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Originally posted by Colin@Jan 3 2005, 05:23 AM
Some people DO win at poker and they win big. How do you win and not look like a cheater?
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I'll take stab at it Colin... For me I guess would it be by winning consistantly over an ever increasing period of time... Over an increasing timespan, luck (re: randomness) evens out and skill of playing becomes more determining factor of win vs loss.
Winning play has a pattern, sure there are bluffs and risky bets, but over time; if you win you will follow a general method of play. Any method of cheating, again over time, will show diviations from that normal winning pattern.
Example, a winning player might get a lucky reraise from someone else in pot when they have the nuts (best hand)... This person won't be there betting into him every hand though, driving up the pot. Collusion though, could involve one person 'running rabbit' for another player and bumping the pot, check raising, or doing whatever to increase size of win or push other moderate (but winning hands) out of the pot. Problem is they would have to do this with each other over and over for it to be ongoing con. And when they went to get money, whoopsie, lookit what we found when we analyzed your hand history...
Your idea that 4 guys at table telling each other what their hands are would indeed be helpful... But if that is their con, then they would be at 7Stud or Omaha tables where knowing 4 hands of hole cards would be HUGE advantage. Preflop, 4 guys = 8 cards in holdem, 8 in Stud with 1 more at end and 16 in Omaha... True in stud you would know same number of hole cards preflop, but because nature of that game doesn't rely on community cards, knowing what is 'dead' would be bigger advantage than in Holdem where 5 of 7 are shared cards.
Dunno, to me it's like the idea that any networked pc is hackable to some degree... but is the reward of cracking it open worth the effort it requires? That depends on the person doing the hacking and what's on the machine. Well, online poker is kinda like that... Yes, there are ways to cheat; but are you going to reap any rewards from those efforts AND are the efforts worth the rewards?