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Old 03-13-2003   #51
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i feel like I have a TON of energy.

im in WAY too good of a mood and actually feel more alert then ever
Forest, you sound just like my sister when she was on Atkins. I bet this works out well for you...
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Hey Forest,

I thought I would tear myself away from the news for a moment to see how the Atkins diet was treating you. How's it going after a week and a half?

Also, is it just me, or is Jane Skinner really cute?
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Ya Forest!! Give us an update!!

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Man oh man....I've had migraines since I was a child. I NEVER had the auras until about 3 years ago....then all of a sudden WHAM! The first time it happened I was convinced that I had a brain tumor...it was terrifying!

I don't get them every time I get a migraine...but I do get them maybe every 3rd time.

One thing I like about them is that they are sort of like my early warning system....the aura comes at least 1/2 hour to 45min. BEFORE the real pain of the migraine starts.....just enough time to get the meds in the system before it gets so bad you can't keep anything down.

I feel for ANYONE who gets migraines...I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy....well....maybe Saddam.

Let me know if you find anything naturopatic to take for migraines! I'd be very interested.

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As a matter of fact, my poor son Josh has inherited migraines from me...boohooo.....but most of the time he waits until it's too late to let me know he has one and then the meds won't stay down.

So if you see anything about treating kids with migraines shoot it my way!




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gigi, the principal of all natural medicine is that the body is a machine and every piece must be working properly or there will be squeaks and rattles from everywhere that are caused from somewhere else ...

unfortunately when your problem is as severe as migraines (i only got them for about a 2 year period then they disappeared but that 2 years was more than enough!!), your body is already broken. there's LOTS of changes you might have to make in your life such as eating organic fruit and vegetables that don't have pesticides on them, exercising regularly focusing on specific areas to keep the energy flowing through your system and eating AT LEAST 4 - 6 serves of fruit and veges per day ... THEN the natural therapist will start working on your migraines ;-)

my natropath told me "The problem with YOU PEOPLE is that you expect a solution to be instant, you want a magic pill that will fix it and you refuse to take care of yourself properly."



after i bitch slapped him i realized he was right ;-)

how is everyone going so far since this thread was started? voo?!?!? forest?!?! anyone got anything positive or negative to report?!
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Gigi, have you tried the triptans (for both you and your son)? Imitrex is the only one that works for me, but it's the greatest thing since sliced bread! They are completely non-drowsy, it's fast acting (especially the shots), and there have been times when normally I know I wouldn't have been able to get out of bed when I've been able to function. I still have some that the Imitrex takes a bit of the edge off, but can't get rid of, but instead of being bedridden 2-3 days a month, now it's a day every 2-3 months!

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My mother actually had encephalitis several years ago and kept going to the hospital getting demerol shots thinking she had another migraine

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That SO sucks Every female on my Mother's side has had them, and when I had John, I told the doctor in the delivery room I was glad it was a boy so he had better chance of not getting them. Hopefully they'll find better and better ways of treating/preventing them so he won't deal with them for long. I've had them since I was 13, and the advancements just in the last 10 years have been incredible!

Do you have them when you're pregnant? That was the only time I've EVER gone that long w/o one. I was ready to just stay knocked up

Here's a good newsgroup for info:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&...daches.migraine

And here's another good site:
http://www.meldrum.demon.co.uk/migraine/

I had a link somewhere of various vitamins to try....B's, Magesium, etc...I'll see if I can dig it up.
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how is everyone going so far since this thread was started? voo?!?!?
Uh... I really haven't done much. But I've got some great excuses:

1. Sweet T has this adorable three year old who calls me and invites me out to dinner all the time. I can't refuse when he says "Hoo Hoo, you wanna have Chinese with us?" haha

(Yes, he calls me Hoo Hoo)

2. I HATE to cook... anything beyond a cup of coffee is too much for me.

3. I LOVE to eat. I call it emotional nutrition. I'm single, so I'm sure I'm filling some kind of void.

All kidding aside, it's REALLY time I did something. I'm sure I would be more the fruit and veg type than Atkins, but the bottom line is I've got to get off my ass. 200 pounds is waaay too much for me.
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... am I the only one that noticed Vooman saying "filling a void" and following that with four bananas?

Anything you want to tell us about, Voo?

