http://fetters.premiumratedcontent.com/bath/006.wmv

http://fetters.premiumratedcontent.com/bath/011.wmv

some clips from netpondcash new site All Girl Annihalation

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DVD just passed by the UK censor as the hardest core movie they have ever classified.

Aga .. nice tits lol is that head and shoulders? Excellent Meat and congratulations :okthumb:

Thanks Newton:) it looks extreme but its just basically outakes, the girls like to warm themselves up before gangbangs and this is what gets them off we just decided to start shooting it and its gonna make a fucking good website lol

AGA I love your Tits

Sterling idea :okthumb:

That drowing scene is very disturbing.

I like weird shit. I can handle pain. I do not like violence though.

Im sure the site will do really well though. There are alot of sicko men out there.



Sabby:)

It’s very different!

I'm not in to the ducking! Burning and drowning are my no no ways to go, so it’s beyond me.

Sabby and Trev

First off,

Sabby, anyone that asks for a baseball bat to be used on a girls vagina is NOT imagining his cock slipping in, hes getting off on a baseball bat (something used to 1 hit baseballs and 2 crush kneecaps. Rapists often use objects to violate victims, The difference is obvious, someone that is fullfilling the "baseball bat fantasy" is catering to a mind that is NOT quite normal

The bath scene in this video is not a Drowning scene by any stretech of the imagination, this girl is having fun being tottaly dominated by 3 other girls.

Would u think of this video any differently if it was titled 4 girls ina bath having fun?

these girls ARE having fun, they use these sessions to warm up before the actual photo shoots they are employed for, they did this before we started filming and they did it for free ( as in not part of there shoot payment) We now pay them to peek in on what girls really are into when they JUST WANNA have fun.

English girls and to some extent European girls have a much different view about sex than nth american girls, they are alot more open sexiually and they are alot more adventurus, its in the genes lol, Euope is more extreme in attitudes because europe has had a much more extreme heritage than newer countries.

The girl getting dunked in the bath WILL be back for another shoot, not because she is asked to, not because she is paid to but because she gets off on some fun play with other girls and thats a fact. She wasnt hurt during that video, she wasnt even close to being drowned, the only person directing that movie was the girl herself and the other girls were just taking her direction.

Ive seen worse scenes in videos, double anal etc that draws blood from a girls ass and how can a girl enjoy having two huge cocks slammed up her ass? you can even see the girls in these scenes push the guys so they do not enter her to fast, that is much more offensive to me than a girl having alot of fun with other girls.

Anything half as bad as these vids of ours that are scripted are twice as worse, the difference being scripted means the girl has to o it or she dont get paid, with ours we pay them to have fun and whatever they enjoy we will film.

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Meat, I really don't know, but being open minded the way I am,
I would like to put your theory to the test. LMK when I can fly to London and check it myself. I'll post "Tasting Notes",
I am getting better and better with them, wine TN's provide lots of practice
:)

P.S. can we start slow and avoid "totally" on the first flight?
:)

My insurance guy glad to hear that! I glad that it was a girlie director....after wasting Sunday on "Sin City", I know that male directors can do MUCH worse
:)

Serge when your over i will arrange for a personal viewing session, what do you think would go best watching this fun and fivolity up close? red wine or white:)

Meat, I never said it was wrong or bad, I just said I'm not in to ducking. It's just not my thing.

For a domination video it rocks and I'm sure it will push all the right buttons for the right people :)

Meat, I don't wanna view, do I look like some pervert to you???

I wanna be IN IT! I always rate "hands on" expereince above the rest.
:)

wine? I don't think they make it strong enough,
I'll have 1/2 a bottle of vodka before, 1 bottle of vodka with the girls, and 1/2 bottle by myself after I get from the hospital after Sue breaks my head with 2x4
:)

[quote]Originally posted by Winetalk.com@May 2 2005, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meat,May 2 2005, 04:18 AM I wanna be IN IT! I always rate "hands on" expereince above the rest. :)

you will need to grow tits Serge its a female only game:(
Susan on the other hand is elligible:)

[quote]Originally posted by Meat@May 2 2005, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winetalk.com,May 2 2005, 02:07 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Meat,May 2 2005, 04:18 AM I wanna be IN IT! I always rate "hands on" expereince above the rest. :) you will need to grow tits Serge its a female only game:( Susan on the other hand is elligible:)

growing tits? This is too far even for my free spirit, I have to pass this qualifier
;)

Meat, dont bring your piss over here now. I dont want to talk about this anymore. I have said what I had to say and this whole thing makes me sick to my stomache.

