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You can create a fully e-commerce enabled website in less than an hour and you don't need to learn any html programming or use any special programs.

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Check out the new kid on the block
http://www.merchantboss.com

Wow, sounds like a great company, we will have to look into them for our new paysites coming out .....

I think having multiple processors, and a variety of ways to pay, with a cascading billing script in place is the safest way to go.

so I am excited to hear about another outlet. :okthumb:

Excellent news and Welcome :)

We will need an ad from Merchant Boss for the magazine, issue 2 of Sexines.

See sig ;)

looks like an excellent program - and welcome to oprano guys

Welcome :okthumb:

Looks like a great program.
Welcome to Oprano

So I guess they can arrange for you an offshore merchant , and an offshore corp to operate it through...

Looks very very interesting . :)

It certainly looks like a processing alternative to check out as it seems to have many intruiging aspects to it.

Processing in different zones for the same URL will get your babies eaten by Satan...

I was thinking the same...


However what if you have comnplete new set ups..


like for instance...

Drguileiswelsh.com processing through Epoch owned by a corp in Nevada

and

Drguileiswelsh.net processing though merchantboss , and owned through an offshoore corp?

I was thinking the same...


However what if you have comnplete new set ups..


like for instance...

Drguileiswelsh.com processing through Epoch owned by a corp in Nevada

and

Drguileiswelsh.net processing though merchantboss , and owned through an offshoore corp? [/b][/quote]
That's fine. As long as the whois record match the company and region.

But now, for using those domains, you have a defamation lawsuit on your hand.

That's fine. As long as the whois record match the company and region.

But now, for using those domains, you have a defamation lawsuit on your hand. [/b][/quote]
Ahh..so you admit being called Welsh is defamation!!!!

I would rent a cottage in Wales (prolly cause $1 a month cause no one wants to live in that shithole) and insist on being tried in accordance with Welsh law.



It is however a way round it , and a way to spread your eggs into other baskets.

Anyone we know invovled with Merchant Boss? Their site is slick, and they certainly are offering wonderful products. (It would be nice to have merchant accounts ready to go when 3rd party processing gets yanked).

Any Oprano family members have experience with them?

Nope...

Seem to be the new kid on the block.

Just became one of our sponsors here.

Based in UK.

Maybe we can get one of there guys onboard to post and maybe do a Q and A.?

Time difference may work against us , but I am sure if questions were posted , answers would arrive :)

I sent an e-mail and ICQ to the guy I talk to there so I imagine as soon as he gets either of them he, or someone else from the place, will come and answer questions for people. They aren't on quite the same clock we are so it might be a part of the night crew posting. :)

I guess you don't notice other people's crappy grammar or typos on their sites...

Not to be a wet blanket here, but board advertising does not a legitimate company make.

And for a company that's supposedly UK based, their site doesn't look like it was done with someone with a decent grasp of the English language. Maybe that's not important to some people, but if I were to go to my banks website and it was full of errors, I'd seriously wonder what else they were fucking up.

I agree.

Not using spell check is almost as bad as hiring whores who advocate stealing recurrings. I wonder if CCbill and Paycom believe that? Does Paycom think if someone changes processors they should lose their recurrings?

Both webmasters and affiliates might want to know this...

Wow, you are stupid.

Wow, you are stupid.[/b][/quote]
It's virtually impossible to take anyone who willingly partook in late night romantic rimjobs with that shaw dork seriously. That's like taking a meatholes tramp’s views on functionalism seriously.

When you find some time after the latest fucking mensa meeting...again - do you advise the people you represent to pull an adultcheck on their webmasters and clients?

It's virtually impossible to take anyone who willingly partook in late night romantic rimjobs with that shaw dork seriously. That's like taking a meatholes tramp’s views on functionalism seriously.

When you find some time after the latest fucking mensa meeting...again - do you advise the people you represent to pull an adultcheck on their webmasters and clients? [/b][/quote]
If you're going to try and sling mud at me, at least make sure it's got rocks in it.

The Shaw stuff is worn out like the condom your daddy was wearing the night you were conceived.

And Adultcheck wasn't a client of mine.

My opinions on resellers can be found by doing a simple search, I haven't changed them in years.

If you're going to try and sling mud at me, at least make sure it's got rocks in it.