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i thought only single girls liked bananas in that way

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Okay, I should have used a smiley... sue me.
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All kidding aside, it's REALLY time I did something. I'm sure I would be more the fruit and veg type than Atkins, but the bottom line is I've got to get off my ass. 200 pounds is waaay too much for me.
Two words Voo... PUSH MOWER...
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You would not believe how much time I spend working in my yard...

Granted, my mower is self propelled, but it takes about 4 hours or so to cut the grass. Ask Sweet T how many tons of stone I moved around last summer. Me and my wheel barrow... haha
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You would not believe how much time I spend working in my yard...

Granted, my mower is self propelled, but it takes about 4 hours or so to cut the grass. Ask Sweet T how many tons of stone I moved around last summer. Me and my wheel barrow... haha
Indeed... see it isn't the weight... it's the wait (for winter to get over that is)... I know you work like a banshee on that 'yard' of yours... although I think 'grounds' it the proper term for one that size...lol

I'll stick with walking the golf courses and chasing that second hole in one for next 50 years and leave the landscaping to buff studs like you...

Seriously though, was up to 210 around my bday last November Voo, started with the water and fruit for breakfast, raw veggies/soups for lunch (no crackers), and whatever for dinner... Snacked on flavored oatmeal, fruits or raw veggies through day... Dropped a bunch before Jan show and still keeping it off... Me, I just gotta eat... merely have to find stuff that you can eat all you want and not worry about it... (if you actually like eating it that is a bonus)... lol
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You would not believe how much time I spend working in my yard...

Granted, my mower is self propelled, but it takes about 4 hours or so to cut the grass. Ask Sweet T how many tons of stone I moved around last summer. Me and my wheel barrow... haha
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Gigi, have you tried the triptans (for both you and your son)? Imitrex is the only one that works for me, but it's the greatest thing since sliced bread!
I don't know why but I've never ever gotten a perscription for my migraines...I hate taking meds if I don't have to...lol. Plain old extra strength tylenol works most of the time...sometimes I have to take 4 of 'em...but they work. Unfortunately, if I don't get them down before the nausea starts I'm screwed. So something that is fast acting for those times I'm hit too fast would definitely help!!

When I was a kid my parents just called them 'headaches'. I remember laying in my bed in a dark room on a beautiful sunny day, hearing my sisters and friends outside playing while my dad was sitting with me rubbing my head and putting cold clothes on me....I didn't even know they were migraines until I was in my 20's.....LOL

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Wow, I guess I'm sort of lucky that way with my manifestation....mine have never lasted more than a day.....and I might get one every 2 or 3 months....but let me tell you....that ONE is enough!!

Ick! Your poor mom!!! I guess the symptoms are that similar huh?

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Yeah, poor Josh. I feel so bad for him because I know exactly how it is being a kid. We went to a specialist and got him tested 2 years ago to be sure that was what he was getting and sure enough that was it.

The Tylenol seems to work with him too....but again, he's a kid and by the time he realizes he's in pain it's usually too late and the nausea is already there....that's the toughest for him.

We went to Canada's Wonderland (amusement park) 2 years ago and right in the middle of the day we had to take him to the first aid for tylenol because we didn't bring any with us....ick!! And by the time we gave it to him it was too late and he kept throwing it all back up.....sigh...it's a trial that's for sure. Again, something fast acting would be really beneficial in his case.

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I felt the SAME way with all of my preg's EXCEPT THIS ONEEEEEEE!!! I had a bout for 2 weeks straight....it sucked. Of course it had to happen during my first trimester when I'm also fighting weird food cravings and morning sickness...haha. I'm feeling better now though....and the migraines are less....maybe 1 a week right now.

Thanks for the migraine links!! I'll check 'em out!



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gigi, the principal of all natural medicine is that the body is a machine and every piece must be working properly or there will be squeaks and rattles from everywhere that are caused from somewhere else ...
That makes sooo much sense to me CJ. I'm really into the 'all natural', get your body working properly ideology...and I believe it.

BUT, I am soooo bad to my body...lol. I eat crap, sleep poorly, am inactive, smoke and on and on....

There are SOOOO many places in my lifestyle that I KNOW would help me with migraines if I only payed attention and worked on them.

I ate all organic produce for 3 years. Of course that didn't help when I was also eating crap on top of it....hehe.

I was also looking into Ayurveda...a naturopatic system rooted in India. I believe ,Vooman, we were discussing it before?

I am so ready to work on a naturopathic approach. I'm going to have to see who's in my area....