And NO Meat, Angel and I are not jelous of your site. Our site is completely different from yours and we like it that way. I even told you I would send you all my sadistic psychos for you to enjoy. Im going to make you some money. I just do not want those fuckers that want to see me drown anywhere near me, I DO not want their attention... so please DO NOT return the favor.


Sabby:)

Sabby, no pun intended, but the complains from the girl about "violence" who puts the whole bottle of wine in her "compadre's" ass - just makes me laugh....

Meat, does mastercard still process this site, with their new rules they just announced?
Do you foresee any problems in that regard for longevity?

Sabby, spin it anyway you want:) i didnt say u were jelous of any site, just that your motives for putting down a site that is "extreme Lesbian" whilst you are developing an "outrageous" extreme lesbian site are questionable.

The only time other than a hello that Angel posted at netpond was 11 of her 12 posts last night condemning our site, isnt she your partner in the lesbian site?

There is enough webmasters to promote to without getting on a high horse busting our chops while you use a baseball bat in your shows which caters to alot of sick fucks that have criminal sexual desires relating to baseball bats and women...

While you are pointing your finger at us you are pointing three more at yourself.

Joe im sure we will be ok with mastercard, our site is legal in every country they process in:)

Meat, don't get me wrong, I am not putting the site down, I am curiosu, cause didn't Mastercard just release some new guidelines or something about a month or so ago? so I wanted to hear from somebody first hand if this was a problem or not . :)

Sabby, no pun intended, but the complains from the girl about "violence" who puts the whole bottle of wine in her "compadre's" ass - just makes me laugh.... [/b][/quote]
I hope it does sweetie... because our site can really be quite comical.

If you want to drown me however... please go look for your fun elsewhere.


Sabby:)

I know and understand this niche. All I wanted to do was give you some advice with dealing with what your clients WILL expect.

I like you alot Meat... I love Aga even more.

I only wish you the best with this.


Sabby:)

Sabby,
I am not looking for the fun with you....my better half would cut my balls if I did.

You brought the point, I brought the point,
you have the periods,
I have.....bold spot on my head,
we all have our insecurities
:)

Sabby,
I am not looking for the fun with you....my better half would cut my balls if I did.

You brought the point, I brought the point,
you have the periods,
I have.....bold spot on my head,
we all have our insecurities
:) [/b][/quote]
I am not insecure Serge. I know what makes people tick... and the progression they go through with a fetish...

Some people dont want to listen so Im going to shut up now. And Im really tired of this anyway...


Sabby:)

I just wish I knew what the fuck was going on....

LOL

Nothing serious Nick...

Sabby is right.

Meat is being a Cunt.

What more do you need to know?


Sabby:)

Nothing serious Nick...

Sabby is right.

Meat is being a Cunt.

What more do you need to know?


Sabby:) [/b][/quote]
Ah well , glad you've cleared that up for me. :)

Sabby, no pun intended, but the complains from the girl about "violence" who puts the whole bottle of wine in her "compadre's" ass - just makes me laugh....[/b][/quote]
That's meathole shit...chicks shove carrots, dildos, and whatever up their twat - you can't equate that with drowning and slapping the hell out of a woman.

Whatever floats someone's boat but dont' compare sticking a bottle of wine in a hooch to what looks like drowning and knocking the piss outta someone.

Apples and oranges.

I am not insecure Serge. I know what makes people tick... and the progression they go through with a fetish...

Some people dont want to listen so Im going to shut up now. And Im really tired of this anyway...


Sabby:) [/b][/quote]
well, at least I am glad I was 1/2 right....about periods
:)

That's meathole shit...chicks shove carrots, dildos, and whatever up their twat - you can't equate that with drowning and slapping the hell out of a woman.

Whatever floats someone's boat but dont' compare sticking a bottle of wine in a hooch to what looks like drowning and knocking the piss outta someone.

Apples and oranges. [/b][/quote]
dear aeon,
let me ask you and you can answer honestly in front of your peers:
what would you rather had,
play drowing in the tub and play pussy eating "under duress" or have a bottle of champagne shoved up your ass?????

If you are sincere, I expect you to post the picture with champagne bottles sticking out of YOUR ass, I'll send you the bottle which would help authenticate your ass hole.

Are you man enough to stay behind your words?????

dear aeon,
let me ask you and you can answer honestly in front of your peers:
what would you rather had,
play drowing in the tub and play pussy eating "under duress" or have a bottle of champagne shoved up your ass?????

