Originally Posted by Jace (Post 793191)

yes, it is nastydollars

it is the main way to promote fling.com

you can also promote them through bangbrosonline.com and nastydollars.com

all owned by the same company

Originally Posted by Hammer (Post 793200)

If only scamming, lying, thieving fucks were limited to AF. Well... maybe someday in the perfect world I dream about.

Originally Posted by Rcourt64 (Post 793207)

whats u talking about Hammer? :unsure: limited to AF? what you getting at?

Originally Posted by Rcourt64 (Post 793719)

That's what I figured you meant, But time only clarified your statement.
I figured with 2 bigger sponsors sorta representing Fling, they would have shown more concern in replying. This just shows me they're probably not worth spending time or money on. If this is how they respond to an investor. I'm worried about how maybe a few of there customer might feel. :(

Actually there's a few sponsor programs I've attempted to talk with, and I get allot of "...we'll contact you" or " in a few days, we'll get back with you" stories. And a few I never hear from again. :thumbdown When this happens, I just guess that they must be making so much money, they really don't need to bother with anyone else?
This is why I really dislike the email/icq/messages/ or boards used today.
I figure if where gonna talk real business it should be done face 2 face or minimum threw telephone.

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 793783)

yes, this is common with THEM...

Originally Posted by Toby (Post 793784)

Another issue with many very LARGE programs is that they don't keep the contact info on their pages up to date when the people change, so support requests end up going to nobody.

Originally Posted by Rcourt64 (Post 793787)

This is defiantly wrong. I could never believe a sponsor like them would be in such a status that they can neglect affiliates, investments, and customers? how the fuck do they stay in business? :scratchin this is besides the fact that they are also representing Nastydollar.com & bangbrosonline.com, This makes the whole package look like shit. I assume webmasters get paid from them? at least I did.
What can I say? :idontknow But fuck 'em, and move on to the next on the list :okthumb:

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 793802)

they have so many dedicated webmaters and affiliates they don't have to care, it sucks, but true

I would venture to guess they have so many daily sales running through that program that they can afford not to care

I know when I once brought up the fact that the clicks never show up in the bangbros admin i was all but told to fuck off

I sent well over 1000 clicks and 8 showed up, the owner just told me to fuck off along with a slew of other "newbie" and "childish" type insults

I am 100% poisitive that bangbros shaves, I have no hard proof, but to me, when I send clicks and they aren't recorded, that is basically shaving

not to mention I send the same traffic to occash and to the same types of sites and I get sales on a pretty consistant basis, yet I have never made a sale with bangbrosonline

:scratchin:scratchin:scratchin:scratchin

Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 793810)

I cant recall making a sale with them either.
Ive always found that rather odd.

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 793813)

and if you bring it up on the boards or say something about clicks or sales they will berate you, act childish and call you a newbie over and over

I get sick of that newbie bullshit, I have proved myself so many times in this biz and have stats to back it up these days, if you wanna cheat webmasters FINE, just don't berate people when they ask you about a simple question

Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 793816)

Hahaha yeah I was called a newbie here when I first joined...and Ive been berated by several people over the years as a newbie. Funny how things turn out isnt it?

That shit just doesnt work on me because its been 14 YEARS NOW! Ive been doing this longer than most scamming fucks even had a computer ... were instead selling used cars or embezzling funds from companies for a living.

Why do you even give a fuck what someone calls you or thinks?
Your the bonafide real deal.
You werent hiding behind the camera with a goofy laugh or an evil ring you have been in front of the camera. For you to be called a newbie is laughable and makes those that say just pure fools.

No matter how many lies, innuendo and deflection tries to cloud the issue sooner or later the truth shines thru.

"I dont care what about people think - What Do you think about that?"

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 12967611)

I'm sure they'll miss the three clicks.

Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 12968143)

You have no idea how much business Jace has sent me. I'd estimate over $150,000 in the past two months. Is there a sponsor he doesn't know, or that doesn't respect him? Doesn't seem like it, by what people are saying in ICQ. Every program owner I talk to loves Jace.

But go back to making fun of a guy who's a bigger player than you are, I guess.

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 793821)

there was a time when it REALLY bothered me, mainly because I would work SO damn hard with nothing to show for it...I had a wife that bitched because I couldn't pay the rent, I had bills stacked up, life pretty much sucked.....being called a newbie hurt then cause it really hit home....in fact, the tail end months of that was around the time we all met at atkins park in highlands that one night

now, I laugh, and I laugh hard, because majority of the people calling me a newbie are either old fucks who couldn't start a new biz from scratch in adult if they had a million dollars, or actual newbies themselves

I have gone from a idiot partier that fucked my wife on camera to now having at least 10 major program owners on speed dial, while at the same time releasing some of the most innovating products adult has seen in a long time.....AND maintaining a pretty solid SE traffic network....all from my fucking couch

edgeprod said it best last week to mr. 12clicks on gfy





I guess it boils down to to this, I make people money, period.....I do way more that blogs and rss and anyone close to me knows this. there is much more th em than my board "persona", so to call me a newbie just shows that you are an ignorant redneck

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ANYWAY..gonzo, dinner and drinks this week sometime? thursday maybe? I promise I will be only 1 hour late instead of 2 this time

Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 793826)

Everyone responds differently to the challenges this business gives them.