And your naturopath is right!! Where's that little pill dang it?? :P
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Oh puleeeeease Mark! I CANNOT believe you were 210!! I just can't believe that m'dear....you'll have to try again.
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I just started getting those auras about a year ago - didn't realize it was happening to others or that they were associated with migraines.

Actually - my catalyst seems to be allergy season. Right now we're having sand storms filled with pollen and crap from the coast that ends up out here in the desert. Being at my kids' ballgames 4-5 nights a week doesn't help either (geez I need a bubble!) but as soon as the sinus cavities start filling (I can actually FEEL them) - about an hour or so later the auras start - then about 2-3 hours later it's migraine time. Dark room, cool cloth on the forehead and absolute silence. It was so bad over the weekend that I snapped at my kid for chomping oatmeal too loudly. Oatmeal? Loud?

What usually works for me is that new Excedrin dissolve tab things - the caffeine kicks ass. I take 3 instead of 2 and I am medicine-phobic (allergic to aspirin and just about everything) the rest of the time so they work very well. It still takes about 6 hours for the whole thing to cycle, but these things generally only last a couple weeks on and off and then I won't see them again until Fall. *knock on wood*

Would love to see a naturopath - sounds like that's just what I need. What I've been doing so far for 33 years hasn't worked. Time to try something new.
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Hey Forest,

I thought I would tear myself away from the news for a moment to see how the Atkins diet was treating you. How's it going after a week and a half?

Also, is it just me, or is Jane Skinner really cute?
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I havent weighed myself yet because i dont have a reliable scale

BUT

i am wearing shorts I havent put on in 2 years!!!!

I have way too much energy and havent yelled at anyone in a week

My LOVE handles are slowly dissapearing

Its WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!



and I havent cheated once!!!!

But im supposed to have dinner with Mike and serge this week so i will be cheating with WINE!!!!
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My LOVE handles are slowly dissapearing

But im supposed to have dinner with Mike and serge this week so i will be cheating with WINE!!!!
Forest,
if your love handles are gone,
what should Mike and me fhold on to when we get too much wine?
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Evi called yesterday, she is a sweetheart and I told her how much we missed her
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my ass is still HUGE

you can each have 1 cheek

yeah evi e-mails me daily. She misses home (here NOT France LOL) and she is worried for her mom

we miss her here to. Im working WAY TO HARD!!!!

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Tylenol's do nothing for me - never have Not even for "regular" pain - my body's just not set up for them, lol!

Kath - watch out for the Ex. Strength Excedrins. I was taking those for migraines also - until I got a bleeding ulcer that put me in the hospital for a few days (this is what was wrong when I was in NOLA - it just took the doctors a few months, 8 pints of blood and $25K to figure it out :angry: ).

The triptans aren't pain killers at all. They work on the vascular system, which is where MY migraines start. They don't work for a lot of people (for instance, they don't do squat for my mother), but they work for me

My mother stopped having them when she hit menopause, then just recently (10 years later) started having them again. Odd.
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Kath - watch out for the Ex. Strength Excedrins. I was taking those for migraines also - until I got a bleeding ulcer that put me in the hospital for a few days (this is what was wrong when I was in NOLA - it just took the doctors a few months, 8 pints of blood and $25K to figure it out :angry: ).
YIKES!!!!!!!

Thanks for the heads up Peaches...just curious was it the Aspirin/Acetaminophen combo or the Aspirin free? I'm allergic to aspirin so I just take the acetaminophen/caffeine version - those quick tab things that melt in your mouth. For some reason as they melt, the meds seem to go straight into my jaw, up the side of my head and into the pain. I know they probably don't do that, but it feels like they get right into my system. Hey - if it works don't question. lol

BUT...your experience has got me worrying now. Hmmmmmmm.......
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Forest -

Go ahead and enjoy that dinner and some wine. Seriously. My hub would cheat on Atkins about 1 weekend every 30-days and for some reason the days after the cheat, his weight loss would boost.

However...when he cheated more than once a month, he didn't lose well - even hit a stall. So...if you limit your all-out meals with Serge and the gang to once monthly, you should be good to go.

BTW...I'm off Atkins again. For some reason it wasn't working this time. Got an appointment with the doc after Phoenix to run blood tests, etc. to see if anything has changed. The first time though it was "magical" - I lost like mad. Glad to hear you're feeling well and losing enough to wear those shorts! That's what it's ALL about!

