Hi,

Today we (CamContacts.net) have re-launched our Webmaster program….now held at www.CamSense.com. CamSense offers webmasters an ongoing commission of 10% of every $ a viewer spends on chatting with our girls….for life.

So if you stop referring, you keep earning, unlike our competitors who only pay a flat rate at the start.

Check the site and see what you think… www.camsense.com. Your feedback would be appreciated

Axe

Funny... Camz.com pays 25%... :okthumb:

checked out the site and cant find any details about that xxxphoto

i would be interested in checking this out.....

http://www.camz.com/makemoney.html

The live shows are run through PrivateCamz.com

Contact information for Robb and Dan is on following URL:
http://www.camz.com/rates/contact.html

Interclimax pays 25% for life and their members stay and spend alot more money! And I hear they have the best girls too... hehehe :)


Sabby:)

Sabby,

Do performers earn 50 to 75% of fees there like they do through
privatecamz.com?

Thanks.....

They may pay a higher % but i just registered as a member and they had no performers online. Thats not good for the viewers that are reffered.

Also, you have to buy chips in advance to see the video. With CamContacts we charge on a per minute basis which is more flexible for the viewers as well. We also have hundreds of girls online at any one time....

Check it out for yourself, they dont come close to us

:P

As a performer a higher % means nothing to me if I dont have as many clients or I if have to charge a lower price to stay competative. What matters to me is the amount of $$$ I made at the end of the night!


Sabby:)



Last edited by Sabby at Nov 6 2003, 05:11 AM

Its the same with amsterdamlivexxx, they only have a handful of girls online at any time and they use a dialer. another competitor who doesnt come close.

a real test of the size of the company is the amount of girls/boys online. check out CC and you will see the difference, i promise.......

beautiful girls as well

:)

Yes, you are right... Camz is nobody... Interclimax is nobody... Thank you
for showing me the error of my ways and telling me I should promote
your girls and boys rather than men and women...

I did check out your site, and was very impressed with your $3000 per
signup marketing ploy... are you that desperate for affiliates that you
have to lie to get them? Or are you trying to corner the market on
stupid webmasters? Perhaps on GFY you will find someone to believe
your marketing BS such as this classic...

*golf clap*

i wasnt saying that they are nothing but that they cannot compete in terms of quality of girls, number of girls and our technology...

it does make sense. if there are more girls, easier sign-up process, better technology etc...this only helps webmasters!!

My favourite quote is "what's nice is a matter of opinion, what work's is a matter of fact"

We have a saying too... Put up or shut up...

Your site claims $3000 per signup... I feel you might be fudging the truth
just a wee bit...

As for competion you are right; with all certainty I can assure you that
Camz and Interclimax aren't in same league as you... :awinky:

Fair do's.......

All i will say is that we have a lot of high spenders, so nothing's impossible.

Thanks for the comment xxxphoto, didnt mean to offend.... :D

MeatAxe,

I will agree with you on the high spenders... That is one thing that never
ceases to amaze me... However, you must agree that your claim in big
bold graphic is quite misleading yes?

Offense was taken at your comment about technology... Camz offers
two way audio/video and a surfer controlled sex toy 'dashboard' allowing
them to take cyber sex to a whole new user experience. This type of
innovation isn't just found on any old camsite... :awinky:

xxxphoto,

thats a fair comment...we are working on these technologies and i am getting in touch with hammer about these dildo's. they sound like a brilliant idea to encourage people to spend.....

In a word... Yup!

Hello Gavin! <kiss> XXXphoto give the guy a break! Damn man. I see you’re promoting your niche ezines and like anyone else you investigate and test the market.

I think their technology is good and their model thus far is successful (girls at home). It only makes sense they want to branch out into broader markets and programs. Give them time…. I bet these guys surprise the fuck out of all of you. For one they are steadily working on enhancing niche/fetish/bdsm and let’s face it, who is really doing this right? Owning fetish sites I’m excited about it. I’ve begged Claudia and VS- the like to please please focus more on providing fetish/niche cams. They recognize this demand and they aren’t afraid to take steps towards it. I know I’ll be watching this company carefully.

Dianna

Whoa - that was weird. If it wasn't for all of the blue on the screen, I'd have sworn I was watching the monthly cam network argument at AmateurMasters.

Technology is good, testing is good, etc, but what about putting a great big "$3,000 per signup" at the top of your site? LOL

Cams are big business.... there will be more networks popping up. I do not know much about any of them, from a surfers, performer, or webmaster angle. I should probably educate myself. I have a few girls in Florida I am going to be building sites for and they want to cam.

Mike it is and I do remember trying to talk you into building a studio last year.

I think that many studios were premature in their setup a year or two ago. I can understand someone’s reluctance in having to manage talent all the time. It is a pain but when you really start to break it down to the cost effectiveness of it all it makes perfect sense.

You have live content which is going to be the one thing that holds retention. Especially when you make it more personal for the subscribers. They get to know the girls and if the girl is trained and monitored properly she starts to create a fan club. That base makes everyone money. You also have them there and can produce more content to resell.

There are pro and con’s to home set-up and letting the girls just do their thing. Professional cam girls are just that, professional and work better alone at home. Still if you don’t train and hire monitors and trainers to help them you’re leaving them to their own devices. (slouching, bad angles, etc.) I still would always lean towards the studio setup for several reasons:

1) She has a schedule, it’s a job and no outside distractions (boyfriends watching TV in the next room, etc.) Her mind set is, “I’m at work and I work till…”
2) A few hours before or after her shift (and during live shows) you snap some video and stills. This is content to use, sell or promote.


