Ok, a few serious points here.
1) A father's beliefs and his child's. We've all seen that in extermist points of view the child can sometimes become just like the father. And we've all seen that the child can grow up to be the anithesist of the father.
Matter of fact I know very well of a family of a good friend, known them all for two decades easy. Father became one of the top police officers in the force, highly decorated. Two children, the daughter was validictorian with straight A's, the son was a C stdent and put in jail for 20 counts of grand theft auto. So there you go, just in one family two different responses.
2) I have never gotten the whole passion play thing nor stations of the cross. Think about it, it's rather a grisley thing, overly long and something that is not only reenacted in the Catholic church every single year, but one is constantly reminded of it by the crucifix.
3) Movies of the past 25 years have gotten to show "real" violence. One on level, yuck. But normally I approve. Why? Compare Gladiator to Spartacus, compare a modern Western to a John Wayne movie, compare Saving Private Ryan to the movie D-Day. Let's pick the last one. They hit the beach say 50 of them. One of them gets killed, you can tell by the little darkened spot on his chest. Another steps on a landmind, and we see the dummy (I mean the actual dummy) fly in the air in tact. By the time Wayne gets to shore, he's has two men killed and two guys injured slightly. Private Ryan, you get eight bullets in your chest and it gashes with blood, step on a mind and the body goes five bloody pieces. And when 50 got off the transport, maybe five made it alive 50 yards away. Not pretty, but more realistic and since war is hell, war is horrible, it's violent, I'd rather it portrayed that way than the anticeptic ways of earlier years. One should be horrified.
So look at Ryan and Gladiator and Braveheart (with the hacked torsos streaming blood, etc, and obviously the same director). The style of this Passion movie is only a continuation of the style movies have been made in the last quarter century. Now that said, since I don't get the whole passion play experience to begin with, yeah, the Gibson movie is over the top violent. If you get a kick at seeing any person brutally tortured to the utmost degree and presented as realisticly and as gorely as possible, hey, this movie is a must for you. But I didn't get the point when it was anticeptic, and I get the purpose here (of why anyone would want to see this) even less.
4) We all know that the Jewish temple leaders hated anyone who took the limelight off of them, and Jesus was becoming popular. Politics. Ok, let's take the crowd who said free Barabus. Like there weren't tons of Roman soldiers in the crowd (in a real situation) with daggers and swords who make sure the crowd votes the way they want. So did "Jews kill Jesus"? No. Although a few temple heads helped.
Ok, the Roman governor, pretty much a Roman governor thoustands of miles away could care less if he had a man in front of him who killed 60 other men of that same "barberic people", wherever that Roman would be, Spain, Israel, Turkey, doesn't matter. To him all peoples are below the Romans; he would think yeah kill more of them (from his stand point.) But what's the one thing a Roman steeped in his culture of control, uniformity, a strict hierarchy would consider the worse thing in his provence? A rebel, a demigod (no pun intended), someone people in his district could rally around, now THAT is a Roman menance far greater than any thief or murderer. So did the Romans kill Jesus? Yes. Why? Politics.
Was it because any of them belived him the Messiah? No, some Jewish leaders saw him as a threat to their power. Romans saw him a potential threat to the political stability. Period. Did they all react to other popular sect leaders before and after? Yes. You just never hear about them. Politics, pure and simple. No different from a thousand years before or today.
But then let's think about this too. A week before Jesus goes into the city knowing fully well his fate. He could have turned around. Nope. He (according to the New Testament) knew what was going to happen, who was going to betray him majorly (Judas) and minorly (Peter) and all of the other details. No bull, the only way it all adds up then with him knowing what he was walking into, bascially it adds up to suicide. No way around it. Who killed Jesus? He did himself.
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"watch me make you turn $25,000,000.00 into $100,000,000.00 in a few weeks because you are dumb enough to talk shit, theorize, dream up conspiracies and read too much meaning into some guy who got beat up and nailed to a piece of wood.. so thanks for all the free promotion assholes!"
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Yep. Bloody brilliant and played the masses like a master violinist.
(Btw, pardon the many typos, but I wrote this in the wee hours)
Last edited by Dravyk at Mar 22 2004, 04:08 AM