Some of the seminars really are crap and as HP said "You get what you pay for , why would top people give away the secrets of their trade?"



A hypothetical....



What if two people who were top flight in there field did a traffic seminar at a hotel nearby...

Say person one ( a person with good rep ) said he would do a seminar on SEO , proved that he was getting excess of 100,000 hits a day and was willing to show you how to do the same.

Say person Two ( another known webmaster) was willing to show you how to mail , heat free , introduce you to all the contacts to facilitate it , and proved income sales of $10,000 a day sustained.


Do you think people would be interested?

I didn't know you were a SEO guru Nick ?

:lol:

LOL....

harsh!

:)

He isnt.. he said someone with a GOOD rep LMAO

He isnt.. he said someone with a GOOD rep LMAO [/b][/quote]
I can't get no respect...

Of course they'd be interested!! Can't imagine an SEO or mail guy telling very many people though because it's probably going to make things tougher on them.

He isnt.. he said someone with a GOOD rep LMAO [/b][/quote]
Ooopss.

Missed that one.

Nick has a good rep with me though, so does that mean I could be right ?

Let's not go there shall we.

:yowsa:

Depends on the money .....


Plus what if they were SEO specialists and mailers that concentrated in different spheres than adult...

:)

Depends on the money .....


Plus what if they were SEO specialists and mailers that concentrated in different spheres than adult...

:) [/b][/quote]
Ahhhhh.

You want to re-read what you wrote ?

Since when would that matter if you are applying the principles taught ?

Unless you of course you were silly enough to pay for a seminar to have to learn it so you could then pay for the next seminar on how to apply it.

Nickatilynx Robbins

I can see a book or 300 coming out of this .... possible even a hot investment opportunity or even timeshare !!

:yowsa:

Ahhhhh.

You want to re-read what you wrote ?

Since when would that matter if you are applying the principles taught ?

Unless you of course you were silly enough to pay for a seminar to have to learn it so you could then pay for the next seminar on how to apply it.

Nickatilynx Robbins

I can see a book or 300 coming out of this .... possible even a hot investment opportunity or even timeshare !!

:yowsa: [/b][/quote]
:)

Ahhhhh.

You want to re-read what you wrote ?

Since when would that matter if you are applying the principles taught ?

Unless you of course you were silly enough to pay for a seminar to have to learn it so you could then pay for the next seminar on how to apply it.

Nickatilynx Robbins

I can see a book or 300 coming out of this .... possible even a hot investment opportunity or even timeshare !!

:yowsa: [/b][/quote]
Dont fucking encourage him

If the info was current and not what was making money for them 2 or 3 months ago, then hell I think people would be insane not to go to it.

Oh it would be current....

Oh it would be current.... [/b][/quote]
I fucked myself I think.


Even if the info is current, it's probably old (for the 'guru's' to give it away) and the 'guru's' are probably moving on with other ideas.

Still be worth learning even if it's only good for 3 - 6 months.

Thanks for the compliment Nick.

Here's the "Crap" on SEO I gave during the traffic seminar during the 2003 summer show http://www.cozyfrog.com/guides/traffic/art...cRoundtable.asp

Some of us are in the business of sharing knowledge and educating webmasters - and enjoy it.

I've been #1 for the word "fetish" in Google for the past 3+ years in addition to hundreds of other top rankings I've achived for my clients and employers. I make my living as an SEO for 7 years now. Since there is no magic formula, just comprehensive understanding of the basics, experimentation, resources, and creating your own unique campaign that works for what you are trying to market, all one can do is absorb the knowledge that is available to you at the time and figure out what works for you. It takes time, patience, a little bit of english skills and HTML/coding and creativity. SEO is 20% design, 30% copywriting, 20% coding, 20% link strategies, and 10% luck :D Oh and btw, after the seminar (2003) a rep from Yahoo/Inktomi came up to me and told me everthing I said was "Right on". That was awesome! I was thrilled.

The information you need is out there, you just have to pursue it. No one is going to show you how its just most people go and drink away everything they learned earlier that day in the seminar or dont remember by the time they get home. :yowsa:

You can't duplicate, but you can innovate.

You may enjoy these as well. (Note: I've been writing for so many years some info may be outdated http://www.cozyacademy.com/classrooms/traffic/index.asp 56 lessons dating back to 2002) I'll be speaking again in Cybernet, and I'm an open book. I only talk about things I've seen work and when I project or give ideas I tell people they are ideas

On topic, I'd love to hear what work for others, the more information the better! Ideas earned from research and experience breeds innovation - the best way to get on top.

Dont fucking encourage him [/b][/quote]
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

What's the matter Gonz?

Managing the tours and publishing the books for Nick wouldn't pay enough?

:yowsa:

Congrats on Fetishbank.

It should be making a fortune :)

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

What's the matter Gonz?

Managing the tours and publishing the books for Nick wouldn't pay enough?

:yowsa: [/b][/quote]
Great.... now we are going to have a rebirth of Traffic Inc followed by SEO Inc.

Would this make him a celebrity webmaster?

Juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuicyyyyyyyyyy!

Carlton Shits! :D

Great.... now we are going to have a rebirth of Traffic Inc followed by SEO Inc.

[/b][/quote]

SILENCE!!!!!

You soooooooooo know its coming!!!!!!

************************************************** ******

Press Release

Just when you thought it was safe to send traffic , Nickatilynx introduces Traffic Inc 2!!!!

New and Improved!!!

NOW , With a better than 50% chance of getting paid....

:)

************************************************** ******


I just need one more crazy Aussie and I'm ready to go....

LMAO! :okthumb:

Why do I suddenly keep hearing a certain Billy Preston song in my head?

I certainly would be.....

Remind me to forward you the excellent things people are writing about you in my little survey... LOL.. You're certainly getting the respect you deserve, darling! B)

Now, go fill out my bloody form!
http://www.internextconference.com/seminar...ome_speaker.php

Oh, and Nick, I'd love to attend that!

SILENCE!!!!!

You soooooooooo know its coming!!!!!!

************************************************** ******

Press Release

Just when you thought it was safe to send traffic , Nickatilynx introduces Traffic Inc 2!!!!

New and Improved!!!

NOW , With a better than 50% chance of getting paid....

:)

************************************************** ******


I just need one more crazy Aussie and I'm ready to go.... [/b][/quote]
Who you calling crazy pal ?

:P :ph34r: :zoinks: