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Originally posted by rhymer@Dec 9 2004, 04:42 PM
First off. .... Secondly. .... Thirdly... etc.
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This is what I´m talking about ... endless rhetoric. No WMD, No Al Qaeda, Imperialisme Bad etc. - It doesn´t matter... facts are that Saddam is gone (no need to fear WMD anymore), terrorists showed up at the battle ground (there are plenty of Al Qaeda links now), there will be elections (democracy and freedom have arrived).
So whatever reason you might have had to be against the war before - they have been outdated. The goals have changed to fit the new situation - its called to be adaptable, the basic thing you need to survive (if you belive in Darwin). Endless rhetoric is not survival - its what the fundamentalist islamists are doing, and they are losing.
25 million iraqis are getting ready to become part of the world community again, and in the west we keep debating the iraq war like it could be undone, when in the real world there is only ONE way and thats forward - that is what we should be debating. How we get iraq back on its feet, how we secure that those 25 million people will prosper. Forget the reason(s) to why we invaded Iraq - start thinking what we can do when we are there!
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We all want the world to be a safer place, but this is totally the wrong way to go about it.
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Ofcourse there are other ways, but you need to debate those ways instead of trying to blame. You can not make other people see your visions, if you never talk about them....