Blog Traffic...

[Nickatilynx]

everyone is having multiple orgasms over opening a blog and getting traffic from them in 5 days and loads of it.

tiny little problem....

It converts about as good as people coming in from TGPs or SE searchers that searched for "Free porn pic no credit card totally fucking free"

:)

[Lee]

Agreed :okthumb:

Thats why you need to maximise the traffic the same way as you would TGP traffic, if you know its shit traffic.. Find a way to trade it off for semi-decent traffic ;)

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Lee@May 18 2005, 08:23 AM
Agreed :okthumb:

Thats why you need to maximise the traffic the same way as you would TGP traffic, if you know its shit traffic.. Find a way to trade it off for semi-decent traffic ;)
Every hit is sacred.... :)

[Trev]

I would say that it would depend on what the blog is targeting. :)

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Trev@May 18 2005, 08:32 AM
I would say that it would depend on what the blog is targeting. :)
To an extent , yup.

But hey its early days , I look forward to someone saying "I just bought this Bentley as a result of blog traffic"

:)

[Trev]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+May 18 2005, 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ May 18 2005, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Trev@May 18 2005, 08:32 AM
I would say that it would depend on what the blog is targeting. :)
To an extent , yup.

But hey its early days , I look forward to someone saying "I just bought this Bentley as a result of blog traffic"

:) [/b][/quote]
I've got my fingers crossed it'll be me :yowsa:

[gonzo]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+May 18 2005, 11:25 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ May 18 2005, 11:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Lee@May 18 2005, 08:23 AM
Agreed :okthumb:

Thats why you need to maximise the traffic the same way as you would TGP traffic, if you know its shit traffic.. Find a way to trade it off for semi-decent traffic ;)
Every hit is sacred.... :) [/b][/quote]
Every email is precious

[Evil Chris]

I just bought this Jeep from Blog money.

(we're getting there) :lol:

[Jeremy]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@May 18 2005, 08:10 AM
everyone is having multiple orgasms over opening a blog and getting traffic from them in 5 days and loads of it.

tiny little problem....

It converts about as good as people coming in from TGPs or SE searchers that searched for "Free porn pic no credit card totally fucking free"

:)
Phooey.

It's because they've found a relatively easy source of traffic, but haven't got a fucking clue how to work it / convert it***.

Slapping some galleries into a blog script, doesn't make it a blog.

(As we all know, traffic isn't king, but if you really don't want that "Free porn pic no credit card totally fucking free" trafic.....).

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Jeremy+May 18 2005, 03:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jeremy @ May 18 2005, 03:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@May 18 2005, 08:10 AM
everyone is having multiple orgasms over opening a blog and getting traffic from them in 5 days and loads of it.

tiny little problem....

It converts about as good as people coming in from TGPs or SE searchers that searched for "Free porn pic no credit card totally fucking free"

:)
Phooey.

It's because they've found a relatively easy source of traffic, but haven't got a fucking clue how to work it / convert it***.

Slapping some galleries into a blog script, doesn't make it a blog.

(As we all know, traffic isn't king, but if you really don't want that "Free porn pic no credit card totally fucking free" trafic.....). [/b][/quote]
You know I'm begining to fancy you , don't you?

:)

[Nickatilynx]

But traffic is King...

Converting traffic that is....

:)

[Jeremy]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx+May 18 2005, 03:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Nickatilynx @ May 18 2005, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Jeremy@May 18 2005, 03:18 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@May 18 2005, 08:10 AM
everyone is having multiple orgasms over opening a blog and getting traffic from them in 5 days and loads of it.

tiny little problem....

It converts about as good as people coming in from TGPs or SE searchers that searched for "Free porn pic no credit card totally fucking free"

:)
Phooey.

It's because they've found a relatively easy source of traffic, but haven't got a fucking clue how to work it / convert it***.

Slapping some galleries into a blog script, doesn't make it a blog.

(As we all know, traffic isn't king, but if you really don't want that "Free porn pic no credit card totally fucking free" trafic.....).
You know I'm begining to fancy you , don't you?

