Hey Peaches....

[sarettah]

The debate between HP and Peaches (and onzo) has absolutely nothing to do with anyone but them.

The debate between you and peaches has nothing to do with anyone but you and her.

However, if I see anyone (not just you) calling someone trailer trash etc because they were in a situation that they worked themselves out of, I will jump in.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

...Show Me the Money Bitches..,
...Cause money talks and bullshit walk !!!

Ain't that the rule of life???

Hey..? is this a battle of wits? or an argument of who can Pimp better?

Who can pimp better is not up for discussion. And as a battle of wits it is a failure. So I guess that would be all she wrote.

[MaskTVMaura]

I know that it's probably kinda late to put my two cents in, but I worked as a model for Rhetorical and his team was totally first rate! We took gorgeous sexy glam images in a sex-positive and fun atmosphere, I was paid well for my time, and everything was completely professional.

Now many of you may not know Rhetorical in person, so you can't appreciate how ludicrously funny these heated allegations truly are. And I know that Rhetorical didn't need me to back him up, but when I see people ganging up on somebody for the wrong reasons, I choose to step in.

[softball]

Originally Posted by sarettah

The debate between HP and Peaches (and onzo) has absolutely nothing to do with anyone but them.

The debate between you and peaches has nothing to do with anyone but you and her.

However, if I see anyone (not just you) calling someone trailer trash etc because they were in a situation that they worked themselves out of, I will jump in.

Which begs the question why?
Considering you have jumped in at any excuse in the past, what exactly has changed? In fact, I never had a problem with you other than you fighting peaches battles. Certainly I would have no reason to because I don't even really know you and you have very little to do with my line of work, so why would I?

As for the above debates, they are in a public forum and so open to anyone jumping in. That is why they are there, I would assume. Otherwise there are any number of private avenues.

edit: BTW, do you think so little of Peaches that you feel her an incapable person?

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by MaskTVMaura

I know that it's probably kinda late to put my two cents in, but I worked as a model for Rhetorical and his team was totally first rate! We took gorgeous sexy glam images in a sex-positive and fun atmosphere, I was paid well for my time, and everything was completely professional.

Now many of you may not know Rhetorical in person, so you can't appreciate how ludicrously funny these heated allegations truly are. And I know that Rhetorical didn't need me to back him up, but when I see people ganging up on somebody for the wrong reasons, I choose to step in.

Absolutely.. Step in please, I totally agree with you on that part, feel free to express your opinions ma'am.

But the first comment you make , Well..,
That comment is totally useless without pics.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Which begs the question why?
Considering you have jumped in at any excuse in the past, what exactly has changed? In fact, I never had a problem with you other than you fighting peaches battles. Certainly I would have no reason to because I don't even really know you and you have very little to do with my line of work, so why would I?

As for the above debates, they are in a public forum and so open to anyone jumping in. That is why they are there, I would assume. Otherwise there are any number of private avenues.

edit: BTW, do you think so little of Peaches that you feel her an incapable person?

Peaches is quite capable I am sure.

I do not think that the debate between Peaches and the FFN belong in a public forum. I think it is quite sad to see people who have been actual real in person frends for a while have a falling out. I think it is doubly sad when it is done in public. That is why I have no comment on what HP, Gonzo or Peaches say to each other. I actually hope they can work it out.

The parts of the arguments between you and Sabby and you and Peaches that I have seen have always been out in public view and I have treated them as sport, much as you seem to. I was probably wrong on that score.

I don't want to go too awful deep here but my reaction to folks beating on someone, or insulting them because of their hard honest effort is a pet peeve that goes way way way back and I have always, in person or on the net had a fierce reaction to them, whether I know the person or not. That is why I will probably always jump into those ones, doesn't matter whether it is here or in the checkout lane of a store.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by MaskTVMaura

I know that it's probably kinda late to put my two cents in, but I worked as a model for Rhetorical and his team was totally first rate! We took gorgeous sexy glam images in a sex-positive and fun atmosphere, I was paid well for my time, and everything was completely professional.

