I still don't know what kind of scam he is trying to pull, but I do know that every time it is exposed a little on his board he shuts it all down...lolol...

When someone doesn't want to talk about what he is doing, they are usually trying to cover something up imho...

anyway, read this for the latest http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index...howtopic=18447

Next time let me know before you go board stomping so I can get registered and approved.. OK :D


I hate missing out on fun :redance:

Ok, looks like Butcher is calling me out, but has inactivated any accounts I have there so I can't answer him.

Yep Butcher, that's the way a man does it isn't it. Call someone out from behind a locked door and then claim they're chicken because they don't have the key.

So, here is what he posted:

And I will answer him here. So Butcher, you want to go for it, come on over to my sandbox fuckwad....

Answer:

I would answer you, but you have blocked my accounts and I am too lazy right now to go around you yet again.

What business do I have ? Every adult webmaster or member of the adult internet has a professional interest in how the adult web is run, what scams are going on, who the good guys are, who the bad guys are and who the smart ones are and who the idiots are. So, my interest is professional. In addition, you, when you got started made a push to pull newbie webmasters in. Since I am actively involved in helping many newbie webmasters both here and at other boards, I have an interest in protecting them from scammers. So when some new "opportunity" opens for newbies in the adult web, I go check it out to see if the folks running it are straight or not before I tell a newbie yeah go for it or stay away.

I never said that, never implied that. Show me where I did please. Other folks might have. I came in questioning the number of viewers viewing the page and the number of threadviews being generated. You covered the viewers by claiiming it was a setting in the software. You never did address the threadviews portion
although you did tone it down for a bit. Now you have the cheat factor turned back up. Why ?

Bullshit, a refresh makes a request for the image and the server will 304 the image, the hit still gets recorded. So, including the refreshes there have been 64 hits to the thread during the time period recorded. You report 164 threadviews. Another glitch in vbulletin software ?

First of all I said I had several IP Blocks available, never said I owned all of them. I have 5 ips for my home office set up. I have another 512 (2 c class blocks) available here. We have these blocks because we own several T1 lines that we use for web hosting.

Imagine that, a webmaster has access to ip blocks.

For your information any of the programs out there probably have at least a block of 254 addresses available to them.

So, according to you, any programs that have a professional set up are scammers now ?

I'm 49 yars old, think I stopped growing.

If you hadn't killed the account, I would have posted there, but you killed it, so I brought this here. You wanted an answer, you got it.

As far as the storm goes, go check the fucking weather for Kansas City assfuck.

So, come on Butcher sheep, don't reserve your wrath for over at your heroes house. be brave, post your support for your hero here.

You never know, you might learn something worth knowing... :okthumb:

The butcher is a fucking gutless bitch.

Nopers Mr. warren. I expose scammers when I can, not just for the drama , although that part is fun I have to admit, but for protection of friends and family.

I have gone out of my way to pay it forward in this industry. I have set newbs up with hosting, I have lent domains, I have lent money, I have lent programming time. All in an effort to help get people started on the right path, a path I am not very far down my self for that matter.

I don't need scammers sucking newbies in and pushing their shit down their throats.

As far as I can tell, Butcher has no previous experience in this industry yet he promoted himself to newbies and tried to get them to his board (using fantasyman as the attraction apparently). This looked like a scam and smelled like a scam, so I investigated and I caught him, simple as that.

It wouldn't have half as much drama if he weren't trying to cover something up over there.

Holy Shit, Now I'm part of a vast adult webmaster board conspiracy......LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


The only part worth responding to is this:

and this:

lolol.. look through and see how many times your boards name is mentioned. And you won't find a link from here to you either.

Your sheep might buy into it but noone else will.

Go ahead Butcher sheep... Baaaa Baaaa Baaaa along


lololol

Big talk for someone who killed my account(s) so I couldn't post. How come you aren't mentioning that to your sheep ?

"Yeah, Look at me, I'm the Butcher and I can make it so sarettah is afraid to post back and I can say all sorts of shit and see, sarettah won't even respond to me"

Come on over and play Butcher. Lots of our network is still bringing brought back up after power failures and flooding last night so I have time to play. Come on Butcher you little piece of shit, what are you afraid of ?

:yowsa:

Oh, btw, go ahead and expose everyone who registered new as me... lololololol..... That would be the funniest part of this whole thing. I know from your posts that you are reading all this, so why don't you post here you fucking little fraud.

Running scams is bad enough, but running scams on newbies and your own sponsors ?

Damn it's gonna be sweet when karma catches up with you.

