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Jace 08-09-2007 12:51 AM

SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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News sites are EXEMPT from duplicates, as far as I know because Google knows there are going to be a lot of those with the same story.
no idea where they got it from, but it sounds intriguing

Hell Puppy 08-09-2007 02:52 AM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by Jace (Post 791537)
no idea where they got it from, but it sounds intriguing

A little birdy tells me that most of these so called exemption rules only apply to sites with PR7 or better.

Toby 08-09-2007 05:40 AM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by Hell Puppy (Post 791589)
A little birdy tells me that most of these so called exemption rules only apply to sites with PR7 or better.

...and I'd guess that the "News site" designation must be assigned manually by Google staff.

Jace 08-09-2007 12:18 PM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 791598)
...and I'd guess that the "News site" designation must be assigned manually by Google staff.

but of course :) haha

Hell Puppy 08-09-2007 10:35 PM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 791598)
...and I'd guess that the "News site" designation must be assigned manually by Google staff.

Yup, I'm pretty sure higher PR's are also manually set...

PagePeelMarketing.com 08-09-2007 10:55 PM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
There's a great deal of confusion as to what is considered "duplicate content" and what will be penalized. The most common arguments are ones such as this; "How do news sites get away with posting the same news across several sites? Isn't that considered duplicate content?" Or, "What about all the article directories and people posting articles to 30 or 40 of them, isn't that considered duplicate content?"

The answer is, no, it is not considered duplicate content because the enforcement of that rule would be too ambiguous and difficult. What Google and other search engines penalize as duplicate content is for those webmasters who own and run several, or many, websites (typically designed for Adsense revenues) on the same server, thereby essentially having the same IP address. If Google determines that a single IP address is hosting very similar or the same content across more than one domain, then it would be considered "duplicate content" and all sites containing that content would be penalized.

gonzo 08-09-2007 10:59 PM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by PagePeelMarketing.com (Post 791803)
There's a great deal of confusion as to what is considered "duplicate content" and what will be penalized. The most common arguments are ones such as this; "How do news sites get away with posting the same news across several sites? Isn't that considered duplicate content?" Or, "What about all the article directories and people posting articles to 30 or 40 of them, isn't that considered duplicate content?"

The answer is, no, it is not considered duplicate content because the enforcement of that rule would be too ambiguous and difficult. What Google and other search engines penalize as duplicate content is for those webmasters who own and run several, or many, websites (typically designed for Adsense revenues) on the same server, thereby essentially having the same IP address. If Google determines that a single IP address is hosting very similar or the same content across more than one domain, then it would be considered "duplicate content" and all sites containing that content would be penalized.

Can I get your extension?

PagePeelMarketing.com 08-09-2007 11:06 PM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 791805)
Can I get your extension?


Pardon my lapse in lingo, does that mean phone #?

gonzo 08-09-2007 11:08 PM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by PagePeelMarketing.com (Post 791811)
Pardon my lapse in lingo, does that mean phone #?

I have the number just need your extension.

PagePeelMarketing.com 08-09-2007 11:18 PM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 791812)
I have the number just need your extension.

Ah. Our business doesn't have extensions; just the number. And I typically don't use it. I have employees who run our outfits during the day. I communicate, when I can, via email and PM if need be.

gonzo 08-09-2007 11:22 PM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by PagePeelMarketing.com (Post 791815)
Ah. Our business doesn't have extensions; just the number. And I typically don't use it. I have employees who run our outfits during the day. I communicate, when I can, via email and PM if need be.

Oh I thought you worked for google from that "official" statement you made. I was going to switch reps.

PagePeelMarketing.com 08-09-2007 11:38 PM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 791817)
Oh I thought you worked for google from that "official" statement you made. I was going to switch reps.

Ugh! It appears my naivety is showing again!:rolleyes:

Sorry, allow me to ammend that statement with a disclaimer:

I do not now, or have ever, worked for Google or any other search engine. My previous post is yet another in a series of theories that nobody really knows for sure. The information I receive from my "little birdies" are just as susceptible of being pure horse poopie as any other little birdy's.

Yet another theory (and I'm just pulling this one out of my pooper): I really don't think any one employee at Google truly knows their secrets. Kinda like the KFC Secret Recipe (I have worked for KFC as a youngster). Their coating gets mixed in portions at different facilities. Those portions are then shipped to a single location and combined. I think Google has many "specialists" doing different things, and they never actually communicate with each other, they just contribute their portion and then it gets mixed later. This sort of thing is not uncommon in a lot of industries, including film.

