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Originally posted by PornoDoggy@Dec 16 2002, 12:26 PM
I don't fear the government today that much more than I ALWAYS fear government. It is, after all, government - a necessary evil. While I have faith in the system, it is by no means blind faith, because the system does not run itself - people run it.
A system can be corrupted, it can be assulted, or it can be destroyed by safety features that prevent it from working. I believe in preventative maintenance ... I don't want to fix it if it ain't broke, but I don't want to wait for it to break before I maintain it, either.
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but PD... no one is talking about specifics. people are talking about fears. that is what i think is the shortsighted part of this particular discussion.
i mean, no one is saying "here is where this could go really wrong" and presenting a really believable argument. instead there is a constant theme of "those guys are taking away are rights"
Colin is pointing out the same thing i am. No one is taking your rights. they are only infringing on your rights if they are acting outside the law and outside of the guarantees of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. the discussions are not about what needs to be done or what should be done. the discussions are nothing than criticising what IS being done.
The Government has withstood the test of time. it has been through many trials and even a civil war and division of the nation. My point is that the "system" itself has always prevailed and has remained unchanged.
if people wanted to argue about the Constitutionality of todays topic... thats great. but no one is doing that. If people want to challenge the legality of Homeland Security and subsequent bills, i think thats perfect. people should. But people for the most part are just making reactionary and paranoid remarks about a man and his government that "wants to take away your rights". Maybe that is what he "wants". But if he is able to do it legally, then it would seem to me that we need to take a long hard look at the system itself that made that possible. If he is doing it illeagally, then we should be looking at that.
instead there is just rhetoric about fantasies.