cmon, tell me what the fuck is your problem. does it have to do something with choice poker? do they owe you money? did you find spyware on your computer? did you????? you know I post and am mod at oprano poker. but you have to try to be slick and make a scene at j-b-m and try to knock me down when I wasn't looking.



fuck you and if it is true that choice poker did install spyware, let me see the fuckin proof. If it is true then I'll refund EVERY players APT money account right now, and I will close down APT . I have no access or knowledge to this (alleged)spyware you read on a post from a bonus whore at a poker board. I would not condone such a thing and I would never be a part of that if it was true.








can any tech guy help me out here and see if choice poker has spyware on it.please?



Last edited by masterp74 at Apr 12 2004, 07:21 PM

MasterP,
pay no attention to KC,
his tongue is deeply entrenched in weasel's ass,
that's what friends are for.

Weasel blackmailed him a year ago and aparently it worked, he scared KC shitless
;-))))

hahahahahaha,
I'd be much more interested to find if KC's counters have them and "perfected" a-la crocodile counters
;-)))))

I don't know what his deal is, it's something deeper than a post he read at a poker board



Last edited by masterp74 at Apr 12 2004, 07:25 PM

I don't know what his deal is, it's something deeper than a post he read at a poker board[/b][/quote]
Masterp,
leave him to me,
i'll bundle him with Hooper and his "wares"
;-)))

I gotta admit,
watching spyders eating each other on the bottom of the barrel,
like MoJo predicted back in 1998,
is MORE fun than I anticipated!
;_)))

Masterp,
leave him to me,
i'll bundle him with Hooper and his "wares"
;-)))

I gotta admit,
watching spyders eating each other on the bottom of the barrel,
like MoJo predicted back in 1998,
is MORE fun than I anticipated!
;_)))[/b][/quote]
cool, I'll lay off.



sorry serge for posting this. but you know when I post something like this, I'm fuckin mad as hell about it.


people try,
www.sitemeter.com



Last edited by masterp74 at Apr 12 2004, 07:35 PM

cool, I'll lay off.



sorry serge for posting this. but you know when I post something like this, I'm fuckin mad as hell about it.


people try,
www.sitemeter.com [/b][/quote]
and you should be....I volunteered to help you just because I know a little bit more about where the legs grow from.

don't sweat the small stuff, P,
they can all suck your pippy as far as I am concerened

Two days ago my machine was bogging down like crazy even after restarts. I kept checking the task manager (ctrl-alt-del) and kept finding cpoker.exe listed in there even though I didn't have it open.

It wasn't in my startup file anywhere, don't know what was making it happen.

I just fired up apt and choice for a minute and shut them down, and checked my task manager - no cpoker.exe.
So I don't know what the deal was the other day; maybe something just got hung up in memory and wouldn't close properly. This might be what KC was seeing (haven't seen his other post).
Just for clarification, I do NOT think it has anything to do with spyware.

thank carrie for the info. There are poker boards out there and believe it or not the posters there are worst then sig whores(like myself). they go and find the littest flaw to bitch about so they can get their bonus money and then leave without thinking twice(bonus whores).



Last edited by masterp74 at Apr 12 2004, 07:56 PM

Well, thats what you get for posting on Weasel's board........... :yowsa:

J/k....

I know of no adware that came in my install of choice poker. But I did that install back when you first started the the whole poker thing around here.

If there is adware wrapped into the install package, probably the easiest way to find out would be to

1. Find a clean computer (I use an old machine that I wipe out completely and do a clean OS install whenever I am investigating, but any machine that you are fairly sure does not have any malware/adware installed will do)

2. Run Spybot and Hijack This (and any other spyware/malware detectors you know of) against the machine to see what is installed. Hijackthis will give a complete printout of all the different programs installed, browser helpers, registry keys, pretty much everything.

3. Do the choice poker install

4. Run Spybot and Hijack This again to see exactl what changes were made and what nasties might be in the install package.


If you have access to the actual programmers that put together the install pack, ask them to check and make sure that the current download package is their package and has not been tampered with. If in doubt, ask for a newly compiled version.

Other than that, I am not sure what else you can do to guarantee that the installer is clean at this point.

Once you know you have a clean install package. Make note of the date/time of he file and the filesize. Run it through a CRC computation and note the CRC. Then put together a script to make sure at download time that the install package has not changed, that it has the same date/time stamp, file size and CRC.

Well, thats what you get for posting on Weasel's board........... :yowsa:

J/k....

I know of no adware that came in my install of choice poker. But I did that install back when you first started the the whole poker thing around here.

