[DannyCox]

We also have many long time members that stopped using credit cards and go through the tedious money order and mail process because they have been taken by others in this industry. It's not that they no longer trust us, they just no longer trust the whole system, especially the billing companies that not only allow, but promote, these shady practices.

I always think it's quite funny that our sometimes vocal billing company reps never respond in threads such as this.