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PornoDoggy · 11-08-2002

Hmmmm ... nice to see you attribute it.

You may be suprised to learn that I agree with what he wrote. I think the analogy to 1936 is dead on. It is a very effective piece of propoganda; however, that's all it is. It leaves out so much that, if honestly stated, might be more persuasive.

The article left out a major country that demanded, or at least encouraged, negotiations in 1936 and 1938. Powerful forces in that country would not allow the chief executive to make a commitment to help, or even suggest bold action. The article leaves out the fact that another powerful country was every bit as indifferent to the fate of the Jews, the Chechs, and the Poles as any of the nations of Europe. Another nation was paralized by shallow men convinced of the splendor and safety of its policy of isolation; another great nation failed to act in part because of its financial ties to Germany, and in some cases because of their secret sympathy with Germany's aims.

And perhaps, since the article invokes the ties between the Nazis and the Ba'ath - an excellent point not mentioned enough - perhaps some attention should be paid to the political ancestors of that nations' rulers. It should be mentioned that the decscendents of the political party primarilly responsible for ensuring that this great country ignore the perils and attempt to remain above the fray have learned their lesson, and are now willing to act boldly. Perhaps if you can get a quote from the grandson of the leader of the isolationist forces as to his grandfather's folly, it would be even better - he won high political office just last week.

The article, if it is truly aimed at the people of Europe, would be far more effective if it listed OUR folly in the 30s alongside the folly of others.

You can twist this and turn this any way you want, should you feel the need. Don't read in an attack on our country. I'm proud to be a liberal, and I'm very much behind a war with Iraq if that's what it takes to disarm this guy. Any true leftist not niave enough to buy pacifistic pablum should be. But if you are going to use history to attempt to teach ... include what Paul Harvey always calls "the rest of the story."

Last edited by PornoDoggy at Nov 8 2002, 10:20 PM

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PornoDoggy Cramming 3 people in a Room to Attend Show Want to see your own Advertising Here! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Amid the Cornfields of Illinois Posts: 5,366	Hmmmm ... nice to see you attribute it. You may be suprised to learn that I agree with what he wrote. I think the analogy to 1936 is dead on. It is a very effective piece of propoganda; however, that's all it is. It leaves out so much that, if honestly stated, might be more persuasive. The article left out a major country that demanded, or at least encouraged, negotiations in 1936 and 1938. Powerful forces in that country would not allow the chief executive to make a commitment to help, or even suggest bold action. The article leaves out the fact that another powerful country was every bit as indifferent to the fate of the Jews, the Chechs, and the Poles as any of the nations of Europe. Another nation was paralized by shallow men convinced of the splendor and safety of its policy of isolation; another great nation failed to act in part because of its financial ties to Germany, and in some cases because of their secret sympathy with Germany's aims. And perhaps, since the article invokes the ties between the Nazis and the Ba'ath - an excellent point not mentioned enough - perhaps some attention should be paid to the political ancestors of that nations' rulers. It should be mentioned that the decscendents of the political party primarilly responsible for ensuring that this great country ignore the perils and attempt to remain above the fray have learned their lesson, and are now willing to act boldly. Perhaps if you can get a quote from the grandson of the leader of the isolationist forces as to his grandfather's folly, it would be even better - he won high political office just last week. The article, if it is truly aimed at the people of Europe, would be far more effective if it listed OUR folly in the 30s alongside the folly of others. You can twist this and turn this any way you want, should you feel the need. Don't read in an attack on our country. I'm proud to be a liberal, and I'm very much behind a war with Iraq if that's what it takes to disarm this guy. Any true leftist not niave enough to buy pacifistic pablum should be. But if you are going to use history to attempt to teach ... include what Paul Harvey always calls "the rest of the story." Last edited by PornoDoggy at Nov 8 2002, 10:20 PM __________________ SEX STORY TEXT Exotic Material for Adult Websites Available for part time (project or ongoing) work ...