be reached Friday because of the holiday.

More computer forensics information is expected to come up during testimony as the trial wraps up next week. WRAL has been carrying live streaming coverage on its Web site.
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If Jack the Ripper were alive today he'd do the same.
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"Should Google Give Miranda Warnings?"

Why Google? MSIE is the one who logged that the suspect had visted http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=neck+snap+break
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Good one less MAC user in the world..
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Good one less MAC user in the world..
Let's see that makes it, what? 397 now.

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All I got from this article was this....

TEMPLE - A very susceptibile vital spot. If struck with sufficient force, may cause unconsciousness or death.
NASION - This is the summit of the nose. If struck with sufficient force may cause death.
PHILTRUM - This is the area between the upper lip and the bottom of the nose. Attack to this area may also cause unconsciousness or death.
HOOK TO JAW - A powerful hook punch to the front side of jaw may snap an enemy's neck. Fatal.
ADAM'S APPLE - A sharp blow here may cause enemy to asphyxiate.
SOLAR PLEXUS - The small of back. May cause death.
TESTICLES - The strong, focused pain of a vicious low blow may cause shock, resulting in death.
BASE OF CEREBELLUM - A powerful blow to the nape of the neck, causing mortal damage.
COCCYX - A powerful blow to the tail bone. Fatal.
FULL NELSON - Stand behind the enemy, put your arms under his, and lock your hands behind his head. Bending the neck forward may either break neck, asphyxiate enemy, or cut of supply of spinal fluid to brain, causing brain damage or death.
HALF NELSON - Again, standing behind enemy, but one arm is used to pin one of enemy's arms.
BRAIN BUSTER - Bend enemy over towards you, placing him in a headlock. Grab the back of his belt, and haul him into the air, vertical, upside-down. Allow yourself to fall backward, landing on your enemy's head, which will absorb your combined weight. Most effective on concrete or gravel.
RUSSIAN OMELET - Cross enemy's legs. Fold enemy by pinning his shoulders to ground upside-down and placing his legs above him. Sit on his legs, folding the bass of the spine. Fatal.
HEART PUNCH - A strongman's attack, it is simply a powerful blow to the heart. (Many years ago, the wrestler Ox killed an opposing wrestler with this attack.)
UPPERCUT - An upward strike to the bottom of the jaw with the heel of the hand, causing the enemy's head to snap backward. May shatter vertabrae. Fatal.
ABDOMEN - A substantial blow to this area may rupture a vital organ, causing death.
RIB CAGE - A vicious shattering of the rib cage may cause grave internal bleeding.
HEAD-TO-WALL PUNCH - A swift, hard, cold-cock punch to an enemy's face while he is standing near a wall may drive his head into it, causing the back of the skull to shatter fatally.
PINNED DROP KICK - Standing behind enemy, holding his arms straight back. A drop kick to the back without releasing arms may severe spine, causing death.
HEAD WRENCH - Grabbing an enemy's head by the mouth and the back of the skull, then twisting with a sudden, violent jerk to rend vertabrae, may easily cause death.
CHOKE HOLD - Once a favorite of law enforcement officials, has often proved deadly. The right arm goes over the enemy's right shoulder, and grips the back of the head. The left arm comes over his left shoulder, reaches across neck, and grabs own right forearm. With enough pressure applied, causes brain damage or death.
HEAD YANK - Bend enemy forward, grab head, and pull back with convincing force. May seperate delicate vertebrae, causing death.
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All I got from this article was this....