Good Job sarettah
You will never convice some people that he is nothing but a scammer. I gave up trying months ago.

ummm didn't that cheating moronic bitch used to show like :


3277 members online...


all famous webmasters like:

vdfvdhfjvdkjkd1746

and

qwertyu78

?????



He is a fucking joke LOL

Woo Hoo!


I'm not banned... I'm member 7768 :blink:

lolol, Icreated a new account, sarettah1, activated it but it won't let me post....lololol...

For someone not trying to cover up something, he is expending a lot of energy.

Oh, btw, Mr X ?? I know I know, but I can't work on the site from here (wouldn't be prudent to be leaving porn tracks on this network) but I can post from here. That is why I'm not working on the site... I will be working on it tonight though :)

Seriously...why get an account.

Make them come over here. :)

looks like you tripled there traffic from 8 unique a day to 24.....

Thanx Jim...

Yeah, not sure what the scam is yet.

BUt might as well keep the fact that he ain't above board out on the radar :)

Working on it :)

But I need an account in order to create several screen caps. He is over there telling folks I'm not banned. But he has me blocked from posting. So I need the screen caps to prove that he is still lying his scamming little ass off :)

You know better than that Nick
He only posts where he can use the delete and ban buttons. I love how anyone that mentions they have not been paid gets banned and the thread deleted.

I did notice some notable people no longer post there :)

I had a post with a site I own getting no hits and the Butchers site but when I posted it, the Oprano shit filters picked it up a chewed it up...

My site only gets me as traffic as it's my homepage, it ranks higher :blink:

Just in case your ip is banned, you can always use this
http://proxy.guardster.com/cgi-bin/nph-pro...068703f663d3137

I really don't think he will figure out how to ban it.

Shit
Sorry Nick...I know you don't like links to that site. :)

Well from what I heard in your radio interview with him, there's alot of buttons and stuff... :lol:

Yeah Trev, those were good times :)
We have a lot of things from that place that shows what a scammer he is. It was fun for a while but, got a little boring. I still love it when people finally figure out what is going on :)

Like who?

:)

BANNED :(

Greenie and myself :)

Quote:

Originally posted by The Butcher+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (The Butcher)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>No I haven't, just go look at his profile. Banned users show "Banned" under their username. He is a registered user. Now welcome to the board, where do I know you from?[/b]

<!--QuoteBegin-Trev@
You don't... I'm in the adult internet business!


I've spoken to Sarettah and he has tried to login and his username and password are not being recognised and it won't email them to him either. So ha may not be banned but you've screwed up his account good enough to make sure he can't login.[/quote]

<!--QuoteBegin-The Butcher
Trev if I wanted to ban him, I did it 3 other times when he joined as

sarettah
damole and
farleyhiggins

I would have banned his sorry ass, I didn't ban him and I haven't done anything to stop him posting.

I really don't have a problem saying what I think or what I do, I just say it.

He was not banned, but listen up, you're only here to cause more shit, I know who you are and where you post. So do me a favor, crawl back to where you came from, and I really don't have the time on a nice Friday afternoon to get into an argument over how
someone can or can't login into the board.

Now in your case I am banning you because all you intend to do is make trouble, so bye.

No one is forced to post here, but some people enjoy the board while some do business here, some do both including myself. Mind your own business.[/quote]


I never even got to call him a fucking cocksucker :(

edited to take the quote out, Trev caught it.... :)


I'm not banned, Ijust can't log in or post or get it to send me a password or anything else...lololol...

But I'm not banned.... lololololol


Spin it how you want Butcher. Folks know that I am not technically challenged and that I can get t your board if I need to and want to bad enough.

I jst want you to keep digging that hole because I have been making screencaps of my login attempts to prove you as a fucking liar. I want to login with that user name in order to answer you on your home turf. But I guess you don't want that, do you ??

Then why did you put the effort into inflating the numbers ?

And your sheep might believe your shit, but we sure don't.

To sell sponsor space, you get page views. that simple. The more viewers it looks like you have the higher the dollar amount a sponsor might be willing to pay for space on your board.

Pretty simple formula actually,as are most scams...

Thanks Sar :)

Aren't you the white knight ? :yowsa:

Bugger... I can't even go over there and laugh <_<

lolololol....

If he has ever seen you post on Oprano, or the Pond or Greenguys, he will think you are ppart of the vast webmaster cnspiracy...

lololol....

lolololol....

If he has ever seen you post on Oprano, or the Pond or Greenguys, he will think you are ppart of the vast webmaster cnspiracy...

lololol.... [/b][/quote]
I think with him saying "you're only here to cause more shit". He knows me well enough :lol:

If all else fails Trev, use the link I posted.
It's ugly but then again, SC is no beauty either :)
I have had several ips banned.

