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Stay Out Of The Box
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Lost in the ozone
Posts: 10,318
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(money money money <----- for nick, I'm gonna lose serge cause I will definitely be over 5 lines on this one)
Heq.... take a deep breath man.....
I don't know if you realize it, but you are burning bridges around here before you even build them...
If you want to make money in adult... On the Net, or on the street, one of the best things you can do is NETWORK with folks... The people who post on this and several other boards are composed of many kinds... There are vets making tons of bucks... There are retirees who already made their money and post just because they like passing on knowledge and there are midbies and newbies who will be the sucessful folk of the future....
Your posts show a lot of ignorance of not only how the internet works, but of how marketing works in general...
>1. traffic
>Converting traffic you mean? Still dependant on others for your life!
>I win the point
No, you lose...
Traffic is the key to all things net and on the street, you can have the best product in the world, but if nobody is seeing it, then nobody is buying it.... So whether it is a store front or a website, if you don't have traffic then you aren't going to make shit for profit....
>2. search engines
>Search in google for "Intense NYC Sex DVD"
>I win the point!
Once again, wrong.....
Yes, with that search you come to the top in google (at least until they do the end of January Google dance), but that is on an exact phrase match.. How many people are going to search for that exact phrase? Not many.... When someone types in DVD and you are on top, then you might have something. Just so you know, most folk don't type in phrases in quotes unless they are ego surfing, most people just type in a phrase with no quotes and the search engine parses out the phrase, then evaluates it and presents the results... When you do this with your phrase, your site is nowhere to be found...
>3. affiliate programs
>THEY ALL SHAVE AND STEAL FROM YOU. As admitted by you all
>I win the point!
Once again you lose....
Yes shaving does occur, but payments also occur.... If you feel you are being screwed, you move on to another sponsor.. Zero (which is what you get if you dont't do anything) is always worse than 1... So, it doesn't matter if they shave as long as what they pay seems fair to me...
You are not ripped off in this world unless you feel ripped off...
I will repeat, 1 is always better than zero, whether you are talking money or women....
>chat board marketing
>You don't do it - PROVE ME WRONG HERE WITH FACTS
Huh, of course she and everyone that posts here does chat board marketing.... once again, it is all about NETWORKING, developing relationships with those in this business who can make you or break you...
Even trading barbs with you is marketing... We, the observers get to watch you make a fool of yourself and end up making the determination that we will never do business with someone like this, or else, we observe rational intelligent behaviour and decide, hey this seems like someone I can trust, I wonder what their product looks like.
>4. credit card processing
>Seems like CCBill is the only one people use - PROVE ME WRONG WITH >FACTS
All sorts of billers out there, CCBill is one of many. Yes many folks use CCBill, but I actually associate them in my mind with smaller paysite programs rather than the biggies. Get out, look around, go to paysites, hit that join button, see who they are processing through... hell for that matter just type in Adult Billing in google and take a trip through the 360,000 or so results that come back...
>5. content & how it effects bottom line
>Right I make you buy
>I win the point!
Wrong, no point won again....
What do you make any one on this board buy. From what I saw of your site (I am sure you will correct me if I am wrong) you sell dvds to adult consumers, not content for websites (if you sell content licenses, then I do want the 4 dvds you promised me..lol. Webmasters and folks in the adult biz do not typically buy porn videos unless they have a content license with them. Why would they, we see this stuff day in and day out.
The folks who you are attacking here serve the same consumer base that you are trying to reach.
You can treat them as competition and guarantee they never help you in any way,
or you can treat them as potential partners, as folk that potentially control enough traffic, that if you made the right strategic alliances and worked out the a proper affiliate program could easily have changed the $75,000 you made your first year (or first 7 months, or whatever time period) into the 750,000 or 7,500,000 that was mentioned earlier.
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Some advice, even though you didn't ask for it....
Get your self over to Voltar's place at VNWR.com.... Do not post (your posts wouldn't last 10 minutes and he would ban your ass in an instant if you acted over there like you do here).. Read the newbie tutorials there.... Even do some of them (yes, they are free site and gallery building exercises that you might not be interested in...tough...do em anyway). Learn how the adult business and traffic building and networking work... Once you have mastered the concepts, put them to work for yourself.... Incorporate them into your business plans...
Then come back, very humbly, and admit that you don't know everything, that you are not necessarilly smarter than every one else in the world and that even you can learn a new trick or two.....
People tend to respect someone a whole lot more when they admit that they are ignorant rather than someone who claims superiority but when they open their mouths prove their ignorance......
nuff said for now..............
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