Now many of you may not know Rhetorical in person, so you can't appreciate how ludicrously funny these heated allegations truly are. And I know that Rhetorical didn't need me to back him up, but when I see people ganging up on somebody for the wrong reasons, I choose to step in.

lolol..anging up on? I think this one has been pretty much all graham and me...lol.

I am sure he is a good photographer and I don't think you will see anywhere that I have questioned that. I am glad you had a good experience with him. I have read of other folks good experiences with him and have personally seen and appreciated his skill with the lens.

That doesn't mean he doesn't often act the asshole when he comes here...

[softball]

"I don't want to go too awful deep here but my reaction to folks beating on someone, or insulting them because of their hard honest effort is a pet peeve that goes way way way back"

Fair enough. But if you have that reaction to some, I would think you would have that reaction to all. Peaches has insulted me just about everyway possible which also includes my hard work to get where I am today. There was a stoney silence from you. Sabby and I go back way further than that, and you have no idea of the nastiness that girl spread about me back in the day. Vicious nasty barely legal threats.
Serge et al. tried to sic the IRS on me and get me googled by the feds as well as trying to post my personal details. They were trying to ruin my hard work and honest effort. You just went along for the lynching.
Now, had that not all occurred and I thought you were an honest broker and believed the above posting, I would tip my hat to you and apologise for any damage or ill will I had caused. But I see none of that. But when you are in a gang, it is easy to kick the shit out of someone. The suitcase pimp lie started by jeff miller being the most obvious of lies. Peaches, IMHO is a nasty piece of work who finally got called out on her lies. That, as I stated is my opinion. Between me and her. But when she finally had to face the music, painted herself into a corner, she hit the ignore button and left you to clean up her mess.
Just my view of this little world.

edit: btw, how do you use the quote feature?

[softball]

Originally Posted by sarettah

lolol..anging up on? I think this one has been pretty much all graham and me...lol.

I am sure he is a good photographer and I don't think you will see anywhere that I have questioned that. I am glad you had a good experience with him. I have read of other folks good experiences with him and have personally seen and appreciated his skill with the lens.

That doesn't mean he doesn't often act the asshole when he comes here...

Well I could also say exactly the same thing about you....wibble?

[JoesHO]

Sarretah flops more than anyone I know, he has shown how pathetic he is and useless.

Peaches aint even in the industry LOL she just has no where else to go.

she tried to fuck over gonzo and HP ( whom she called friends by the way)

funny thing is that it took up so much conversation to really amount to nothing LOL if it looks like a duck and acts like a duck .....well


GO RHETORICAL!!!!!! you are OK in my book mate .

[softball]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

Sarretah flops more than anyone I know, he has shown how pathetic he is and useless.

Peaches aint even in the industry LOL she just has no where else to go.

she tried to fuck over gonzo and HP ( whom she called friends by the way)

funny thing is that it took up so much conversation to really amount to nothing LOL if it looks like a duck and acts like a duck .....well


GO RHETORICAL!!!!!! you are OK in my book mate .

So how'd the road trip go?

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Fair enough. But if you have that reaction to some, I would think you would have that reaction to all.

Actually I do,

And I was going to do a whole diatribe thingie but what it actually comes down to is that you seem to seek the piss. You seem to enjoy it, so I have always been happy to oblige. That is it in a nutshell.

hen I have seen what I thought might be an unfair attack on you I have tried to stay out of it. I have not participated against you for the most part but you are right, I have not defended you mainly because you seem to enjoy the piss, or at least that is how it appears from the cheap seats.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

Sarretah flops more than anyone I know, he has shown how pathetic he is and useless.

Says the useless manatee.

[softball]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Actually I do,

And I was going to do a whole diatribe thingie but what it actually comes down to is that you seem to seek the piss. You seem to enjoy it, so I have always been happy to oblige. That is it in a nutshell.

hen I have seen what I thought might be an unfair attack on you I have tried to stay out of it. I have not participated against you for the most part but you are right, I have not defended you mainly because you seem to enjoy the piss, or at least that is how it appears from the cheap seats.

