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Originally posted by RawAlex@Jun 22 2004, 08:04 AM
Buff, talk about typical debate club bullshit.
if someone is against the specific actions taken by bush, then they have to be "for the bad guy". Not liking Bush's personal war on Saddam doesn't mean we were all going to go over and give him a hug and tell him how nice of a dictator he is.
It's stupid.
When you want to talk about re-writing history, let's talk about Chenney still talking about how Saddam and BinLadin were best buddies and they were both working together to get the US. Let's talk about how the Bush administration has managed to make the US public believe that the war in Iraq is as a result of the 9/11 attacks, that Saddam is somehow personally responsible. Let's talk about how the whole WMD thing just sort of disappeared into the wind... and how suddenly that wasn't the justification for war.
No movie in the world can be as bad as the reality that is Bushworld.
Alex
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Did You see the movie or read the rest of what Hitchens wrote? Obviously not. See, you're stupid, because that's exactly what Moore does, you idiot!
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We are introduced to Iraq, "a sovereign nation." (In fact, Iraq's "sovereignty" was heavily qualified by international sanctions, however questionable, which reflected its noncompliance with important U.N. resolutions.) In this peaceable kingdom, according to Moore's flabbergasting choice of film shots, children are flying little kites, shoppers are smiling in the sunshine, and the gentle rhythms of life are undisturbed. Then—wham! From the night sky come the terror weapons of American imperialism. Watching the clips Moore uses, and recalling them well, I can recognize various Saddam palaces and military and police centers getting the treatment. But these sites are not identified as such. In fact, I don't think Al Jazeera would, on a bad day, have transmitted anything so utterly propagandistic. You would also be led to think that the term "civilian casualty" had not even been in the Iraqi vocabulary until March 2003.
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Face it, Alex, many of the people who are on YOUR side DO think Hussein is the good guy and Bush is the bad guy.