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Old 06-30-2003   #30
Dianna Vesta
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Originally posted by Hell Puppy@Jun 29 2003, 09:51 PM
And part of the problem is no one thinks they're making money unless they're getting $35-40 for every signup.

With the price of bandwidth and content these days, you can make a profit on the surfer at a much lower price point....you just cant pay your affiliates $35 on a pps program at a lower price.

Those high price points also likely contribute to chargebacks. $39.95 is enough money to make most people consider it worthwhile to call the billing company or bank to try to get their money back if they weren't expecting it or simply forgot to cancel.
I’m really going to go into bitch mode here for sec. This is an interesting thread indeed.

I’ve carefully examined adult internet over the past 5 years. This past year I’ve studied the games and carefully watched the players and ships passing in the night. The $35.00 & up payout games satisfied the webmaster wanna be who needed a fast buck and was too stupid to understand the fine print or that there’s a good possibly they’re being shaved anyhow. Have you ever noticed that the companies offering these high payouts on signup use their own software to track? I have.

When we did a pay per signup we wondered how we’d make it attractive for webmasters. Offer a realistic signup and % rebilling was our solution. We could cover cost, still make money and since our sites normally do retain, everyone wins. I’m not sure I want our program to appeal to a large majority of webmaster I see on the boards.

You know I really wonder about the future and I’m not sure how the new up selling thing will work. Things will change, they are changing and it should be interesting to see which way it falls. Right now our focus is on harvesting traffic and creating traffic venues. My intuition tells me that it’s all going to boil down to direct sales and sites getting customers- not so much on sites/programs getting webmasters. I also see some serious networking going on. Not like we see it today but large companies merging or doing business together.

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