That's cool. I don't deny piss can be fun. But when it gets into the land of lawyers (trev) the irs (serge) then I call time and bullshit.
I personally will always defend anyone, even if I don't like them, if I see crap being unfairly heaped on them. If you did the same thing, we would prolly actually get along.

[softball]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Says the useless manatee.

I love manatees.

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

So how'd the road trip go?

haha it could have went better, mostely a lot of scouting for me, to do road trips in better weather. I was solo most of the time and just making deals and getting acess to clubs in different towns, locating friendly colleges to hold event s at , and running numbers needed to be successful and biudgeted properly and all.

I had hoped for more footage etc, but it was cold as fuck in most of the places and I had to set up the RV, drive, wasnt in the town very long etc......


Spring one will be much better I think. as I will be much better prepared this second time out .

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Says the useless manatee.

yep you got me pegged, always have you are soooo much smarter, and better than me.

I will just keep trying though like the litte red steam engine

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I love manatees.

Manatees are cool, but other than being cool they are pretty much useless.

I will be swimming with some of them next weekend, maybe be able to bring back some pics.

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Manatees are cool, but other than being cool they are pretty much useless.

I will be swimming with some of them next weekend, maybe be able to bring back some pics.

Just dont try to fuck my sister, I hear her new boyfriend is a real shark!

[softball]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Manatees are cool, but other than being cool they are pretty much useless.

I will be swimming with some of them next weekend, maybe be able to bring back some pics.

I was swimming with them in the jungle in Brazil last year. They are a trip but have really, really bad breath.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

Just dont try to fuck my sister, I hear her new boyfriend is a real shark!

Ok, you get a point for that one.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

haha it could have went better, mostely a lot of scouting for me, to do road trips in better weather. I was solo most of the time and just making deals and getting acess to clubs in different towns, locating friendly colleges to hold event s at , and running numbers needed to be successful and biudgeted properly and all.

I had hoped for more footage etc, but it was cold as fuck in most of the places and I had to set up the RV, drive, wasnt in the town very long etc......


Spring one will be much better I think. as I will be much better prepared this second time out .

I'll sell you xxxrv.com. Load the truck up with a couple of hicks and have them go from college to college fucking the guys.

Bangbros goes national

[softball]

Originally Posted by JoesHO

haha it could have went better, mostely a lot of scouting for me, to do road trips in better weather. I was solo most of the time and just making deals and getting acess to clubs in different towns, locating friendly colleges to hold event s at , and running numbers needed to be successful and biudgeted properly and all.

I had hoped for more footage etc, but it was cold as fuck in most of the places and I had to set up the RV, drive, wasnt in the town very long etc......


Spring one will be much better I think. as I will be much better prepared this second time out .

drive up to Vancouver. I can probably point you in a couple of directions that aren't in the middle of the freeking burbs in nowheresville. LOL

[edward]

Originally Posted by MaskTVMaura

I know that it's probably kinda late to put my two cents in, but I worked as a model for Rhetorical and his team was totally first rate! We took gorgeous sexy glam images in a sex-positive and fun atmosphere, I was paid well for my time, and everything was completely professional.

Now many of you may not know Rhetorical in person, so you can't appreciate how ludicrously funny these heated allegations truly are. And I know that Rhetorical didn't need me to back him up, but when I see people ganging up on somebody for the wrong reasons, I choose to step in.

pics or it didnt happen

p.s.
guys give peaches a break

[softball]

Originally Posted by edward

pics or it didnt happen

p.s.
guys give peaches a break

Why?

[edward]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Why?

why what?

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by edward

why what?

why is the freakin' sky fallin'?....

what do u think "why"?

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I was swimming with them in the jungle in Brazil last year. They are a trip but have really, really bad breath.

Have u ever made it to the Galapagos?

That the shit down there

[12clicks]

hahahahahahahahaha

[Top_Of_Google_Man]

Originally Posted by Dianna Vesta

I think you guys need some good anal sex to release some of that pent up testosterone.

where do i sign up?