If there is adware wrapped into the install package, probably the easiest way to find out would be to

1. Find a clean computer (I use an old machine that I wipe out completely and do a clean OS install whenever I am investigating, but any machine that you are fairly sure does not have any malware/adware installed will do)

2. Run Spybot and Hijack This (and any other spyware/malware detectors you know of) against the machine to see what is installed. Hijackthis will give a complete printout of all the different programs installed, browser helpers, registry keys, pretty much everything.

3. Do the choice poker install

4. Run Spybot and Hijack This again to see exactl what changes were made and what nasties might be in the install package.


If you have access to the actual programmers that put together the install pack, ask them to check and make sure that the current download package is their package and has not been tampered with. If in doubt, ask for a newly compiled version.

Other than that, I am not sure what else you can do to guarantee that the installer is clean at this point.

Once you know you have a clean install package. Make note of the date/time of he file and the filesize. Run it through a CRC computation and note the CRC. Then put together a script to make sure at download time that the install package has not changed, that it has the same date/time stamp, file size and CRC.[/b][/quote]
thank you for the info. I have WebTV, so i'll wait till KC buys me a brand new computer to check it out. I want a laptop BTW, KC


side note- sarettah, sorry for that remark last week I made. i was wrong to begin with



Last edited by masterp74 at Apr 12 2004, 08:04 PM

I just read the "other" thread and then hopped over to 2+2 and read that one - and there is one thing I agree on.
One person mentioned that they started getting slammed with worm emails within the hour of installing Choice.
This is also my experience, but it took more like 24 hours. I hadn't had one worm email to that address previously (it was my home addy @ cox) and these emails specifically had choice poker words in their subject and/or message. There was always a zip or .exe file attached.
I was getting like 3 a day.

I don't have that address anymore, but I just looked and I do still have ONE of the emails (don't know why I didn't throw it away). It's coming from choice_poker@yahoo.com, the subject says "hello", the message itself says "here, the serials", and there's an attached mails.zip file.

Here's the headers:
Return-Path: <choice_poker@yahoo.com>
Received: from cox.net ([68.190.209.10]) by fed1mtai03.cox.net
(InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP
id <20040222032640.EEDU21705.fed1mtai03.cox.net@cox.n et>
for <carriebartkowiak@cox.net>; Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:26:40 -0500
From: choice_poker@yahoo.com
To: carriebartkowiak@cox.net
Subject: hello
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:25:01 -0600
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="06708771"
Message-Id: <20040222032640.EEDU21705.fed1mtai03.cox.net@cox.n et>


here, the serials

PS - I'd be happy to forward that to whomever you like.

Sare do you want a copy so you can dissasemble it?

yeah I havn't had choice poker on my computer since APT came out, so I don't know about that. I did uninstalled APT during the last update last week and reinstalled and everything seems ok.

I don't know what his deal is, it's something deeper than a post he read at a poker board[/b][/quote]
I never post on the Oprano Poker Board. I saw you were posting over there.. I had just seen this thread at 2+2.. so I asked.

That is all.

I have no problem with you.

BTW, Fuck you too.

what spyware/trojan horces is this fuck you bundled with?

Just a note, if you start digging into this and decide you want to change backend software for APT, I *really* like the Pokeroo/Poker Stars interface (Pokeroo has done some interesting background-change ability stuff with it and has the mini-table screen, but Pokerstars has 4-color decks and Pokeroo doesn't), and I also really like the Jetset Poker interface as well (ranks shown in tourneys, smileys, nice clean interface).
Since Pokeroo is just starting up and still in beta you could probably swing some type of association with them pretty easily.

Just as long as you don't go with the Prima software (7Sultans, CaptainCooks, Vegas Villa etc)... gawd what a resource hog that is, and it takes up the entire freaking screen with no way to resize it.

what spyware/trojan horces is this fuck you bundled with?[/b][/quote]
That is a plain jane, good ole American Fuck you :)

That is a plain jane, good ole American Fuck you :)[/b][/quote]
sure, sure, that's what sextracker was telling for ages, and ....
your fuck you is as plain as their counters...

are your counters as plain as your fuck you?

KC,
it's time to pay for Santino....

That is a plain jane, good ole American Fuck you :)[/b][/quote]
I really don't have any beefs with you either, hell I don't even know you. just in the future remember I'm with adult poker tour, and I'm not customer service for choice poker.

lololol... Thanx Carrie :) But I don't need them. That sounds like a Netsky, (mydoom competitor) variant

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyc...e=WORM_NETSKY.B

So, my guess would be that whoevers mailbox is being used as a repository for the confirmation emails is infected with the worm and does not know it.

So, the solution is to find out who that is.

The confirmation is probably being generated by the server with a copy going to someone's email box. If the server is linux, then it can be ruled out as being infected. If the server is NT or 2000, it could be infected (if the server is NT or 2000 I highly reccomend it being moved to Apache on Linux immediately as in yesterday or sooner).