I'm not even drinking. How the hell did I get to start talking so freakin' much??? I'm gonna start drinking. Merlot anyone?

Toby 08-09-2007 11:45 PM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
I'm not drinking any fucking merlot !;)

gonzo 08-09-2007 11:51 PM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by PagePeelMarketing.com (Post 791818)
Ugh! It appears my naivety is showing again!:rolleyes:

Sorry, allow me to ammend that statement with a disclaimer:

I do not now, or have ever, worked for Google or any other search engine. My previous post is yet another in a series of theories that nobody really knows for sure. The information I receive from my "little birdies" are just as susceptible of being pure horse poopie as any other little birdy's.

Yet another theory (and I'm just pulling this one out of my pooper): I really don't think any one employee at Google truly knows their secrets. Kinda like the KFC Secret Recipe (I have worked for KFC as a youngster). Their coating gets mixed in portions at different facilities. Those portions are then shipped to a single location and combined. I think Google has many "specialists" doing different things, and they never actually communicate with each other, they just contribute their portion and then it gets mixed later. This sort of thing is not uncommon in a lot of industries, including film.

I'm not even drinking. How the hell did I get to start talking so freakin' much??? I'm gonna start drinking. Merlot anyone?

DO you buy any adwords with Google?

PagePeelMarketing.com 08-10-2007 12:01 AM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 791823)
DO you buy any adwords with Google?

Not anymore. I used to, extensively. Then only when there was something special I wanted to promote for a brief period. For the most part now, my mainstream businesses have top listings for their individual niche. Although that sounds impressive, business is slow in the retail market which is why I always look to find something new, interesting, and creative. I try to diversify. The downside to that, as I've mentioned to you on another thread, I tend to spread myself thin at times and need to scale back to regain control.

Adwords is good. But if you're not careful, it can be unnecessarily expensive. You need to pay close attention to your campaigns. Yahoo!/Overture and MSN's Adcenter can be less expensive alternatives and still be very effective depending on your niche. Still the only big name that caters to the adult industry is Adbrite. I know there are others, but Adbrite has had the time to develop their brand.

gonzo 08-10-2007 12:12 AM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by PagePeelMarketing.com (Post 791825)
Still the only big name that caters to the adult industry is Adbrite. I know there are others, but Adbrite has had the time to develop their brand.

You are misinformed.

sarettah 08-10-2007 12:21 AM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
This is extremely painful to watch actually.

I offered some advice via pm a while back but I don't think it took.

But I did try.

PagePeelMarketing.com 08-10-2007 12:26 AM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 791826)
You are misinformed.

I wouldn't even begin to argue that. Perhaps I should have prefaced that one with "IMMO" [In My Misinformed Opinion]. Although, would you deny that Adbrite has a large marketshare of the adult industry for contextual advertising? I do understand that they're not looked upon favorably by many in the industry (and I'm not sure why that is either).

Because I don't like being misinformed, how about a bit of schooling for the young pupil? Who would you consider the major players?

gonzo 08-10-2007 12:28 AM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by PagePeelMarketing.com (Post 791830)
I wouldn't even begin to argue that. Perhaps I should have prefaced that one with "IMMO" [In My Misinformed Opinion]. Although, would you deny that Adbrite has a large marketshare of the adult industry for contextual advertising? I do understand that they're not looked upon favorably by many in the industry (and I'm not sure why that is either).

Because I don't like being misinformed, how about a bit of schooling for the young pupil? Who would you consider the major players?

Google has the large marketshare period.

PagePeelMarketing.com 08-10-2007 01:00 AM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by gonzo (Post 791832)
Google has the large marketshare period.


I stand corrupted! What took me so long to respond was because I was reviewing Google's TOS. As mentioned, I haven't used Adwords in quite some time, and frankly, never for the adult industry. I was under the "wrong" impression that Google did not serve the adult industry.:wnw:

gonzo 08-10-2007 01:12 AM

Re: SEO - Just heard this, wonder if there is any truth to it?
 
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Originally Posted by PagePeelMarketing.com (Post 791841)
I stand corrupted! What took me so long to respond was because I was reviewing Google's TOS. As mentioned, I haven't used Adwords in quite some time, and frankly, never for the adult industry. I was under the "wrong" impression that Google did not serve the adult industry.:wnw:

Adult is what keeps Yahoo and MS Live behind Google.


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