The Shaw stuff is worn out like the condom your daddy was wearing the night you were conceived.

And Adultcheck wasn't a client of mine.

My opinions on resellers can be found by doing a simple search, I haven't changed them in years.[/b][/quote]
How many posts does it take to get you to answer a simple fuckin' question? Is this what people pay you for, to dance around like a fuckin' white house press secretary?

Again..."do you advise the people you represent to pull an adultcheck on their webmasters and clients?"

Do you or don't you...? It's very fuckin' simple. You wanna slam on this advertiser here, let's see what you think...with your legs closed.

Stop crying like a little girl.

If you want my advice you can do just like my clients and pay for it.

aeon, you are a friggin dork, the way you always try to bash on women tells me you never got laid in life did ya....

your all bullshit anyway, always hiding behind a nick, never talking about what you do ( unless it is some made up fucking FANTASY YOU WATCHED ON DISCOVERY THE NIGHT BEFORE)

you are always negative and NEVER offer any god advice or help

just bullshit....

Apparently he was an unproductive Adultcheck webmaster a couple of years ago.

Apparently he was an unproductive Adultcheck webmaster a couple of years ago.[/b][/quote]
Aww...this is cute. You have Joe standing up for you now so you don't have to actually answer. It's the idiot creampie romance. :inlove:

I was raised on a different AVS bitch, who didn't listen to whores telling them to steal from their webmasters.

Aww...this is cute. You have Joe standing up for you now so you don't have to actually answer. It's the idiot creampie romance. :inlove:

I was raised on a different AVS bitch, who didn't listen to whores telling them to steal from their webmasters. [/b][/quote]
your all bullshit, I said it before, and will say it again...

all talk and no action....

funny thng is it always seems to be women you go after most, loser ... :moon:

your all bullshit, I said it before, and will say it again...

all talk and no action....

funny thng is it always seems to be women you go after most, loser ... :moon:[/b][/quote]
Do you even know what adultcheck did Mr. "I'm fuckin honesty"? You stupid motherfucker, you'd best get a history lesson before you jump into shit you know nothing about obviously.

Let me break it down for you, they decided to run offshore with 1000's of people's recurrings and not pay them. They didn’t cancel them or stop billing people...they kept billing them and not paying webmasters.

If this was a man, woman, hermaphrodite, or fuckin' asexual leprechaun, it's all the same. They pulled a globill/atherton, etc., but guess what...? They're still in business with ass kissers supporting their new projects. This miss high and fucking mighty you're defending has said she agrees with that decision...and then has the bitch balls to come slam a processor that hasn’t ripped anyone off.

Now you go back into that crusted globule of oatmeal you call a brain and rethink your statements. Do you want to be known as a supporter of thieves...?

Adultcheck..????

Yeah , I made a fucking fortune milking there links list to hell. :)

You mean people were actually trying to get people to join adultcheck?

Shit , in 97/98 I was making 30-50k a mth just on the upsells from there and other AVSes LOL

Oh and as far as I know I don't think KK worked for them.


But lets see if they asked me as a consultant I would have said ,"Do what is best for Adultcheck"

WTF else would expect a consultant to advise???


"Give all your money to Green Peace" ????

Do you even know what adultcheck did Mr. "I'm fuckin honesty"? You stupid motherfucker, you'd best get a history lesson before you jump into shit you know nothing about obviously.

Let me break it down for you, they decided to run offshore with 1000's of people's recurrings and not pay them. They didn’t cancel them or stop billing people...they kept billing them and not paying webmasters.

If this was a man, woman, hermaphrodite, or fuckin' asexual leprechaun, it's all the same. They pulled a globill/atherton, etc., but guess what...? They're still in business with ass kissers supporting their new projects. This miss high and fucking mighty you're defending has said she agrees with that decision...and then has the bitch balls to come slam a processor that hasn’t ripped anyone off.

Now you go back into that crusted globule of oatmeal you call a brain and rethink your statements. Do you want to be known as a supporter of thieves...? [/b][/quote]
LOL women hater :nyanya:

Do you even know what adultcheck did Mr. "I'm fuckin honesty"? You stupid motherfucker, you'd best get a history lesson before you jump into shit you know nothing about obviously.