[edward]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

why is the freakin' sky fallin'?....

what do u think "why"?

http://www.space.com/searchforlife/s...ds_060810.html

[Peaches]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

hahahahahahahahaha

OK, I had to come back and congratulate Gonzo and Hellpuppy. Much more important to them (and longer in coming) than baiting me to post here was to bait 12Clicks into posting here

And PLEASE don't compare Joe to a manatee. I grew up with them in the St. John's river (we called them seacows). They are gentle lovable animals and from what I can tell, much more informed and intelligent than Joe will ever be. Watching him defend Gonzo and Hellpuppy has to be one of the more ironic things I've seen in years.

Joe, I've never done business with Gonzo and Hellpuppy, so I'm not sure how I've tried to screw them over. But of course, I'm also living off seed money from my divorce, lol. In fact, I do believe the last dinner we had I picked up the tab. Gonzo was never worried about me not having a "job" when I was paying for dinner.. At least HP and I are probably even on dinners/drinks. Gonzo....not so much

Headed out to gamble for the weekend - you girls enjoy yourselves and again, congrats on the 12clicks catch!

[softball]

Originally Posted by Peaches

OK, I had to come back and congratulate Gonzo and Hellpuppy. Much more important to them (and longer in coming) than baiting me to post here was to bait 12Clicks into posting here

And PLEASE don't compare Joe to a manatee. I grew up with them in the St. John's river (we called them seacows). They are gentle lovable animals and from what I can tell, much more informed and intelligent than Joe will ever be. Watching him defend Gonzo and Hellpuppy has to be one of the more ironic things I've seen in years.

Joe, I've never done business with Gonzo and Hellpuppy, so I'm not sure how I've tried to screw them over. But of course, I'm also living off seed money from my divorce, lol. In fact, I do believe the last dinner we had I picked up the tab. Gonzo was never worried about me not having a "job" when I was paying for dinner.. At least HP and I are probably even on dinners/drinks. Gonzo....not so much

Headed out to gamble for the weekend - you girls enjoy yourselves and again, congrats on the 12clicks catch!

Peaches has an Oprano jones. Cracks me up.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Peaches

OK, I had to come back and congratulate Gonzo and Hellpuppy. Much more important to them (and longer in coming) than baiting me to post here was to bait 12Clicks into posting here

And PLEASE don't compare Joe to a manatee. I grew up with them in the St. John's river (we called them seacows). They are gentle lovable animals and from what I can tell, much more informed and intelligent than Joe will ever be. Watching him defend Gonzo and Hellpuppy has to be one of the more ironic things I've seen in years.

Joe, I've never done business with Gonzo and Hellpuppy, so I'm not sure how I've tried to screw them over. But of course, I'm also living off seed money from my divorce, lol. In fact, I do believe the last dinner we had I picked up the tab. Gonzo was never worried about me not having a "job" when I was paying for dinner.. At least HP and I are probably even on dinners/drinks. Gonzo....not so much

Headed out to gamble for the weekend - you girls enjoy yourselves and again, congrats on the 12clicks catch!

Its becasue Im a drink freeloader.

Please post the amount and your paypal account so I can send you what you think I owe you.

[JoesHO]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Peaches has an Oprano jones. Cracks me up.

she just cant stay away, she has nothing else to do .

what is so ironic about saying the truth peaches? I am not defending anyone ( no need to they are grown adults and can speak for themselves) but you tried to stick a knife in their back period, but you called them friend at one point. doesnt always have to be about work ( and you didnt do business with them because you do not adult business since you got fired from weg)

oh and who gives a fuck who paid for dinner , does that make it any less true that your are so pathetic ? or are you trying to imply more false derogatorys by using inuendos towards Gonzo? seems to be the way you work. if no bandwagon is around for you to jump on and think you are with the coolcrowd, then you always go for the backside , but you are too transparent.

have a good day doing whatever it is you do. and come back here to tell me how fucked up I am ( but I am still in the adult business and doing just fine thanks for your concern) and as far as I know Gonzo has never been fitred from a job in this industry or any other. but you have LOL

[Rcourt64]

This crap just doesn't get any better

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Again, OMG. I can't tell if you're being paranoid all on your own or if the puppeteer is having his strings pulled by his puppet.

