[TheEnforcer]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

You know, frankly? If we are stupid enough as a culture to think that Johnny KNoxville and Steve-O are people to emulate, then... Yeh. We deserve to be eclipsed culturally.

For a lot of people, my life as it stands would be problematic. I make choices willingly and with full knowledge and consent many wouldn't and would find to be abhorrent. You can't yell "fire" in a crowded theatre because it jeopardises the lives of others - which point I made above, with reference specifically to keeping people safe.

Let's be completely honest here, guys. You don't like MAX so you think it's OK. His methods may suck, but it's not the content that's the problem - and that's what the case was about. The problem everyone has with Max is about him as a person and his business methods - and that's fine. But that's not the question at hand, and while it's an easy tangle to get in, it's really immaterial. 'Cos to the best of my knowledge, he wasn't put away for how the talent was treated - the trial was about shipping of "obscene materials." Same with Stagliano's case, if I am not mistaken.

As far as the legal ramifications, my personal stance on the case as it has been tried remains the same: I don't have to like his content to stand behind his right to shoot it. His methods weren't on trial here.

Intelligent women are SOOOOOOOOO hot!!!!! Once again Liz nails it.