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Old 06-19-2003   #42
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Four Fires
by Bryce Courtenay <--- -1
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I would normally back Amazon to spell an authors name correctly ahead of us Cj... can't believe I have been underestimating us like that

And I think I would have said Four Fires too if I had been able to recall the name!


Colin, I've just been surfing for an online version of the game and had a recollection of the the very first thing I ever did with the internet (and it wasnt type SEX into the addressbar)

I got on the web about 3 hours after windows95 was officially launched on August 24, 1995.. but using Win3.12 ... I remember it was that night becasue people were lined up outside Hardly Normal stores waiting for midnight so they could buy the first copies available anywhere in the world. I think the price was AU$187 as I almost went and got it myself as at least it promised "easier internet connection".. (I still thought windows was a slow menu system for stupid people at the time and paying any price for it was silly) So I take the smart option and spend six hours dicking around to get windows 3 installed and internet connected (I had stayed DOS up until that night too) everything would have been OK but this idiot mate kept insisting the pc needed a Wind Sock to get onto the internet... of course I dismissed him as a lunatic.. but eventually did DIR the flight simulator diskettes just in case there was a Wind Sock there that could somehow make it all better... Thankgod my lunatic friend finally got jack of me telephoning and drove over with a shiny new winsock.dll file on diskette and at 3.00am he explained that http://altavista.digital.com was the source of all knowledge... I pushed that sucker out of the way still jabbering about gophers and how I must know all about the archies or I would be totally lost on the web... I typed "diplomacy" into the email subscribe form and waited a few minutes whilst the error message screen painted itself.. I repeated that maybe 5 times before I read the error message, and did my search for diplomacy in the search form.... I may as well of stuck with my first search using the email subscribe form as I recall.. then I typed SEX into the address bar.

What was your question again? ;-))

there is 7 entities players can be... Russia, Germany, Turkey, Italy, France and England. some are strategically weaker than others... and I think we found the best low number of players was 5 people with 2 people controlling 2 countries instead of 1. I think the most we ever played at once would have about 25 people in 7 teams of 3 or 4..

A typical game lasts about 3 hours.. An epic could be stretched out to 5 or 6 hours if I recall... but I am worried about my memories... it is a very easy game to play but the rules are maybe a bit more than the 1 minutes learning time I suggested for a new player earlier Diplomacy Tutorial I guess we never taught anyone... they could watch and work it out.

We started playing Diplomacy as about 10 of us would always meet up for for a drink on saturdays after cricket during summer and it's the sort of game you can still play whilst eating and drinking and talking and hanging out listening to music. Sometimes 20 or 30 people would turn up and friends kept it up on and off for 12-15 years.

I am sure it sounds like a geeky way for 20 somethings to spend a saturday night but I can assure you with all the negotiation, sleazing, deal making, gambling, backstabbing and changing alliances happening as a sub text all night those Saturdays were always entertaining. Especially when new people would first play :-) Most people find it surprisingly enlightening. And, it makes everyone communicate with everyone else that is there

Damn I am want to have one of those nights again!



My daughter Liana is 12 today.. I'm off for some birthday cake ;-)

I might even return with another essay for this thread in time for breakfast (maybe a point will form just like dreyfus and mash if I press on!)
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