I honestly don't remember what was IN your post.I really don't remember reading it, but I guess if you said I did, then I must have. But whatever was in it wasn't important enough to me to remember it. I'd have to search it down to figure out what you're even referencing.

But AGAIN, I wasn't referring to one person. I even used the word "people". I'm not going to betray confidences by telling you who's told me about things from Vegas. Hell, I didn't even ASK for the information. But I can assure you, at no time has your name been brought up. Period. And I find it really bizarre that you would jump to that conclusion. Or were you pushed?

And Russ, I said it before, but I'll say it again - thanks

I call bullshit.

You've been sliding digs in for weeks over on GFY. People ICQ me the links, I usually ignore 'em. Oh, I guess you were talking about someone else when you slapped a dig in there about Miss Nevada underage pics links? Again, bullshit, I know your style better than most.

The one with the drinks struck me as so incredibly petty I couldn't believe it so I called you out on it. Now you're dancing instead of owning up to it and looking bad for your remaining friends.

Just let it all go, please.

You have no idea how bad it is getting. First question out of almost everyone's mouth that I ran into in Vegas was "what the fuck is wrong with Peaches?" Either that or "told you so".

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Peaches

At least HP and I are probably even on dinners/drinks. Gonzo....not so much

Didn't know we were keeping score. But glad I'm square.

FWIW, for everyone I've ever bought dinner, drinks, swag, gifts or whatever, no reciprocation was ever expected, I did so because I wanted to. Peaches views of "southern hospitality" seem to have diverged from that of the FFN's at some point.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

I call bullshit.

You've been sliding digs in for weeks over on GFY. People ICQ me the links, I usually ignore 'em. Oh, I guess you were talking about someone else when you slapped a dig in there about Miss Nevada underage pics links? Again, bullshit, I know your style better than most.

The one with the drinks struck me as so incredibly petty I couldn't believe it so I called you out on it. Now you're dancing instead of owning up to it and looking bad for your remaining friends.

Just let it all go, please.

You have no idea how bad it is getting. First question out of almost everyone's mouth that I ran into in Vegas was "what the fuck is wrong with Peaches?" Either that or "told you so".

I hate to say it (no I don't) but I told you so.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

I hate to say it (no I don't) but I told you so.

Go ahead, I'm getting used to hearing it.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Go ahead, I'm getting used to hearing it.

Not your fault. She snowed a lot of people for a lot of time. When she melted down, it finally became obvious.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

The only reason I didn't speak to you guys in Vegas is because I felt you didn't like me. Seeing that doesn't seem to be the case any longer, I look forward to next time. Maybe Ron will be around, we can do a dinner.

Take Care,

The only time I saw you was at the bar. I didnt want to come in and cockblock you with that blonde cuz I had an uglier shirt on.

Nonetheless it looked like you guys were busy and it would have been rude to have interrupted.

Hope your show went well.

[Hell Puppy]

Originally Posted by Weg Cory

I harbor no ill-will towards any of you guys. While I admit that I was less than impressed with some of the rhetoric, I am confident we can all write it off as the past and move forward with a better future. I was never an angel in any of it myself.

If anything, you can't fault someone for defending a friend. No matter how grave it can seem at times, it is certainly a respectable quality.

The only reason I didn't speak to you guys in Vegas is because I felt you didn't like me. Seeing that doesn't seem to be the case any longer, I look forward to next time. Maybe Ron will be around, we can do a dinner.

Take Care,

Same here. We could've probably saved all of ourselves some grief with a sitdown anytime over the last year, and I regret not facilitating it.

Was gonna try to grab you for a few minutes in Vegas, but the couple of times I saw you, you were busy entertaining or doing business. And not being sure where your head was toward me, I didn't wanna interrupt.