I can get to his board, I just can't post because he's banned my screen name.


Oh well back to reality I guess :D

I think with him saying "you're only here to cause more shit". He knows me well enough :lol: [/b][/quote]
Actually, when I first posted there back in February he greeted me with "I know you're just here to start shit"

lololol....

I wasn't there just to start shit... I was checking out what I had heard about his board. and I never did attack him, I just asked some pointed questions. All of which were deleted I believe.

If the guy isn't running a scam and is just tech challenged as he tries to claim then the worst thing he can do (imho) is shut down those questioning him.

But what do I know, I'm just a programmer :blink:


But, I will figure out his scam. probably take me about TWO WEEKS !!! :yowsa:

Actually, when I first posted there back in February he greeted me with "I know you're just here to start shit"

lololol....

I wasn't there just to start shit... I was checking out what I had heard about his board. and I never did attack him, I just asked some pointed questions. All of which were deleted I believe.

If the guy isn't running a scam and is just tech challenged as he tries to claim then the worst thing he can do (imho) is shut down those questioning him.

But what do I know, I'm just a programmer :blink:


But, I will figure out his scam. probably take me about TWO WEEKS !!! :yowsa: [/b][/quote]
Thats the thing. I wasn't harsh like I usually am, I just wanted to point out that you couldn't login.

I don't see me being cunty or anything.... fuck 2 ok'ish posts and I'm banned. I'm glad he doesn't own oprano or I'd be fucked :lol:

I think his scam has changed.
I believe it started to scam advertisers into advertising on SC. Now that he has lost every one of them, I think it is just trying to get people to think more of him than he really is. During the radio interview I asked him why he claimed to be number 2 after GFY. He said everyone likes to exaggerate.

He asked Boardtracker to stop tracking SC when they stopped counting non business threads. He saw SC dropping like a stone. But, of course he blamed Boardtracker for being in our pockets.

The bannings are a clear sign of scam. Legitimate board don't ban someone for calling the board owner out. The board owner buckles down and fights for his integrity. Since he has no integrity, he has to use the ban button.

I was being nice as well :yowsa:

I've thrown some shit on boards over the years, I've never been banned anywhere....


Until today :lol:

I was first banned when he posted about a record day for online members. All I did was let him know it was because he had the board's cookies set for 24 hours :)

We really are nasty men lol... I'd hate to see what he would do if anyone ever swore... but he's not likely to ban himself is he :yowsa:

Robert j warren.... The legacy.... Ahahahahaha what a joke. mr self promotion. Anyone know what the celebrity webmaster doeso ther htan post press releases about how much he's in demand?


JOCK SNIFFER!!!

lololol....

well, he unbanned my ip.. How about that.

Still can't login or get it to send my password to me but now I can see any lies posted about me from here :yowsa:

Ok, that made for a fun day, but now it's back to work for this boy...

Anybody need any short icqs ? Cause I sale short Icqs and I can deliver them in just Two Weeks !! :yowsa:

Fucker... I want banned written under your name as well :biglaugh:

Fucker... I want banned written under your name as well :biglaugh: [/b][/quote]
He only banned you because you're Northeastern British :yowsa:


(and a fuckin troublemaker) :okthumb:

He only banned you because you're Northeastern British :yowsa:


(and a fuckin troublemaker) :okthumb: [/b][/quote]
*Thats a fuckin good point :)


Think what we could have done for his alexa rating if we'd kept our toolbars turned on :lol:





* hmm you know me better than I thought :)

Wow, I just found out I had accused the man wrongly...damn, hate when I do that.

I said that he had deleted the post that he banned my ip over, but turns out he didn't. Ithought it was a pretty good post actually:

Not a mean post by any means (imho) just a bright congratulatory post.

:groucho:

Almost done with this reminincing journey. Turned out he didn't delete the first threads :)

This was my first post over there:

He was actually not nasty in his reply to me :)

and here is my second post:

I thought that was quite a nice post myself :yowsa:

That's the one that he responded to with: "I know you're just trying to cause trouble, that's the only reason you are here. Now listen up and stop being the way you are."

"Listen up and stop being the way you are" lolololololol That is a hard one to pull off. :yowsa:

Ok, I'm done for now, back to work yet again.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL......

I am laughing too hard at the moment to type almost.

I went from posting that last message and popped back to where I had sponsorscam sitting. Saw a post I wanted to read, clicked on it and my ip has been banned again...lolololol


This is too funny and I am spending way too much time on it...lololol...

But I haven't had such a good laugh in such a fucking long while.



Thank You Butcher :yowsa:

Seems guests aren't allowed to view his board anymore... or is it just me <_<