firstly, let me say DUH - of course we all know mike & the purecash crew are not involved in KP in any way .... I don't recall anyone saying they did, or accusing them of that. The thought never even crossed my mind ...
the points that are being made by Alex and myself are that the term NON NUDE belongs to KP .... period. you can't take a term back, reclaim it, change its meaning ... i'm not going to go through search engines and sites and point out the borderline nature of the niche - when I raised the point about evil chris's site, Little April, being borderline I was told to get over it ... and yet I had a site with a pic of Lindsay Lohan's panties on it and was jumped on from all sides.
When you pick up a copy of FHM, does it say 'non nude'?
What about Maxim or any of the other 'skin' mags that specialize in tease? If they did it they would be jumped on, imagine what would happen if the media got ahold of the porn industry doing it? Don't we have enough to fight against?
Sykk, yes celebrity does do well in this niche - its called mainstream ... you know, the business that adult is a niche of!?
It always makes me laugh how pornographers think they've found gold when they finally get something that mainstream has always done ... 'non nude' as you call it, summarizes the entire world outside of porn, so why does it have to just have 1 term or be considered a niche when it is a bigger market than porn is?
I'm building some tgp galleries currently that fit into this 'niche', but they are sorted & named as follows:
big screen babes
best big screen bikinis
topless
models
tease
etc
I just finished this one, which is a combination tgp gallery/tour featuring movies of fall/autumn ... its aimed at adult surfers, but has nothing to do with porn ...
http://www.privatecelebrity.com/in_cinemas/fall04/
as far as the adult 'niche' goes, I can't think of anything better than 'semi clothed' ... but Mike, just to stress this point again, even using a KP term, I never thought for a minute you were crossing any lines - just that it was the wrong choice of term. Leave the borderlines to the followers - you are a leader & we rely on you to make the right judgement calls ... if *you* of all people start to cross those lines, we are all doomed.