[Carrie]

Sykk: "Without the likes of Max Hardcore and Steve Sweet being the envelope pushers, everyone else is at the edge of the envelope..."
That's a great point Sykk, but still... do we want them out there doing that stuff just so that we're safe?
If the girls are truly consenting then by all means I see no problem with it whatsoever. I've heard horror stories about Max's models being sent to the emergency room though, and if it's true then that's way over the line.

Good Chris: "YET, fisting the fuck out of a girl is legal in most U.S. States"
And...?
I'd dare say that the women getting fisted are enjoying it... it's pretty damn hard to get your first up there if you're NOT enjoying it. There's a lot of muscle relaxation that has to go on.

JR: "I think its a great thing that things are more clear whereas, in the US the legality of any online business can be called into question."
Hear hear.
Things are really muddy here in the States - heck, about a lot of stuff.

One of the muddy things is girls who squirt. All of us who do that are "pushing the envelope" here because of the Cambria (I think? can't remember atm) laws. It doesn't necessarily involve a partner, doesn't even necessarily involve penetration. No one is being humiliated. But a man is allowed to ejaculate and a woman is not - it's deemed "obscene". Why?
The law needs to be more clear.



Last edited by Carrie at Feb 19 2004, 01:22 AM