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Originally Posted by CuriousToyBoy
I don't disagree Morgan, one of the things I love most about this place has been the "put up or shut up" attitude of the hardcore members towards new faces.
I myself was put through intitiation by fire when I first began posting (ah, the sweet memories), but unlike MANY others over time, I stepped up to the plate, copped it sweet and gave it back as good as I got. And here I am today bad Elton John tune playing in background.
Oprano to me has always been about establishing your bonafides, and my PERSONAL concern about the guest thing is it lets peeps hide behind the veil of anonymity.
There may obviously be a method behind that madness that I am unaware of (and I could almost smell that with this being Nick's board), and I respect that, it is just personally I see the cons altogether too clearly. That is my 2c and my 2c only.
On your workshop idea, the real pity is that the really sad thing about common sense is that it is not so common.
But you and I and like minded others can ALWAYS enjoy some cold beverages and each other's company, anytime - mi casa es su casa when it comes to friends IMHO.
We can even invite Gonzo. That way we can also have donuts.
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I have often wondered why on earth it's even called "common sense." It seems an oxymoron at the very least. It's like manners. Didn't all adults at some point have mothers who said "be polite"? Or at the very least, didn't a grade school teacher or two raise the subject? What on earth happened? I wasn't given the impression that my mother's mandate (for it was indeed a "mandate," no options here!) on good manners had an expiration date. "You only have to be polite when you're a child...but when you get to be an adult, all rules expire and you can be an idiot - especially in your place of business because that's just ever so becoming and will guarantee you go far."
A story:
My youngest daughter was in a spelling bee in middle school. The word given was "doughnuts." She, being my daughter, spelled it "doughnuts." The teacher cleared his throat, looked startled, and said "uh...of course that's correct, however I was looking for 'donuts.'" My daughter gaped at him until he blushed scarlet. She fumes about that to this day.
You's a gwown-up, CTB, and may of course spell the word however you choose.

(You may *not,* however, spell "bouquet" as "bokay" as the florist in town did until I went in and said "if I buy one from you will you change that horrible sign?!?!?!?" The owner looked at me and said "you're kidding. It doesn't really say that?")
I bring this whole thing up because of that very human quirk. Ever been with someone who mispronounces a word horribly...then you find three seconds later you have to use the same word and do the mind scramble trying to find a replacement word so that you don't have to either A. mispronounce it, too, so you don't embarrass your friend or B. pronounce it correctly and just hope for the best?
I was going to make a cute little bit about "doughnuts?!?!?!? There will be *dougnuts*!!!!"

I even had the smilie mentally picked out. Then I hit a wall. That's not how I spell that word. (I think it's fallen into general usage so much it's no longer considered a misspelling by most dictionaries.) But...it's not how I spell it. I tried to force myself to spell it your way. My fingers said "nope." So I told the story about my daughter and the spelling bee...and then dragged out the happy smilie.
I like doughnuts, no matter how they're spelled. Especially the old fashioned kind. I really, really liked the Dunkin' Donuts ones with the handle built into them...although I never dunk them. I think that's a great way to screw up a cup of coffee.
I think we need Gonzo in here with some virtual dough/do/nuts!