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Originally posted by Mike AI@Dec 7 2004, 09:13 PM
Innocent until proven guilty??? COME ON!!! next you will want by a jury of their peers!!
Are you French??
To extend Civil Rights extended by the US Constitution to terrorists is exactly what the left is trying to get accomplished. This type of stupid idea only leads people to think the left is trying to do anything to undermine this war, President and Country.
These people are not even POWs, they are terrorists.
PD, maybe you want to cuddle some guys at Guantanamo as you explain the US Consitution to them.
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I don't recall anyone saying anything about "constitutional rights" for prisoners. It is just another misrepresentation made by ignorant right wingers convinced that anyone who doesn't agree with them can't possibly care about the country. Some morons are going to think those that oppose them are "trying to do anything to undermine this war, President and Country" simply because they either lack the intellectual capabilities to understand a difference of opinion, or are too fucking intellectually lazy to bother with genuine thought.
For the record, I don't think you are lacking in intellectual capabilities.
There have been American standards for the treatment of military prisoners since at least the Civil War. There is no reason to abandon them now. Acting even remotely like Saddam will do us far more damage in the very real war on terror than any possible gain we can garner from it. You cannot possibly terrorize terrorists out of being terrorists. The only thing this kind of treatment will accomplish is to serve as recruiting poster children for the terrorists.
Put me in charge of Gitmo tomorrow, and the place will be empty by Christmas. People with no intelligence value who do not represent an ongoing threat will be sent home. The rest will not be a problem for anyone ever again.
As far as being French ... while I still believe you would have made a more than adequate "good little German", you'd have made an even better right-wing Frenchman under the Third Republic. Those are the people who were far more worried about leftists than they were about what was going on to their east.
Come to think of it, you'd have functioned just as well as a right-winger under the 4th Republic. You could have been embittered by the unwillingness fight on someplace in the East, and ...
Oh, wait. The French 4th Republic fell after/because of another war. Who were they fighting then?