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Originally posted by Opti@Oct 16 2004, 11:06 PM
I wasnt suggesting you were anti bush ever btw.. I was really just wondering. I feel like i remember almost everyone was anti-bush immediately prior to 9/11... him being unintelligent was a constant topic of threads.. and it stopped dead that day and didnt start again for almost 2 years.
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I did prefer Bush to Gore. Just was my personal preferrence. Right now, voting for Bush or Kerry is me like being asked to choose between sucking a cock or getting fucked in the ass. Either way, I will be ashamed, walking with a limp or be left with a funny taste in my mouth.
I think that people need to be careful in seperating the issues and what constitutes "supporting Bush". I did support going into Iraq before the fact, based on the evidence, the history, the patterns of behavior and the changing paradigms in national security.
People outside the US who are largely polarized against Bush cannot understand that "anyone but Bush" does not mean "better than Bush"... and they are not the ones in the crosshairs. They think Americans voted for Bush because they are idiots and in their limited understanding of the issues that are important to voters, there is no other answer.
I was deeply dissapointed when Powell went to the UN. That sort of turned my stomach a little. I thought they would lay out a solid case for invading Iraq and was left feeling that they had very little evidence to justify it and Powell was (in my opinion) really reaching in a lot of the conclusions in his presentation. At that point, I would have supported the invasion had they simply said "hey man, these fuckers keep saying "fuck you" and won't cooperate. 10 years is enough. This is now also a security issue and we are going to depose him".
Now Bush, though his behavior and with the help of people who oppose both him domestically and abroad have made the notion of supporting the invasion synonymous with supporting lies and falsehoods and a flaky idiot with nuclear weapons who speaks to God. But I do believe that it was indeed time to start picking up the slack where the UN fails and start putting pressure on rogue regimes to either back off the extremism or pay the price. If the UN was effective at curbing the behavior of insane regimes, Saddam would still be happily subverting the oil for food program today.