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Originally posted by *KK*@Aug 9 2003, 02:54 PM
There is an incremental tie between sex and violence though Michael, the two are perhaps unfortunately but assuredly tied together.

A normal, mentally healthy adult doesn't let the distinctions between the two blur past what is safe for both or all parties involved, but if there were no relation then you would not have bondage, s & m, hell, you probably wouldn't see reality videos where girls were degraded, since that's just another step away from violence.

Extreme certainly goes beyond what I would consider to be tasteful or popular, and I do think it would be interesting to see some real numbers on just how many takers they have for their brand of entertainment... my guess is way fewer than any of us would estimate... and that their main motivation for making those trashy movies is to satisfy their own ego and vanity.

Based on prior history in law enforcement...specifically a the VICE arena I think you HIGHLY underestimate the appeal of these sites/videos.

You wouldnt believe the type of person and/or the abundance of those that would pay to see it. Either excitement or shock value ---the reason doesnt matter.