It's a new year, I'm also willing to write it all off to experience and let by gones be by gones.

I'm going to hit more shows this year than I did last, so we'll tag up at some point for sure.

[Peaches]

Can I call it or what??! This is what I posted yesterday AM on another board:

Originally Posted by Peaches

It's funny - it seems they are trying to "legitmize" Oprano by aligning themselves with 12Clicks and Cory. If 12Clicks and Cory are sheep enough to take the bait will be interesting to watch Even funnier is Hellpuppy's either assuming I was referring to him in times I wasn't or is playing the readers. Hard to tell with him. He considers himself quite the mindgame player.

All this over little ol' me.

Congrats again, HP

Oh, and those of you PMing me here, please ICQ me - I check maybe once a day here and that's only because I have my own thread for now Now all the people I told to "fuck off" can be buddies.

And HP, next time you want to make reference to what I said, please try and keep it in context. I mentioned buying dinner/drinks ONLY because Gonzo constantly says I don't have a job but is more than willing to let me foot the bill.

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Can I call it or what??! This is what I posted yesterday AM on another board:


Congrats again, HP

Oh, and those of you PMing me here, please ICQ me - I check maybe once a day here and that's only because I have my own thread for now Now all the people I told to "fuck off" can be buddies.

And HP, next time you want to make reference to what I said, please try and keep it in context. I mentioned buying dinner/drinks ONLY because Gonzo constantly says I don't have a job but is more than willing to let me foot the bill.

uhhh, please tell me to "...fuck off" also ma'ma.
I'm aware I'm not involved in this mess. But hearing you say that just makes me all HARD and stuff

[softball]

Originally Posted by Rcourt64

uhhh, please tell me to "...fuck off" also ma'ma.
I'm aware I'm not involved in this mess. But hearing you say that just makes me all HARD and stuff

Have you actually ever seen Peaches....lmaorof.

[softball]

Originally Posted by Peaches

Can I call it or what??! This is what I posted yesterday AM on another board:


Congrats again, HP

Oh, and those of you PMing me here, please ICQ me - I check maybe once a day here and that's only because I have my own thread for now Now all the people I told to "fuck off" can be buddies.

And HP, next time you want to make reference to what I said, please try and keep it in context. I mentioned buying dinner/drinks ONLY because Gonzo constantly says I don't have a job but is more than willing to let me foot the bill.

Boy you sure can call them. You actually made one big mistake. Oprano doesn't need to be legitimized. You do. Ding!!!!!!!

Peaches, you are making more enemies than Confucy. Can I call them or what?

[Rcourt64]

Originally Posted by rhetorical

Have you actually ever seen Peaches....lmaorof.

Uhhh? I personally have never seen or met the lady, the only image of her I've seen is:


But regardless of what she looks like.
Its her character that fascinates me about her. She comes off as being so "Gun Hoe" with her competitive attitude and "go screw yourself" personality.

I'm personally not truly following this drama story that merged from another board, Just what I view here. So whatever is said elsewhere might become irrelevant here at Oprano when not reading the whole picture.
But its all still entertaining and I still thinks she Rocks

[Weg Cory]

Originally Posted by gonzo

The only time I saw you was at the bar. I didnt want to come in and cockblock you with that blonde cuz I had an uglier shirt on.

Nonetheless it looked like you guys were busy and it would have been rude to have interrupted.

Hope your show went well.

Originally Posted by Hell Puppy

Same here. We could've probably saved all of ourselves some grief with a sitdown anytime over the last year, and I regret not facilitating it.

Was gonna try to grab you for a few minutes in Vegas, but the couple of times I saw you, you were busy entertaining or doing business. And not being sure where your head was toward me, I didn't wanna interrupt.

It's a new year, I'm also willing to write it all off to experience and let by gones be by gones.

I'm going to hit more shows this year than I did last, so we'll tag up at some point for sure.

Sounds good guys.

[spazlabz]

I gots to get my fat ass to some dese shows man. meet some of the biz celebs


spaz