Whomever is being copied on the email going out ends up with the email addy in their local box. Worms can scan the local box and sends to anyone it finds (btw, it also scans temp files and internet temporary files for addys to mail to, not just the email boxes. So it can extract email addresses from html stored in the temporary files). It then makes up a fake send address and mails using it's own engine, so a lot of the email scanners don't catch it going out from the box, since they are attaching themselves to a mailbox and not necessarilly to port 25.

So MasterP, if you are getting copied on teh confirmation emails, run a virus scanner and make sure you are clean. If there are others that get a copy, have them check their machines.



Last edited by sarettah at Apr 12 2004, 11:44 PM

sure, sure, that's what sextracker was telling for ages, and ....
your fuck you is as plin as their counters...

are your counters as plain as your fuck you?

KC,
it's time to pay for Santino....[/b][/quote]
Absolutely :)

I read that thread at 2+2 yesterday...

Today, I see MasterP's thread... I was going to play in the tournament and as soon as I connected it started downloading some updates. I wanted to hear his comment on it..

I'm not sure why MasterP needs to run back to Oprano and start a new thread about it when apparently the issue was a non-issue and was resolved. Maybe he should have posted in the 2+2 forum to put the issue to rest over there.

I'm off to dinner.

Carrie , i'm am looking at all the poker sofeware sites out there as we speak. I'm not looking to change, just looking to branch out outside of adult as well. pokeroo was my first choice 5 months ago before I even started. they still need work out the kinks. It's a whole new industry with ways to go yet. when people say poker, first thing that comes to mind is gamblimg. When I hear poker, I think industry market tool to the next level.

I really don't have any beefs with you either, hell I don't even know you. just in the future remember I'm with adult poker tour, and I'm not customer service for choice poker.[/b][/quote]
All I know is you're somehow affiliated with Choice poker.. and IF it was downloading spyware and shit then it should be discussed. If not, then put it to rest and I'll never post about it again.

hmmm...where else are the brains out there?

KC,
you are an expert on counters...

can you enlighten us with your expertise and tell us what spywares can be bundled with them?

...if you don't know the answer, would you recomend Bama and his expertise?

Absolutely :)

I read that thread at 2+2 yesterday...

Today, I see MasterP's thread... I was going to play in the tournament and as soon as I connected it started downloading some updates. I wanted to hear his comment on it..

I'm not sure why MasterP needs to run back to Oprano and start a new thread about it when apparently the issue was a non-issue and was resolved. Maybe he should have posted in the 2+2 forum to put the issue to rest over there.

I'm off to dinner.[/b][/quote]
non-issue putz, trying to make me look like scum if front of your peers.


double fuck you. you have no clue who I am. You can't think that I would let this go by from what you posted. you wanted blood and only got a needle prick. I'll find out the real reason you punched me in the back of the head and will deal with it as i seemed fit.



Last edited by masterp74 at Apr 12 2004, 08:51 PM

lololol... I'm not :)

It was/is/will be no problem. As a wise russian with a broom stick once sais "anyone who takes a board personal is an idiot" (or something to that effect).

We be cool MasterP, no prob.

I don't think KC is gonna lose sleep over it
;-))

c'mon, KC, tell us what you know about counters....or I will,
even though you are ducking the issue like a pro/expert
;-)))

non-issue putz, trying to make me look like scum if front of your peers.[/b][/quote]
Punch you in the back of the head? You're the one that started a whole new thread about it in front of my other peers (here at Oprano) after the issue had resolved on it's own in the j-b-m thread.

I have no interest in seeing you succeed or fail. I really wasn't trying to start shit with you.. Looking back at the original thread, I agree that I could have simply dropped you an email about it.

Honestly, I expected you to set the record straight about it with a simple post. My follow up post about your choice of names possibly infringing on that of the WTP was purely for your own benefit. I'm still convinced that the WPT will believe you're infringing and will probably eventually have something to say about it.

Like you said "It will pass"... So time will tell.



Last edited by KC at Apr 13 2004, 01:46 AM

yes, I almost sure of it too now. That's why I have plan b, c, d and e,


I'm thur with poker. like Vick said, I'm going to be a dealer in Vegas.



KC, don't be surprised if you don't get a christmas card from me, and don't panic if I never post about this issue again

yes, I almost sure of it too now. That's why I have plan b, c, d and e,


I'm thur with poker. like Vick said, I'm going to be a dealer in Vegas.



KC, don't be surprised if you don't get a christmas card from me, and don't panic if I never post about this issue again[/b][/quote]
Don't worry about me ratting you out. I'm not like that.

Good Luck with your projects, MasterP. This is my last post on the issue as well.