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Almighty Colin 04-07-2005 05:44 AM

WASHINGTON - New bipartisan legislation that will be introduced tomorrow would bring some of the most extreme provisions of the Patriot Act back in line with the Constitution, the American Civil Liberties Union said. The bill would restore checks and balances on federal domestic spying powers and narrow several controversial Patriot Act provisions.

"This critical legislation is introduced as bipartisan opposition to some of the worst Patriot Act provisions is growing both inside and outside of Congress," said Gregory T. Nojeim, Associate Director of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office. "As the Senate and House Judiciary committees hold hearings to examine what liberties we’ve lost since 9/11, lawmakers should remember that this remedy is at hand."

The Security and Freedom Enhancement (SAFE) Act was announced at a news conference held today by Senators Larry Craig, a Republican from Idaho, and Richard Durbin, a Democrat from Illinois.

The ACLU said that most of the voluminous Patriot Act is actually unobjectionable from a civil liberties point of view and added that the law makes important changes that give law enforcement agents the tools they need to protect against terrorist attacks. A few provisions, though, unnecessarily trample civil liberties, and must be revised to bring them in line with the Constitution. To that end, the Safe Act would:

* Scale back the government’s authority to seize personal information-- credit reports, communications records and financial information -- through National Security Letters without judicial review. A federal court recently found the NSL statute applicable to Internet Service Providers unconstitutional because of its "unparalleled level of secrecy and coercion." The Safe Act gives the recipient the right to ask a court to limit the request and protect privileged information. It also places limits on gag order restrictions.

* Narrow the "sneak and peek" provision in the Patriot Act, which allows federal agents to get court authorization to search Americans’ homes without notifying them for weeks or even months.

* Refine section 215, which allows the F.B.I. to obtain a rubberstamp court order giving it access to Americans’ medical, business, library and even genetic records without probable cause. The bill would preclude investigative fishing expeditions by requiring some individualized suspicion.

Last week, Montana became the fifth state to pass a resolution critical of the Patriot Act as its state legislature passed one of the most strongly worded resolutions to date. Resolutions have passed in nearly 400 communities representing nearly 60 million people.

"Legislators in communities all across America have fixes to the Patriot Act in mind, and we applaud these U.S. senators for the same focus," Nojeim said. "Both the left and right want to make sure the Patriot Act keeps us safe and free, and this legislation is a critical first step."

DrGuile 04-07-2005 10:21 AM

They'll vote it down like a raise for school teachers

DrGuile 04-07-2005 10:23 AM

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/04/06/fe...eed_more_power/

[...]
However, opposition to the Act is growing on Capitol Hill. US Senators Larry Craig (Republican, Idaho) and Dick Durbin (Democtat, Illinois) plan to re-introduce previously failed legislation called the Security and Freedom Enhancement (SAFE) Act, to curb parts of the "Patriot" Act that they say are excessive.

If it succeeds, the White House is certain to veto it, and it is unlikely that Congress would get the votes to override. Thus it's probable that the Patriot Act will remain in force, with only superficial concessions to privacy and civil liberties.

JoesHO 04-07-2005 11:05 AM

Impeach BUSH!

Almighty Colin 04-07-2005 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrGuile@Apr 7 2005, 09:24 AM
If it succeeds, the White House is certain to veto it
Certainty? "W" isn't even aware of the fact that he can veto.

TheEnforcer 04-07-2005 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Almighty Colin+Apr 7 2005, 10:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Almighty Colin @ Apr 7 2005, 10:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DrGuile@Apr 7 2005, 09:24 AM
If it succeeds, the White House is certain to veto it
Certainty? "W" isn't even aware of the fact that he can veto. [/b][/quote]
Hahahahaha.. so true!!

Mike AI 04-07-2005 01:44 PM

4 more years!!

sextoyking 04-07-2005 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Almighty Colin+Apr 7 2005, 08:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Almighty Colin @ Apr 7 2005, 08:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DrGuile@Apr 7 2005, 09:24 AM
If it succeeds, the White House is certain to veto it
Certainty? "W" isn't even aware of the fact that he can veto. [/b][/quote]
hahaha Well said Colin :)

Lets see - bush has vetoed 0 or 1 time???

TheEnforcer 04-07-2005 02:54 PM

Saw this at a political forum and just couldn't resist posting it just for MikeAi!! :)

http://www.xxxgalleryland.com/shirts/sheeple.jpg

TheEnforcer 04-07-2005 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking+Apr 7 2005, 01:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sextoyking @ Apr 7 2005, 01:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by Almighty Colin@Apr 7 2005, 08:51 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-DrGuile
Quote:

@Apr 7 2005, 09:24 AM
If it succeeds, the White House is certain to veto it



Certainty? "W" isn't even aware of the fact that he can veto.

hahaha Well said Colin :)

Lets see - bush has vetoed 0 or 1 time??? [/b][/quote]
Zip, nand, zilch, none. All hat and no cattle in that department for sure!! :P

Dravyk 04-07-2005 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Almighty Colin+Apr 7 2005, 10:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Almighty Colin @ Apr 7 2005, 10:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-DrGuile@Apr 7 2005, 09:24 AM
If it succeeds, the White House is certain to veto it
Certainty? "W" isn't even aware of the fact that he can veto.[/b][/quote]
Bush wouldn't know how to spell it either.

LionDollars 04-07-2005 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Almighty Colin+Apr 7 2005, 07:51 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Almighty Colin @ Apr 7 2005, 07:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DrGuile@Apr 7 2005, 09:24 AM
If it succeeds, the White House is certain to veto it
Certainty? "W" isn't even aware of the fact that he can veto. [/b][/quote]
ROFL.... he is a total mushroom!


L$

Mike AI 04-07-2005 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEnforcer@Apr 7 2005, 01:55 PM
Saw this at a political forum and just couldn't resist posting it just for MikeAi!! :)

http://www.xxxgalleryland.com/shirts/sheeple.jpg


I think the Klingons and Borg have effected your brain!

:lol: :lol:

TheEnforcer 04-07-2005 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI+Apr 7 2005, 02:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mike AI @ Apr 7 2005, 02:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-TheEnforcer@Apr 7 2005, 01:55 PM
Saw this at a political forum and just couldn't resist posting it just for MikeAi!! :)

http://www.xxxgalleryland.com/shirts/sheeple.jpg


I think the Klingons and Borg have effected your brain!

:lol: :lol:[/b][/quote]
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!

http://www.xxxgalleryland.com/shirts...similation.jpg


:)

grimm 04-08-2005 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEnforcer@Apr 7 2005, 10:55 AM
Saw this at a political forum and just couldn't resist posting it just for MikeAi!! :)

http://www.xxxgalleryland.com/shirts/sheeple.jpg

hahahah baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah


free thinkers unite!:)

Trev 04-08-2005 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEnforcer+Apr 8 2005, 12:24 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TheEnforcer @ Apr 8 2005, 12:24 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI@Apr 7 2005, 02:57 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-TheEnforcer
Quote:

@Apr 7 2005, 01:55 PM
Saw this at a political forum and just couldn't resist posting it just for MikeAi!! :)

http://www.xxxgalleryland.com/shirts/sheeple.jpg




I think the Klingons and Borg have effected your brain!

:lol: :lol:

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!

http://www.xxxgalleryland.com/shirts...similation.jpg


:)[/b][/quote]
Personally I'd have gone with:
http://www.deepanal.net/borgqueen.jpg OR http://www.deepanal.net/locutus.jpg

Now they :rokk:

TheEnforcer 04-08-2005 06:36 PM

Man.. the borg are the perfect villian. :)


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