Let me break it down for you, they decided to run offshore with 1000's of people's recurrings and not pay them. They didn’t cancel them or stop billing people...they kept billing them and not paying webmasters.

If this was a man, woman, hermaphrodite, or fuckin' asexual leprechaun, it's all the same. They pulled a globill/atherton, etc., but guess what...? They're still in business with ass kissers supporting their new projects. This miss high and fucking mighty you're defending has said she agrees with that decision...and then has the bitch balls to come slam a processor that hasn’t ripped anyone off.

Now you go back into that crusted globule of oatmeal you call a brain and rethink your statements. Do you want to be known as a supporter of thieves...? [/b][/quote]
Reprehensible....but is it true?

Why didn't anyone sue?

Why hasn't there name really been dragged through the mud.

I vaguely remember something about them trimming unproductive webmasters...

Prolly a defence against people like me.

At one point 1 in 10 links on there sites liknk list page were mine.

And to be fair to them I don't think I earned $1000 from them in any month.


I was just bleeding the hits from it.


If it sends hits , somehow I can spam it :)

That's what I like about you...you're a fuckin' honest theif who doesn't try and hide it :hic:

:pearl:

Reprehensible....but is it true?

Why didn't anyone sue?

Why hasn't there name really been dragged through the mud.[/b][/quote]
It's true...and their names are being dragged through the mud (aka the truth) and you're helping right now.

You sue someone in south america or where ever the fuck they ran off to.

That's what I like about you...you're a fuckin' honest theif who doesn't try and hide it :hic: [/b][/quote]
Why Thanks ;-))

and lately I must say I do find your posts interesting. If we all sat round agreeing with each other and sucking each others cocks , I'd leave the board. LOL

For the benefit of myself ( by then I wasn't personally affected by them so sorry to say I didn't pay attention) can you explain what happened.

I thought they merely threw some webmasters out of there program.

I knew nothing of them keeping recurs.

They kept those recurrings and decided not to pay the people that sent them. Think of the goldmine...get 1000's of people to send you recurring joins and just decide to not pay them...

And oh yea...they kept billing those customers. This wasn't a program that just closed up shop. They got a handful of people to fuck over other webmasters, and offered others a bone (eg send X amount of sales to our non converting creatives and we'll pay you your recurrings - hllarious) You should take a look at the avs side of things sometimes.

Didn't ibill just say we'll pay you your recurrings if you send x amount of sales? Sounds fuckin' familiar...wonder where they learned that from?

Where's that meathead Joe at now - is he volunteering at a battered woman's shelter?...or that kimmykim tramp? They should chime in here.

Anyone in their right mind would send traffic to this new processor before they would send to anything adult check is associated with...they've already proven what they'll do with your recurring income...

They kept those recurrings and decided not to pay the people that sent them. Think of the goldmine...get 1000's of people to send you recurring joins and just decide to not pay them...

And oh yea...they kept billing those customers. This wasn't a program that just closed up shop. They got a handful of people to fuck over other webmasters, and offered others a bone (eg send X amount of sales to our non converting creatives and we'll pay you your recurrings - hllarious) You should take a look at the avs side of things sometimes.

Didn't ibill just say we'll pay you your recurrings if you send x amount of sales? Sounds fuckin' familiar...wonder where they learned that from? [/b][/quote]
Fuck man I didn't know that.

The only person I know who has any connection with Adult Check is WegCory , maybe he can shed some light from the Adultcheck point of view.

But , frankly , I believe you.

I've known you to be obnoxious and annoying , but always truthful. ;-)

Thats a multi million dollar result for them.

People are telling me in icq that you are right too.

And it does sound like Ibills MO too :(

Cory had nothing to do with it. If he did I would have raped him publicly. He did the best he could in a tough situation...better than I could have.

I respect him...and would deal with him. He shouldn't be associated with this.

Cory had nothing to do with it. If he did I would have raped him publicly. He did the best he could in a tough situation...better than I could have.

I respect him...and would deal with him. He shouldn't be associated with this. [/b][/quote]
I wasn't associating him with this in any way.

I thought he may know what the "Official" line was from Adultcheck however.

No worries...I wasn't implying that. I saw how hard cory tried to do the right thing so I don't want this to be associated with him. Good people got hit in the nuts because of these fuckin thieves. This piss is personal.

