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Old 12-30-2002   #17
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Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Dec 29 2002, 06:11 PM
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hopefully if he has to drop the hammer he will do it with extreme prejudice
That's cheap-ass rhetoric from a [bad] imitation Clancy novel. A billion here, a billion there might just be worth the lives of thousands of American servicemen, and as a side benefit save the lives of millions of Koreans. There is no reason in the world for this to escalate to anything serious - at least not now - and in spite of Rumsfeld's bravado, the timing could not be worse. There's Iraq ... and who was that other guy? "Al" somebody ...
PD.... how can you say there is "no reason in the world for this to escalate into anything serious"?

North Korea is now a couple months from producing weapons grade plutonium. They are thought to have 2 nuclear weapons today.

you yourself, comment on the timing. thats kinda the point of all this. the timing. he chose a good time to kick out inspectors from The International Atomic Energy Agency, fired up those same reactors they agreed to shut down and are now well on their way to producing weapons grade plutonium within a couple months.

They just started up the SAME reactors that your mentor, savior, Lord, sex idol and partner to the all mighty and glorious inventor of the Internet, was rightly prepared to bomb in 1994. instead, they ended up with the 1994 Nuclear Accord (i think its called) to which North Korea agreed to shut down certain sites and stop mining Uranium in exchange for oil, food and other goodies. Unfortuneately, they never stopped. they shut down one site and helped install all the monitoring equipment and started patting themselves on the back while they started up another site elsewhere.

as much as i appreciate Alex's Utopianistic ideas of how things should be, i think it may be necessary to spoil the conversation with a few facts.

1) The Korean War is not over
2) North Korea is by anyones definition, a rogue nation, reclusive, isolated, unpredictable, desperate and failing economically
3) In spite of the 1994 Nuclear Accord, North Korea continued to develop nuclear weapons - as you may be aware they recently admitted this was true
4) North Korea is obligated under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty to cease all programs related to the production of nuclear weapons - namely programs for Uranium Enrichment
5) North Korea continues to behave in a manner that serves no other purpose than to threaten and destablize the region.

why would you make a remark like "might be worth the lives of a few thousand servicemen"? - what are the lives of those 37,000 servicemen who are in striking distance right now worth? what are the lives of the 70,000,000 people on the Korean Peninsula worth? what is reducing the chance of somone starting a nuclear war worth?



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