If you are sincere, I expect you to post the picture with champagne bottles sticking out of YOUR ass, I'll send you the bottle which would help authenticate your ass hole.

Are you man enough to stay behind your words?????[/b][/quote]
I'm not gonna do either. Firstly, I don't have a hooch and the minute anyone tries to shove something up my ass, they'll learn rather quickly I can have a problem with anger control at times. That as it is, many sluts & tramps have crossed my path I'm proud to say and none have asked me to shove a wine bottle up their snatch. Dildo's & vibrators - yes, but you send a tramp that gets into popping the cork that way and I'll snap all the pics you want and customize them for you.

No matter how hot a woman is, the one thing I won't do is fake drowning/torturing her. While I may be borderline anti-social in the clinical sense with the opinion that most women are manipulative whores, I'm not into randomly torturing them even if it's consensual.

There's an innate difference between what's tantamount to an act of masturbation and simulated torture and attempted murder. I'm not judging people who do it and if the degenerates that get off on that have CC"s - more power to em', but they're not the same game and can't be compared.

Let me add, the minute a chick asks me to drown/torture her is the minute she leaves, either through her own volition or through the fuckin' door. Whores and tramps are great - overt nutjobs aren't.

"""I'm not judging people who do it and if the degenerates"""

LOL

Glad to see you didn't judge the degenerates LOL

Everyone who surfs porn is a fuckin' degenerate...I'll judge them on whether they have a CC or not :salute:

Everyone who surfs porn is a fuckin' degenerate...I'll judge them on whether they have a CC or not :salute: [/b][/quote]
I disagree , I think anyone who is online and has NEVER surfed for porn is a degenerate.

I disagree , I think anyone who is online and has NEVER surfed for porn is a degenerate.[/b][/quote]We'll agree to disagree. When I started doing this shit I didn't even know the difference between chocolate and vanilla sex/BDSM, etc.,. A "mistress" avs webmaster explained the shit to me and I was floored.

Over time, with the shit I've seen, every time I walk out the door and see my neighbors I have to wonder if they're quietly beating it to some pre-teen lolita or rape/beasty crap...it taints your world view.

I don't get off on that extreme shit and I find it repulsive but I'll gladly make money off it. BMW doesn't care if an al qaeda member buys one of their cars...why should I care as long as it’s legal and they can pay.

We'll agree to disagree. When I started doing this shit I didn't even know the difference between chocolate and vanilla sex/BDSM, etc.,. A "mistress" avs webmaster explained the shit to me and I was floored.

Over time, with the shit I've seen, every time I walk out the door and see my neighbors I have to wonder if they're quietly beating it to some pre-teen lolita or rape/beasty crap...it taints your world view.

I don't get off on that extreme shit and I find it repulsive but I'll gladly make money off it. BMW doesn't care if an al qaeda member buys one of their cars...why should I care as long as it’s legal and they can pay. [/b][/quote]
Now THAT I do agree with , but it actually makes me smile LOL

There is nowt as strange as folk.

;-))

Since we've come to an agreement, my whole point is this Sabby chick is a camwhore...she's super hot, and don't get me wrong I'd fuck her silly with my little white man wee wee but it's doubtful I'd ever "date" her cause porn chicks don't do it for me. I actually wanna be able to hold a conversation with even the tramps I date.

Even so, she has a right to draw a line and I think the line she's drawn is appropriate. A woman can be the biggest slut/tramp on the face of the earth but getting disturbed by certain violent shit is normal - regardless of what she does. You can't compare simulated water torture to masturbating with a wine bottle.

Just because she’s done some kinky shit doesn’t mean her opinion is nullified when it comes to this.

aeon,
after you post pics of you masterbating with abottle, you'll earn the rights to speak on the subject...

aeon ,

With your use of "tramps" and "sluts"... a story for you:


Two men walking the road in opposite directions joining two cities meet.

The first man asks "What are the people like in the city I'm going to?"
The second man asks back "What were the people like at the city I'm going to?"
The first man responds "The men are thieving moronic fools and the women sluts and tramps ,What about the city you just left?"
The second man says "I think you will find the people at that city exactly the same as the one you just left"


:)

ahhhh grasshopper.... ;-)))

aeon ,

With your use of "tramps" and "sluts"... a story for you:


Two men walking the road in opposite directions joining two cities meet.

The first man asks "What are the people like in the city I'm going to?"
The second man asks back "What were the people like at the city I'm going to?"
The first man responds "The men are thieving moronic fools and the women sluts and tramps ,What about the city you just left?"
The second man says "I think you will find the people at that city exactly the same as the one you just left"


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ahhhh grasshopper.... ;-)))[/b][/quote]
You're confused nick...I never left the city in the first place.