:) [/b][/quote]
Wellllll, I like to think I am remarkably good-looking, but then I like to think a lot of things :-))

[Jeremy]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@May 18 2005, 03:24 PM
But traffic is King...

Converting traffic that is....

:)
Anything lower than 1:1 means you haven't sold them the right thing in the right way at the right time.

They all want to buy something. They may not even know it yet, but they do.

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Jeremy+May 18 2005, 03:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jeremy @ May 18 2005, 03:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nickatilynx@May 18 2005, 03:24 PM
But traffic is King...

Converting traffic that is....

:)
Anything lower than 1:1 means you haven't sold them the right thing in the right way at the right time.

They all want to buy something. They may not even know it yet, but they do. [/b][/quote]
Do you have any pics?



:)

[Trev]

Where's grimm to give us the guide on where this thread is heading :D

[Biggy]

nick, you get me loads of blog traffic, ill buy the traffic from you.

i know a guy with blogs, he puts my stuff up top, 10-15 sales easy, and im maybe 1 of 4 or 5 links he puts up daily on just one of his sites :)

[Nickatilynx]

Originally posted by Biggy@May 18 2005, 05:53 PM
nick, you get me loads of blog traffic, ill buy the traffic from you.

i know a guy with blogs, he puts my stuff up top, 10-15 sales easy, and im maybe 1 of 4 or 5 links he puts up daily on just one of his sites :)
moron!!!

I thought you were smart!!

Up goes the price of blog traffic!

;-)))

[BillPMB]

Converting traffic is cake if you have the right knife.

(this is where you read between the lines)

Because if the knife is sharp enough you don't have to get it wet to work properly.

(this is where you have the epiphany)

If you didn't have one spend another year at gfy

:bwave:

[sarettah]

Originally posted by BillPMB@May 18 2005, 11:54 PM
Converting traffic is cake if you have the right knife.

(this is where you read between the lines)

Because if the knife is sharp enough you don't have to get it wet to work properly.

(this is where you have the epiphany)

If you didn't have one spend another year at gfy

:bwave:
The sad part is that I understand that completely.

Yet have not a clue how to put it to use.

:(

[RyanLanane]

Isn't that a contradictory statement? :)

[twan]

You can learn from other blogs, study how they make income and then just copy that. Much better then trying yourself :rolleyes:

[Trev]

Originally posted by twan@May 19 2005, 11:50 AM
You can learn from other blogs, study how they make income and then just copy that. Much better then trying yourself :rolleyes:
Welcome to Oprano :)

[twan]

Originally posted by Trev+May 19 2005, 02:52 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Trev @ May 19 2005, 02:52 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-twan@May 19 2005, 11:50 AM
You can learn from other blogs, study how they make income and then just copy that. Much better then trying yourself :rolleyes:
Welcome to Oprano :)[/b][/quote]
Thanks :bwave:

[Phoenix]

traffic is king but so is the art of the sale...some solid presell text/pics/material will help turn around even shitty traffic...traffic is precious

[adamneve]

Originally posted by Phoenix@May 19 2005, 03:14 AM
traffic is king but so is the art of the sale...some solid presell text/pics/material will help turn around even shitty traffic...traffic is precious
not precious Traffic is gold

[sarettah]

Originally posted by RyanLanane@May 19 2005, 01:44 AM
Isn't that a contradictory statement? :)
Not really. I have an uncanny ability to be able to comprehend stuff on the theoretical yet fail miserably on the practical :unsure:

Comprehension and implementation are two totally different things (imho)

[BillPMB]

Originally posted by adamneve+May 19 2005, 03:33 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (adamneve @ May 19 2005, 03:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Phoenix@May 19 2005, 03:14 AM
traffic is king but so is the art of the sale...some solid presell text/pics/material will help turn around even shitty traffic...traffic is precious
not precious Traffic is gold [/b][/quote]
You are correct there, so why weren't you counting all of the traffic that I sent to pussycash? I have my out stats, and they were far short of what you counted.

Where's the rest of my gold?