TEMPLE - A very susceptibile vital spot. If struck with sufficient force, may cause unconsciousness or death.
NASION - This is the summit of the nose. If struck with sufficient force may cause death.
PHILTRUM - This is the area between the upper lip and the bottom of the nose. Attack to this area may also cause unconsciousness or death.
HOOK TO JAW - A powerful hook punch to the front side of jaw may snap an enemy's neck. Fatal.
ADAM'S APPLE - A sharp blow here may cause enemy to asphyxiate.
SOLAR PLEXUS - The small of back. May cause death.
TESTICLES - The strong, focused pain of a vicious low blow may cause shock, resulting in death.
BASE OF CEREBELLUM - A powerful blow to the nape of the neck, causing mortal damage.
COCCYX - A powerful blow to the tail bone. Fatal.
FULL NELSON - Stand behind the enemy, put your arms under his, and lock your hands behind his head. Bending the neck forward may either break neck, asphyxiate enemy, or cut of supply of spinal fluid to brain, causing brain damage or death.
HALF NELSON - Again, standing behind enemy, but one arm is used to pin one of enemy's arms.
BRAIN BUSTER - Bend enemy over towards you, placing him in a headlock. Grab the back of his belt, and haul him into the air, vertical, upside-down. Allow yourself to fall backward, landing on your enemy's head, which will absorb your combined weight. Most effective on concrete or gravel.
RUSSIAN OMELET - Cross enemy's legs. Fold enemy by pinning his shoulders to ground upside-down and placing his legs above him. Sit on his legs, folding the bass of the spine. Fatal.
HEART PUNCH - A strongman's attack, it is simply a powerful blow to the heart. (Many years ago, the wrestler Ox killed an opposing wrestler with this attack.)
UPPERCUT - An upward strike to the bottom of the jaw with the heel of the hand, causing the enemy's head to snap backward. May shatter vertabrae. Fatal.
ABDOMEN - A substantial blow to this area may rupture a vital organ, causing death.
RIB CAGE - A vicious shattering of the rib cage may cause grave internal bleeding.
HEAD-TO-WALL PUNCH - A swift, hard, cold-cock punch to an enemy's face while he is standing near a wall may drive his head into it, causing the back of the skull to shatter fatally.
PINNED DROP KICK - Standing behind enemy, holding his arms straight back. A drop kick to the back without releasing arms may severe spine, causing death.
HEAD WRENCH - Grabbing an enemy's head by the mouth and the back of the skull, then twisting with a sudden, violent jerk to rend vertabrae, may easily cause death.
CHOKE HOLD - Once a favorite of law enforcement officials, has often proved deadly. The right arm goes over the enemy's right shoulder, and grips the back of the head. The left arm comes over his left shoulder, reaches across neck, and grabs own right forearm. With enough pressure applied, causes brain damage or death.
HEAD YANK - Bend enemy forward, grab head, and pull back with convincing force. May seperate delicate vertebrae, causing death.

Great, you had to go post that. Now, if any of our wives/girlfriends or in Voodoo and Timon's cases boyfriends, end up dead, this will be the first place they'll look...
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OK , sarettah, I won't post the

"16 ways to murder someone without ever getting caught" peice then.
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Nick, I see you have an extensive Paladin Press library
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OK , sarettah, I won't post the

"16 ways to murder someone without ever getting caught" peice then.

Nah, that one's ok... Remember, I grew up in New York. We used that as our third grade primer
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Great, you had to go post that. Now, if any of our wives/girlfriends or in Voodoo and Timon's cases boyfriends, end up dead, this will be the first place they'll look...
Be careful having fun with Timon, Sare. You might be labeled a fucking racist for no good reason.
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if you have to google how to break someones neck, well, your an idiot.
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if you have to google how to break someones neck, well, your an idiot.
I'm thinking that one may call this man an "idiot" without fear of contradiction.

I'm just pissed off that this assshole is referred to as a "Pagan" without any specification. It's the kind of thing that causes people with no knowledge of *any* form of paganism to become fearful and hateful.

The "P" word that fits this guy is "psycho."
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if you have to google how to break someones neck, well, your an idiot.
True!
Everyone knows Alta Vista is the "Break Your Neck Search Engine"!
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Holy shit thats a name from the past .. havent used altavista.com in an age
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