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Originally posted by Peaches@Jul 16 2004, 07:29 PM
OK, Smartypants, just for shits and grins let's say she wrote like a 4 year old  That doesn't make the event go away.
At this point, young middle eastern men, traveling together, with foreign passports, have flown planes into buildings and killed people. And they are saying they will do it again. WHY NOT check them more strigently at the airport? Please explain to me why going through this group's bags, checking their passports against lists we all know the feds keep, checking their person more carefully BEFORE they got on the plane is such a violation of these non-citizen's rights. 
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ahem, civil rights and liberties extend only to American citizens in this country, the last time i heard.
The authorities have the right to detain anyone they like without proof of permanant or temporary american citizenship, to a degree. This degree extends to a much larger level than the one we are operating at. If we want to detain passengers for suspicious activity, we have the right to. There is no international law against it. The only fallout would be the same action taken by foreign governments to American citizens traveling abroad. Which, in essence, is a very god thing. Tighten security worldwide, even if out of spite, and you are doing the citizens of the world a favor.
Civil liberties, when boiled down, are a joke. An ill defined, constantly morphing set of guidelines to control standards and practices of the actions of one human against another outside the bounds of criminality. Sandbox rules, in other words. Nebulous codes of ethics without borders. The time for civil liberties is over, especially inside of your own countries borders.
As a caveat.. Civil Liberties are not CIVIL RIGHTS. Civil rights are bound by doctrine, legislation, constitution and statute, both domesticaly and internationaly.