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Old 03-24-2005   #12
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Originally posted by cj@Mar 23 2005, 07:10 PM
hp, that drives me nuts too ....

in defense of designers though, most of us are trained to work in photoshop or a graphics program ... and few designers now have had any training on desktop publishing programs which allow you to see a 'page' as opposed to a graphic.

I find often if I want to design a flyer or something for print, I have to go into photoshop and whip it up to 'see' it before I can reconstruct it in a vector based program - and I trained originally as a print designer!!

its mostly laziness ... since imageready launched with the last version of photoshop, few designers even bother editing the page to add text to the graphics.

I have a way now to merge my laziness with my practical knowledge of how a web page should be built ... big graphic on the top, text/tables at the bottom LOL http://www.giantvegas.com/ladies_night.html
Ok, this should give you an idea of how fucked up I am when it comes to design....

Little Known Hellpuppy Fact: In college, I made a little walking around money doing typography and graphic design.

We're talking old school here. The Mac had just debuted. There was no WYSIWYG. You created the type on an old nasty terminal that only showed you the code, set it on typesetter, develop the film in processor, and then you get your glue and exacto knife and you cut and paste to build the page baby!

I learned code markup on old Compugraphic equipment (now Agfa). The sucker didn't even kern text automatically, you had to do it by hand. Want a capital A next to a capital V to be nice and tight? You had to do a backpoint. AV should do it in most fonts.

Gotta key all that text by hand, and you cant even proof it without taking the time to set it on the typesetting, then develop the damned film. And if you dont get it right within 1 or 2 tries, you get yelled at for wasting film and chemicals.

A designer gets no sympathy from me when I ask him to make a section of a page HTML instead of a graphic.

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