Serge - put the lube away...and actually read what I wrote. Time for lunch.

me? read? Are you nuts? I am writer, I am not a reader...
:)

Shame in one way you and MikeAI got opted out of this...it was more fun with you two here. There's no love in the pissing anymore.

Shame in one way you and MikeAI got opted out of this...it was more fun with you two here. There's no love in the pissing anymore. [/b][/quote]
we had no choice...Gonzo and Nick made us an offer we couldn't refuse...
:)

we had no choice...Gonzo and Nick made us an offer we couldn't refuse...
:)[/b][/quote]
I'm honestly happy for both of you - moving into totally mainstream is what a lot of us wanna do. Still, it's like yer favorite beer bar is turning from the place you can tell stories and get into fights...into a nightclub.

That kinda sucks. It's just not as much fun.

no you don't.....

it's NOT as much fun as good 'ole..night club.
:)

LOL. Im not looking to fuck you or date you sweetie.

I am a performer. I dont do weird things in my offcam sex life.

This is my job. Same as its your job promoting it, mine is producing it. Most of the time I just find it funny. And I understand through talking with my viewers why they like the stuff they do.

Okay there are a few guys I dont understand like the bug squish guy... and maybe that was an underlying murder fetish of bugs... LOL. Who knows. But I do know what someone is thinking when they want to see a drowning scene like the one posted.

I couldnt stick with the Vanilla stuff... those obsessive "LOVE" fetish guys creep me out the most. Guys whoy stalk your chat your entire shift, freak out when your in a show with someone else, send you 50 emails a day, tell you they are dying when you dont respond to them in 15 minutes... they drive me fucking crazy.

I like the weird ones who come in for their little quirks.. get off... continue on with their life... they are great.

Some things I can deal with some things I just cant. Baseball bat in pussy... fine. A guy asks me to smash the bat across Angel's face and strangle her, I called him a sick fuck told him never to talk to me again, and then kicked him out of my chat.

Even pain shows I can deal with. We had a guy pay almost $1200 for one cam show involving an electro stimulator. We did cam to cam with him and he had one strapped on his nuts too. He can take alot more than we can. Its the pain/pleasure thing with him. But its never violent.

The thing is with most of the really weird guys is that every show will become more intense over time. You start out mild, but then its always more, more MORE... They need to push it further or they need to move on. I know when to let them go. Tehn they usually start the whole thing over with a different girl. It happens all the time.

And if I get any more stalkers... I prefer them NOT to be into drowning and killing.

Im starting my site with a few weird fetishes that I can build on... Im not even going to put any BDSM stuff up until I get a feel for my members tastes. (That drowing video is NOT BDSM - its something else). What turns 1 guy on is going to turn off 10 more.

I wonder what NPC can come up with to top that drowing video and keep their psychos interested... hmmmm.

Lets compare retention stats in a few months :)



Sabby:)

Actually now that I think of it, I dont think my bug squish guy was a murder fetish. We used to squish cherios for awhile too if I couldnt find any bugs fr him.

Maybe it was along the lines of zit popping fetish or bubble wrap... LOL.


Sabby:)

I was making a point; I can't see myself messing with women in the content side of porn. Dating a paralegal, secretary, or even club tramp won't result in a dissertation about squish fetishes coming up when you ask "how was your day at work". That's a conversation I don't wanna fuckin' have over appetizers or relaxing with a DVD.

The only revshare I do are my own AVS sites and only one AVS at that (and AFF since they switched)...yer retention rates will lose with AVS retention. No paysites retain that well and I have more than a few years of data to show that.

...and that whole fetish synopsis you posted was a wee bit too much info. Thanx for the explanation but I prefer to remain blissfully ignorant concerning the intricate details about what gets the degenerates off.

A little rough stuff is OK. Some women like to be dominated & that's cool but electro stimulators and inquisition torture shit is gonna have me heading for the door quicker than a brother at a fuckin' klan rally. :ph34r:

My whole point was, you're opinion about the violence aspect is no less valid because of what you do...I was supporting yer position.

LOL. Well thankyou for your support.

And Im very glad we've established we dont want to date eachother. That point was irrelevent to the converstation.

I laugh at all these webmaster who say they dont want to date content girls.

Are you guys all really that wonderful that you have them all banging on your doors and you have to beat them off with a stick. LMAO!!!

We dont want to date you either.


Sabby:)