[Lee]

And throwing parties that get webmasters drunk and laid gets you more webmaster traffic?!

It worked for Lightspeed didnt it?

Which comes first then, the content or the traffic?

Traffic.. to the site, only when you have the traffic should you start offering those other tools. Also, dont confuse 'content' with 'exclusive content' there *IS* a difference as i am sure you are aware

Yes ... webmasters want content & quality sites provided for them because traffic is so easy to generate, any college dropout can do it ... again, which comes first, content or traffic?

I really think you are wrong on this CJ go to ANY other webmaster forum out there and ask what an affiliate looks for in a sponsor.. i GUARANTEE you that content is way down on the list after FHGs and the likes.

Content is nothing when a webmaster choses a program?!?!!? what a load of rubbish!! The 100% reason why a webmaster choses to promote your site is your content ... your content IS your site, the design, the photos, the movies etc is ALL CONTENT. The other factors like payout etc are secondary - if your content is good, the webmaster will at least TEST your program.

No they wont. What you are saying was true a few years ago, have you actually been to any of the webmaster forums lately to see the mentality of these 'affiliates'? What *WE* looked for in choosing an affiliate program ISNT what todays breed of 'adult' (i do use that term VERY lightly) webmaster looks for.

1) How much they will make is based on the quality of your site, how well it converts and retains (even on PPS, if a program retains bad you don't get paid much per signup) and several other factors which revolve around the relationship between content and traffic ... NOT one or the other.

No it isnt, im sorry and really want you to know that im not tryiing to be argumentative for the sake of it. The 'content' used in a paysite is in no way indicative of what the payout levels will be. 99% of affiliate program owners decide on what their payouts are going to be before they even buy their first set of content today. I know its not the right way to go about things, you know its not the right way to go about things but the truth is, that is the truth.

2) How often you get a webmaster drunk, high or laid has NOTHING to do with how much money they will make or how much they will make you. The webmasters who choose sponsors based on who provided the most beer are of no interest to me.

I never said it would reflect on how much money will be made but ultimately, todays breed of webmaster factors this in when choosing an affiliate program, again, it worked for Lightspeed.

I would agree with you to, webmasters that choose sponsors solely on how drunk the said sponsor gets them are of no interest to me either. I have enough problems with freeloading surfers on the web without having to wory about what a drunk freeloading webmaster is going to be doing on the other side of the fence.

3) Again, How much of the work you will do for them means 'how much content will you develop for them' ... a site is content in itself, not just the pics that are published on it.

No it doesnt, again you are twisting my words, webmasters in todays adult industry do not WANT to work, they want the affiliate program to build their sites for them, host those sites for them and even provide them with traffic.

WE both know that content is more than just the images and stories utilized inside and outside the paysites unfortunately, the average webmaster of today doesnt LOL

If we as affiliate owners do not provide the tools for promotion, the hosting, the free sites, the free galleries, the submission services etc affiliates wont promote you. Again, it really is that simple.

Todays adult webmaster is a lazy mother fucker who wants everything, including the moon on a stick.

Everything you said supports my point even more ... traffic is EASY to get, good content & presentation of that content isn't as common. If you have good content and presentation, traffic will be attracted to your sites - this works for both webmasters AND surfers.

Traffic and content are both easy to get there is no denying that but without traffic you cant afford to employ the content on your sites. Even if you make 100 exclusive shoot paysites, you still only have 100 exclusive custom shoot paysites until that traffic starts to flow and, until that traffic starts to flow you have nothing.

To get the traffic flowing you need to get the webmasters attention to get their attention you apparently have to throw lavish parties where they can get drunk, high and laid for free. Again look at Lightspeed, it worked for them.

In fact, didnt ARS jut recently go to only exclusive content on ther sites? I didnt see them out in force at the recent show.. could it be because their traffic levels have decreased? Things that make you go hmmm.....

Regards,

Lee