[aeon]

Originally posted by BillPMB@May 19 2005, 05:57 AM
Where's the rest of my gold?
prolly with the little leprechaun carrying a pot of gold and a razor.

[gonzo]

Originally posted by twan@May 19 2005, 05:50 AM
You can learn from other blogs, study how they make income and then just copy that. Much better then trying yourself :rolleyes:
"Ding, fries are ready"

[el pres]

With my surfing hat on I fucking hate bloggs.. messing about with se listings.

If want info on something I dont want to have to wade through
pages of some cunt's moronic ramblings.

But as a webmaster they're fucking peachy!

I've got the missus fiddling about with some Spanish ones, let her do the grunt work, it stops her going shopping for shoes.

[Vick]

Originally posted by sarettah@May 19 2005, 08:44 AM
Comprehension and implementation are two totally different things (imho)
Leave my sex life out of this, ok?! :yowsa:

[JizBiz]

It is like anything i beleive, you cant just toss traffic at it and have it magically convert, you want to filter it down and only shoot for the targeted traffic.

Heres an example of stats from 2 small blogs i run, one getting hits from yahoo and the other getting hits from yahoo and google.

Both these are hits from the 15th and 16th til today, and for only 2 blogs.

This is a squirting blog, i dont update it and is basically just a static site, what makes it kind of cool is its on bloggers, free host, something started as kind of a test. This was a slow week on it, it usually converts at about 1/25 join page clicks.

http://www.yourxxxmembership.com/stats.jpg


And then this one with alot less traffic but strictly from the search engine yahoo. I often login to see only 10-15 hits to flashcash with one or 2 sales.

http://www.yourxxxmembership.com/stats1.jpg

Now this one has 2 more sales down beneath what ive cut but it gives a excellent example of HOW they should convert if you use your head.

I think that if you follow the true form of the blog and not make it a glorified tgp, thats when you can begin to reap the rewards of it. Just like anything else, it all depends what your main traffic source is. And how well you can sell them when they get there.

One thing i can assure you of is all you'll find on them blogs is one or 2 pictures to presell and links to the sponsor, coupled with some quality text, and its in the bag. No-ones beating off to these pages, they have to pay for that.

If you update regular and give them a few galleries or videos, in 3 weeks you would have enough content for them to whack off too for a month. Fuck them, give them a couple QUALITY pictures and send them to the tour or trailers.

[Nickatilynx]

Nice Jiz :)

So yr converting 1 in 250 on there count?

Also how many hits do you get to the site?

[JizBiz]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@May 19 2005, 11:25 PM
Nice Jiz :)

So yr converting 1 in 250 on there count?
Yes and usually does about 1/140 to 1/200.

I added some links to those blogs, from another couple sites i run, shortly after the initial listings in the engines to increase my links and rankings, and with that came some trickles of traffic from them, which in turn lowered my conversion abit. Because it was a little less filtered traffic.

And im still a newbie at filtering and directing the traffic, im sure with some more time i will be down to much more impressive rates. :rolleyes:

BTW these sites are part of a pretty big matrix i put together a while ago, and only 3 of about 40 or so are showing in the engines where they should, within the next month or two this should be responsible for about 150-250k hits to the sponsor a month network wide. (500-750 per site per day, per paysite) with my initial goal to convert it at 1/500. The initial results showing the past 2 weeks show me ill be fairly close on the traffic estimates and perhaps better on the conversions.

Ill keep you posted you can bet..heh


The top one from trafficcashgold see about 1000 uniques a day and sends about 250 of them to the sponsor (increases by 10-15% everyday) and the other one sees about 500 uniques a day and sends about 250 a day to the sponsor, but converts at about 1/80 hits to the sponsor, (all yahoo traffic)

Small ammounts of traffic per site, but completely targeted, if they hit my page they are buyers, and they are looking for what im selling, its like being the only beer store in town, and trades and hardlinks?...all go to more of my shit with no freebies as well, if they are gonna beat off they are paying to do so

[Nickatilynx]

Again nice , awesome job and I "found" the blog , so having seen it awesome job again ;-))

You have come a long way mate :)

Out of everything you wrote , my only criticism is where you said "1 in 25 join page conversions" and frankly being concerned with ratios when you have little info of your own to no what they are. ;-))

You have absolutely no idea what you convert at or what you are sending out...Don't buy into the scam ;-)

Read Bills posts above ..... know what traffic YOU send out , not what they say you send , and THEN you'll know what you convert at ;-)

If not before you know it you will be discussing UVOVUNS with Serge ;-)

[Nickatilynx]

"""And im still a newbie at filtering and directing the traffic, im sure with some more time i will be down to much more impressive rates.""""