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Forest -

Go ahead and enjoy that dinner and some wine. Seriously. My hub would cheat on Atkins about 1 weekend every 30-days and for some reason the days after the cheat, his weight loss would boost.

However...when he cheated more than once a month, he didn't lose well - even hit a stall. So...if you limit your all-out meals with Serge and the gang to once monthly, you should be good to go.

BTW...I'm off Atkins again. For some reason it wasn't working this time. Got an appointment with the doc after Phoenix to run blood tests, etc. to see if anything has changed. The first time though it was "magical" - I lost like mad. Glad to hear you're feeling well and losing enough to wear those shorts! That's what it's ALL about!

WTG!!!!!
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Thanks for the heads up Peaches...just curious was it the Aspirin/Acetaminophen combo or the Aspirin free? I'm allergic to aspirin so I just take the acetaminophen/caffeine version - those quick tab things that melt in your mouth. For some reason as they melt, the meds seem to go straight into my jaw, up the side of my head and into the pain. I know they probably don't do that, but it feels like they get right into my system. Hey - if it works don't question. lol

BUT...your experience has got me worrying now. Hmmmmmmm.......
It was the Aspirin/Acetaminophen/Caffeine combo, so you should be OK - acetaminophen alone doesn't do anything for me I may try the ones you're talking about just for the "minor" migraines. My body's almost immune to most pain killers, which is why the Imitrex is so great. When I broke my leg, they wanted to give me just straight Tylenol after the surgery....erm, no....
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Kath, like any diet program, the weight loss at the start is as good as it will get. With Atkins, you are basically removing certain food types and your body adapts to it... during the first part it works well, but as your body adapts, it is less effective.

There really isn't any easy replacement for less calories / more exercise - basic math. Don't just eat less - exercise more... the losses are there.

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Kath, like any diet program, the weight loss at the start is as good as it will get. With Atkins, you are basically removing certain food types and your body adapts to it... during the first part it works well, but as your body adapts, it is less effective.

There really isn't any easy replacement for less calories / more exercise - basic math. Don't just eat less - exercise more... the losses are there.

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Nope... more like half a glass is half a glass...

ANY diet is an improvement compared to over eating. Any exercise is better than none. Get up and walk around a bit... (or like me, buy a house with too many stairs!).

Atkins is good because, more than anything, it makes you think about what you eat, and keeps you away from certain things... you'll do good with it, I am sure! :-)

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Alex -

I think that's what my doc was getting at when he said 3 months on, 3 months off. The first 3 months kicked butt - I lost 52 pounds. During the off time I kept my exercize regimine (swimming/walking) and didn't gain back a pound - but I ate everything I wanted. No holding back. I went back ON but had to drop the swimming (cold weather) and still did the walking (about 3 miles with my sis in 4 times a week), stuck to the "plan" like glue and nada. I lost a dozen pounds but that was IT. It just stopped.

I think my metabolism was like "oh wait - we tried this before" - lol I kinda wish I hadn't gone off after 3 months - maybe the loss would have kept up. It's tough for me because walking/swimming are my only exercize options due to some back surgeries, etc. I still haven't gained any back - but the loss is on hiatus. Hoping the pool warms up soon - summer's coming - maybe that was the real trick!
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I havent weighed myself yet because i dont have a reliable scale

BUT

i am wearing shorts I havent put on in 2 years!!!!

I have way too much energy and havent yelled at anyone in a week

My LOVE handles are slowly dissapearing

Its WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!
Like you said forest, ITS WORKING!

many diet experts say that you shouldn't bother weighing yourself because it gives you a false impression of your success/failure and that the true way to tell if you are succeeding is

a) the waist band of your clothes
your energy levels (a feeling of flowing energy through your body)
c) your mood (ie, irritability gone)
d) your mental capacity to concentrate longer and think clearler

the least important measure of your success is how much weight you actually lose, this part follows naturally if you are achieving the rest of the objectives which feel way better than simply losing weight.

get ready (or maybe its already happened) for that first morning where you wake up, stretch, *smile* and jump out of bed.
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HOLY SHIT

getting dressed to go out to dinner with Serge and LL and i put on a size 34 pants!!!!!
jeans no less!!!!

wooohooo i was almost ready to go to a size 38 before the diet

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HOLY SHIT

getting dressed to go out to dinner with Serge and LL and i put on a size 34 pants!!!!!
jeans no less!!!!

wooohooo i was almost ready to go to a size 38 before the diet

Forest,
you are the man!
I'm sure you be 36 after the dinner
;-)))

I bought your favorit beer!
;-)))
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Colin

you must be fucking psycic

15.5 lbs



30 days and didnt exercise once

well unless you call the backseat vid exercise

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Good job!