Ill be down at the Hyatt from Weds on. This thing Scooter and I are doing has kind of blown up. But its a very good thing. I cant wait to post a picture of getting Kevin Sorbo in a headlock!

Your a good guy man. Youve carved out your own niche in this business and I know you work hard at it. If you can venture downtown somewhere near the Hyatt drinks and dinner would be fun.

This convention really isnt much work for me as I dont know many of these people and you know the adult thing makes them either look sideways at me or has the guys sniffing around for a password to some paysites.

It doesnt matter to me. As I told Beth at Frolicon - I just want to market to your people and thats all. Seriously if you want to drop into the panel Saturday its around 4ish. Its fairly informal but we tend to pull a crowd regardless.

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 793821)

there was a time when it REALLY bothered me, mainly because I would work SO damn hard with nothing to show for it...I had a wife that bitched because I couldn't pay the rent, I had bills stacked up, life pretty much sucked.....being called a newbie hurt then cause it really hit home....in fact, the tail end months of that was around the time we all met at atkins park in highlands that one night

now, I laugh, and I laugh hard, because majority of the people calling me a newbie are either old fucks who couldn't start a new biz from scratch in adult if they had a million dollars, or actual newbies themselves

I have gone from a idiot partier that fucked my wife on camera to now having at least 10 major program owners on speed dial, while at the same time releasing some of the most innovating products adult has seen in a long time.....AND maintaining a pretty solid SE traffic network....all from my fucking couch

edgeprod said it best last week to mr. 12clicks on gfy





I guess it boils down to to this, I make people money, period.....I do way more that blogs and rss and anyone close to me knows this. there is much more th em than my board "persona", so to call me a newbie just shows that you are an ignorant redneck

</rant>

ANYWAY..gonzo, dinner and drinks this week sometime? thursday maybe? I promise I will be only 1 hour late instead of 2 this time

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 796898)

christ, I forgot this board was here.
Just for fun, I'll remind everyone that edgeprod does not talk to program owners except in fantasy land.

Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 796905)

We are just around the corner from Tunafishbitch - come visit anytime!

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 796898)

christ, I forgot this board was here.
Just for fun, I'll remind everyone that edgeprod does not talk to program owners except in fantasy land.

Originally Posted by EmporerEJ (Post 796932)

12clicks.com <-------Now THAT is funny. I know funny, and THAT is FUNNY.

Originally Posted by rhetorical (Post 796938)

Oh yeah the tuna guy who fucked up in the real world and was forced back into porn. Money talks and bullshit walks. Real world business guys dont hang out on webboards (wtf was it...cell phones or something) and buried your porno ass. Wtf.... All show, but can't cut it in the real world. After all that bullshit about being a real business man and leaving porn forever. That truth is self evident. I am sure all the traffic rats at GFY think you are God, but we all know you just cant cut the mustard in the real world. But I knew that from the get go, because I know the real world and he does not. Ron, you da bomb.

Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 796905)

We are just around the corner from Tunafishbitch - come visit anytime!

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 796960)

son, in my worst year of mainstream I made more than you'll make in the next 10 years.
what is it you're even pretending to do again? I honestly don't know.

also, go dig up any post where I said I was leaving porn forever.

fucking chump. hahahaha

Originally Posted by Rcourt64 (Post 796962)

he called you "son" :bustingup

Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 793192)

I started testing them out a few weeks ago. Looks to be an alternative from those scamming, lying,theiving fucks at Adult FriendFinder.

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 793821)

edgeprod said it best last week to mr. 12clicks on gfy

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 793821)

As of now I am not longer associated in any way with EdgeProd or FeedPushers.com. I am not going to go into too many details about EdgeProd and his business, if he wants to speak about that he can do so.

EdgeProd lied to me about owning Relink Software and AutobloggerPro, this is what sold me on working with him on FeedPushers.com. This is a lie, he does not own anything but FeedPushers.com, Chio is the rightful owner of Relink Software and Autoblogger Pro

To the patent matter, from what I have gathered so far, there is no patent for any FeedPushers.com product. EdgeProd has not directly said this to me personally, but then again, I wouldn't expect him to because I honestly believe there is none. I was a direct partner in FeedPushers.com (even though I never received a check), so one would think I would have direct access to documents pertaining to the company, I never saw a patent or was ever given a patent #.

Flame me all you want, say whatever you want just to get it off your chest, I am basically going to be leaving this thread as is and not responding much, I am so sick of this shit it is killing me right now, I hate that I was involved with someone that lied and manipulated people the way that Edgeprod does, I am not like that and I hate that people would ever associate me with a company like that.