NO!!!!!!!!!

Only a fucking moron boasts about conversion rates , boast about how much you fucking earned not about what you converted at!!! ;-)))


You can filter traffic from SE's like fuck , and refine it and send 350 clicks (your count) converting to 5 sales (on their count) for a fan- fucking-tastic ratio of 1 in 70.

Me ? I'm really crap at filtering traffic and all that stuff ,I'd take the gross amount of traffic to the site , enjoy the Server Redirect and send 3000 (my count) hits converting to 6 sales at a sucky ratio of 1 in 500.

:)

[JizBiz]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@May 20 2005, 12:00 AM
Again nice , awesome job and I "found" the blog , so having seen it awesome job again ;-))

You have come a long way mate :)

Out of everything you wrote , my only criticism is where you said "1 in 25 join page conversions" and frankly being concerned with ratios when you have little info of your own to no what they are. ;-))

You have absolutely no idea what you convert at or what you are sending out...Don't buy into the scam ;-)

Read Bills posts above ..... know what traffic YOU send out , not what they say you send , and THEN you'll know what you convert at ;-)

If not before you know it you will be discussing UVOVUNS with Serge ;-)
Thanks Nick its a neverending process...and yes i ALWAYS read Bills posts along with many others here.

Agreed about the "know what you send" aspect, a fella i work with/for is having some nice scripting done to monitor that stuff and im hoping by next week i will have some interesting info to scour over.

Should aid me in my little journey..haha i know im nowhere near my destination yet.

Also, not sure what UVOVUNS is but id be willing to listen if thats what i needed to do to have a chat with Serge...haha

[Nickatilynx]

Jiz,

You have got your Masters degree already LOL

My comments were "further reading" is all ;-)))

Serge used run the doctorate program , but he's retired ;-))

[JizBiz]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@May 20 2005, 12:10 AM
"""And im still a newbie at filtering and directing the traffic, im sure with some more time i will be down to much more impressive rates.""""

NO!!!!!!!!!

Only a fucking moron boasts about conversion rates , boast about how much you fucking earned not about what you converted at!!! ;-)))


You can filter traffic from SE's like fuck , and refine it and send 350 clicks (your count) converting to 5 sales (on their count) for a fan- fucking-tastic ratio of 1 in 70.

Me ? I'm really crap at filtering traffic and all that stuff ,I'd take the gross amount of traffic to the site , enjoy the Server Redirect and send 3000 (my count) hits converting to 6 sales at a sucky ratio of 1 in 500.

:)
Agreed again but i have some rules to follow to have the engines agree with my pages and too maintain a long term presence i have to stick with the rules. Im still in the process if figuring out the best ways to deal with the traffic but i do know some of the things i cant do with it..haha

Im trying to establish long term independant sources that i can add to at a whim and build stuff focusing solely on a spider, in order to do it

I wouldnt boast about the conversions but i have some good data to answer the post question, and beleive that it can "convert" better then alot of the standard methods used by "most" webmasters..heh (damn you guys keep a guy on his toes)
But i think thats because it is a fresh market or marketing method, which means opportunity.

And as always, im completely open to advice and suggestions :D

[JizBiz]

Originally posted by Nickatilynx@May 20 2005, 12:24 AM
My comments were "further reading" is all ;-)))

Comments and further reading (research) are what taught me what i have learnt

I value them as much as my own business.

(well most of them) :okthumb:

[twan]

Thanks for giving such valuable and interesting data jizbiz! :okthumb:
I've dragged this thread to my desktop for later inspection.