Living in the country on a farm will take it off you too. If you are looking for a way to shed those last extra pounds, come out and I'll put you to work. I'm even getting muscles. Once I get horses it'll be even better.

I'm just a fucking goddess cowgirl- yeehaw!
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Excellent news Forest! I knew you could do it!

I did my own weight loss for the same time. I cut out for the past 3 weeks, all Fast food. I still drink soda, but will be cutting that out soon. I have limited myself portion wise and will stop eating once I feel I am full. I used to have a problem with this, and would eat everything in site. Serge can attest to this, as I almost ate a Sushi place out of business.

For excercise, it's been grappling and walking. I try to walk a mile every day. I take a one hour class of almost non stop Gracie Jiu Jitsu, and when we get the chance, 1 to 2 times a week at home for about 30 minutes. We are increasing the home rolling hopefully more now that my back is getting used to the pain involved with submissions. My endurance level has litreally jumped through the roof. I couldn't last more than 3 minutes rolling with a partner, now not a problem for the whole class.

I came down to Los Angeles withing 260lbs. I know weigh in at 247lbs! I have definition in my leg muscles! I'm picking my girl from the airport in about 2 hours, and am waiting for her to go gaga over the new lean look. =o)
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you lean mean porn machine

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Hollly SHIT

I just a little "oprano" research and my Fat thread has the most views of any thread on Oprano

HAHAHAHAHAH

Is that a Good thing?

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Awesome job Forest!!

You are an inspiration to meeeeeeeeee.....well, as soon as this kid pops you will be...hehe

Well done!

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Thanx,

pop that kid and get on the tread mill!!!

You Gooo Girl!!

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So Forest, this is still with Atkin's correct??

BTW, I heard on the news today that Dr. Atkins slipped and fell today hitting his head and he is in hospital in critical condition.....weird....
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So Forest, this is still with Atkin's correct??

BTW, I heard on the news today that Dr. Atkins slipped and fell today hitting his head and he is in hospital in critical condition.....weird....
yes atkins

has been verry easy for me

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keep up the good work Forest...
so you can make ANOTHER video for me...


here's a couple questions for everyone:

what has been the hardest for you to give up (or reduce):
carbs or sugar ??

and...

what are:
your favorite low-to-no carb snacks ??
your favorite low-to-no sugar snacks ??
your favorite protein meals and/or snacks ??

how much more do each of you still want to lose ??

what's the single most tempting food item you have to deal with ??

another reason water is SO important... it helps carry that fat
out of your system as a waste product... after-all fat doesn't evaporate...
it has to be flushed out in waste products... the extra water will also
help your skin look younger... have more moisture and help your skin
with elasticity - so as you lose weight you won't have terribly saggy skin...

good luck to everyone and congrats on caring enough about yourselves
to do something good for YOU...


be forewarned though... when I am able to get to my first ever webmaster
gathering (and I think that will be the Fla. - Aug. 03 event)... I will be
going around and checking you all out... seeing if I can pinch and inch
here and there (in addition to shaking your hands and saying Hello of
course...) - - - at least that sounds like a good excuse for me to
feel-you-all up.... LOL !!!!

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what has been the hardest for you to give up (or reduce):
carbs or sugar ??
SUGAR!!!!!
god damn sugar!!


your favorite low-to-no carb snacks ??
wheat free health bars


your favorite low-to-no sugar snacks ??
fruit - bananas, strawberries, natural sugars to eliminate cravings

your favorite protein meals and/or snacks ??
peanuts (mmmm cashews)

how much more do each of you still want to lose ??
none

what's the single most tempting food item you have to deal with ??
chocolate ;-(
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so how was the diet?
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Ice cream bar none

hagenDaz cookies and cream (i cheated lat night) LOL

This has been a verry easy diet for me.

I foud a sugar free Lowcarb baker in that area with bagels and bread and muffins and CHEESE CAKE!!!!!

all low carb and sugar free

Thank God

my goal weight I havent really set 1 but somewhere btwn 180-190
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