Now I want that bitch who supports this decision and had the audacity to slam a processor for spelling mistakes back in here.

Aeon is 100% correct about AdultCheck. I recall vividly watching Paul Bakir (who was the cunt that owned it) betting 10 grand a hand at black jack in Vegas like it was shit for brains sipping Cristal outta the panties of a crack whore (draw your own conclusions))

1 in 10 on the AC links list Nick? You must have been in colusion with Green Guy, whom I believe still is with AC.

Adultcheck went south while I was asleep at the wheel, and when I came back to it, I had alot of Gold sites still sending to them, but no checks, no nothing. Just a shitload of webmasters I'd taught the AVS game back in the day, with simply a silent fuck you as a thanks.

Karma has a way of making things right they say. And, I've always believed in Karma (especially when you have da' facts ma'am)

Adultcheck, it's owners, and anyone who promotes them now, is a fucking crook. Those cunts belong under the jail for what they've done.

With all the site script kiddos that came about a few years ago that were cranking out 100s of sites a day for LL purposes? Do you realize how much traffic they stole?

An amazing in your face fucking. Legendary. One that will never be forgotten, forgiven, nor a non target for retribution.

I may be long of tooth, but that doesn't mean that they're still not extremely sharp.

:okthumb:

Rest assured old man...what adultcheck did won't be forgotten as long as myself and others are around. Nor will the whores that suck them off be forgotten. period.

What???

Umm as I ezplained , I "invented' the trick of building the worse AVS site in the world.The reason for it was in answer to this question I posed myself.

""Where can I get high quality traffic without a link back?"

Simple.

Build AVS sites.

Every surfer surfing an AVS link list has used a CC in order to be even on that list.

I tried it, it did great.

I was building loads of AVS sites a day.

I reached 10% of Adultchecks links when I had something like 800 sites on there list that had 8000 sites listed total.

This is in 97/98/99.

The surfer already had a membership , but once he bought one he would surf the adult check site and go look at the other sites he now had membership too.I had 10% of those.

Once he entered my site I had upsells out the ass.

I shared this trick with Meat , GG , Tommy and some others.

Meat told everyone so soon everyone was doing it. LOL

Again you must be rusty.....I did not build sites to get joins TO the AVS but to suck hits away from their existing members.

Adultcheck if I recalled changed their rules for what minimum content on the sites were, the first time they did this they allowed my crappy sites to stay.The second time they insisted I upgraded them.

As tyhis trick was by now sucked dry I didn"t bother.

I don't think I ever built a "Gold" site.

So basically...fuck you Bill.

When I do something iffy , I admit it.

As for GG still being on board there. Well he obviously had enough sites gaining sales to be left on board with AC.

What did you expect him to do?

Insist on being removed and lose his recurs too?

I sure as hell wouldn't have.

For the record , I have no AVS sites left as far as I know.

I realize I am far from a crowd favorite here, but here are my limited comments:

-I left the company beforehand. Further than that, AC is a company with a proven track record of insuring that current, as well as former, employees do not discuss the dynamics of the business. That is not a bad thing, they just run their business intelligently in concern with not allowing internal business concepts to become compromised. That said, I will never comment on their business. I will never give an opinion on how they run their business.


I worked for AC at a time that AC was in the midst of laying the groundwork for the Industry. I worked in close confines with those that used that money to go on and create bigger, bolder, more prosperous ventures. I know how, why, where and who. AC paid me well while I was there, and without them, I would not have the ventures and incredible job that I have today. That is a fact. So although AC is not popular with everyone, fact is, I started there and they allowed me the opportunity to learn things that, believe it or not, most people in this thread are clueless to. I am a loyal guy. I would never bad mouth a former employer. Ever. Pay attention and you will see that as much as I joke around, I take having class very serious.

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Aeon, for the last time, is a webmaster. I have never, nor do I currently agree with the way that he comes after people, especially KK, whom has certainly helped me out from day 1; but, he is a very intelligent webmaster with viable business ideas. I know he makes money. I know this as fact. He knows I know this as fact. Some of the most successful people to date are rarely mentioned. I find it funny, and I know he does as well.

At times, I laugh because most of his post are humerous / witty. He has "attacked" me, but I have never cared. My policy is and remains, if you attack me, make it funny and have a point. He always seems to acocmplish both. In essence, I think people just need to lighten up and realize they are on the Internet.

That said, Nick, I really enjoy your attitude towards him posting his opinion. It certainly struck a chord with me. He has a lot to offer, as do a lot of people that may be deemed by the Oprano crowd as worthless. Being accepting of his very valid opinions can only serve Oprano well.

By reputation, I have thick skin. I have never minded a "hard" environment, so long as it is productive. You can call me a bitch, if my jump shot starts falling, we are all good.

This thread has about 5 people with a clue, which is actually a few more than usual. Not aimed at Oprano, but a general consensus of all boards when something of this gravity is posted.

So are sites using http://www.janerus.com/ those who continued working with AdultCheck? Or did they also take new clients after the "clean up"? :unsure:

LOL! :moon:

I thought perhaps you were talking about more recent history rather than the golden years when you could spam the bajesus bells out of the link lists.

My bad Nick, sorry! :nyanya:

I appreciate the words Cory but I think you know I could give two shits what these asswipes think. That being said, every time adultcheck gets brought up, you seem to inevitably get mentioned so I wanted to stop that shit before it started. It simply isn't fair to you and I won't be a party to perpetuating that kinda crap.

If these old scamsters deem you worthless/don't like you, consider that a medal of honort. I do.

BTW, if you ask for a hug, I'll knock your teeth down your fuckin' throat.

I saw that janerus thing a while back. I'm not really sure what it is other than it's part of the AC fuck people empire.

That is your perception.

I can honestly say I have no problem with you in the slightest and look forward to meeting you and having a drink. Of course mine will be coffee :)

I think a lot of these old animosities should be quoshed. Most of the participants have little memory of the events that caused them , or in fact , a false impression of what actually did occur.

I have also said I have no problem with aeon. None whatsoever. As far As I'm concerned he is a valued contributer here.Always putting in thoughts outside the "party line"

Oprano IS changing , and will contunue to do so.

We don't and won't have 20 will ya hit it threads.

We don't and won't have 20 threads created to cause drama.

We want to move wth this business to the next level. Yes there is a time for banter and argument , it is part of any community.

But with VISA etc etc I think there are enough problems facing us all.

Frankly I see people shying away from the old "lets cause drama ", "listen to me (see my post count , I am someone!)" and turning towards business.

Hell I picked on Juicy , everyone yawned. I don't need to be told twice LOL

I won't bring this dispute to the board again until it is resolved. People here are basically uninterested.I understand that.

I want all the previous baggage that may be being carried by people to be dropped.I carry very little baggage.I have a problem with Brad. Really its no big thing , we've never done business together and prolly never will. Thats pretty much it. I don't really feel the need to harrass him anymore.

Aga myself and Meat talk now. Its a good thing

I think the time for trial by webmaster board is passing.

Frankly if someone REALLY pisses me off now , I'll deal with it off board.

Why piss on a webmaster board?

I'd much rather hit someone with a writ (public documnet) and ensure everyone in his/her community is aware of his/her occupation by proliferating the reach of that public document. etc etc.Why fuck with someone on the web. This world is virtual , take it to the BM world.

Meat and Aga did it to me , to this day if you search for me , that writ comes up.:)

The internet changes rapidly .Webmaster bnoards outta change just as quick.

What really gets me is why no one , if these allegations over Adultcheck are true, hasn't sued.

Why hasn't someone called law enforcement and met with them , with a lawyer , and levelled a criminal allegation. I am sure Law Enforcement would happily investigate.

I fully intend to pursue that course of action against IBill within weeks. The amount they owe me warrants it.

Will I win? Will anyone get arrested? Prolly not. But it sure will make me feel better and will cause there smile as they spend my money to slip a little maybe :)

The web is slipping out of the days of the Wild Wild West.

Some of the clever gunfighters and bandits switched hats and became Marshalls.

Hell Would you believe I have just been asked to consult on Bulk Email to a major corp looking to stop it....poacher turned gamekeeper. Looks like it will pay just as well too ;-))

ah...well :)

Indictments don't happen overnight. I'm more than sure the authorities were bombarded with complaints.

Are you gonna sue someone in the west indies or panama btw?