I’m not sure if anyone has really looked at the numbers or realistic ways to do this but I promise you they will be forced to. Everyone is looking for ways to retain and what better way then live content that is interactive? I’m not so sure the PPV minute plan will be as successful once this happens because if a webmasters hires a crew of girls to provide content for his subscribers he’s going to pay a monthly subscription and come visit his favorite girl. You can still have some one on one or extra up sell perks but if you want him to bill month after month he needs to see a little action without trashing his Visa.

Mike your amateur sites would do very well with cams at home if you get one of your managers or train someone to work with the girls all the time. Develop bonus programs and perks that make them excited about doing it. You’ll make more money in the long run. If you’re spending more then 5K per month to a girl giving you content on contract then it’s worth setting her up with the right hardware and letting her & you earn more money.

Mike it is and I do remember trying to talk you into building a studio last year.

I think that many studios were premature in their setup a year or two ago. I can understand someone’s reluctance in having to manage talent all the time. It is a pain but when you really start to break it down to the cost effectiveness of it all it makes perfect sense.

You have live content which is going to be the one thing that holds retention. Especially when you make it more personal for the subscribers. They get to know the girls and if the girl is trained and monitored properly she starts to create a fan club. That base makes everyone money. You also have them there and can produce more content to resell.

There are pro and con’s to home set-up and letting the girls just do their thing. Professional cam girls are just that, professional and work better alone at home. Still if you don’t train and hire monitors and trainers to help them you’re leaving them to their own devices. (slouching, bad angles, etc.) I still would always lean towards the studio setup for several reasons:

1) She has a schedule, it’s a job and no outside distractions (boyfriends watching TV in the next room, etc.) Her mind set is, “I’m at work and I work till…”
2) A few hours before or after her shift (and during live shows) you snap some video and stills. This is content to use, sell or promote.


I’m not sure if anyone has really looked at the numbers or realistic ways to do this but I promise you they will be forced to. Everyone is looking for ways to retain and what better way then live content that is interactive? I’m not so sure the PPV minute plan will be as successful once this happens because if a webmasters hires a crew of girls to provide content for his subscribers he’s going to pay a monthly subscription and come visit his favorite girl. You can still have some one on one or extra up sell perks but if you want him to bill month after month he needs to see a little action without trashing his Visa.

Mike your amateur sites would do very well with cams at home if you get one of your managers or train someone to work with the girls all the time. Develop bonus programs and perks that make them excited about doing it. You’ll make more money in the long run. If you’re spending more then 5K per month to a girl giving you content on contract then it’s worth setting her up with the right hardware and letting her & you earn more money.[/b][/quote]
Holy shit...let me interject some business into the thread.
The dungeon/studio has been built. Let me introduce you to my partner Ms Whip and you can talk more offline.

Mike it is and I do remember trying to talk you into building a studio last year.

I think that many studios were premature in their setup a year or two ago. I can understand someone’s reluctance in having to manage talent all the time. It is a pain but when you really start to break it down to the cost effectiveness of it all it makes perfect sense.

You have live content which is going to be the one thing that holds retention. Especially when you make it more personal for the subscribers. They get to know the girls and if the girl is trained and monitored properly she starts to create a fan club. That base makes everyone money. You also have them there and can produce more content to resell.

There are pro and con’s to home set-up and letting the girls just do their thing. Professional cam girls are just that, professional and work better alone at home. Still if you don’t train and hire monitors and trainers to help them you’re leaving them to their own devices. (slouching, bad angles, etc.) I still would always lean towards the studio setup for several reasons:

1) She has a schedule, it’s a job and no outside distractions (boyfriends watching TV in the next room, etc.) Her mind set is, “I’m at work and I work till…”
2) A few hours before or after her shift (and during live shows) you snap some video and stills. This is content to use, sell or promote.


I’m not sure if anyone has really looked at the numbers or realistic ways to do this but I promise you they will be forced to. Everyone is looking for ways to retain and what better way then live content that is interactive? I’m not so sure the PPV minute plan will be as successful once this happens because if a webmasters hires a crew of girls to provide content for his subscribers he’s going to pay a monthly subscription and come visit his favorite girl. You can still have some one on one or extra up sell perks but if you want him to bill month after month he needs to see a little action without trashing his Visa.

Mike your amateur sites would do very well with cams at home if you get one of your managers or train someone to work with the girls all the time. Develop bonus programs and perks that make them excited about doing it. You’ll make more money in the long run. If you’re spending more then 5K per month to a girl giving you content on contract then it’s worth setting her up with the right hardware and letting her & you earn more money.[/b][/quote]


Diana, I am not going to invest the money to get into the Cam business. I might set up a girl or 2 in someone else program, but I do not think it would be a wise investment for me. Can other people make money with it? I have no doubt about it. It is something I am NOT interested in starting, owning or managing.

I will leave that segment of the industry for other people to exploit!

:D

Diana, I am not going to invest the money to get into the Cam business. I might set up a girl or 2 in someone else program, but I do not think it would be a wise investment for me. Can other people make money with it? I have no doubt about it. It is something I am NOT interested in starting, owning or managing.

I will leave that segment of the industry for other people to exploit!

:D[/b][/quote]
I know I know lol- I don't give up easily.

Do very simple just use Gavins simple interface to set the girls up at home, if they want, let them make the money but insert the code into the members area to keep them coming back. Price it right and you both make money. simple. camscontact.com has a very simple interface and let's the girls choose their own pricing.

I know I know lol- I don't give up easily.

Do very simple just use Gavins simple interface to set the girls up at home, if they want, let them make the money but insert the code into the members area to keep them coming back. Price it right and you both make money. simple. camscontact.com has a very simple interface and let's the girls choose their own pricing.[/b][/quote]

Diana, when I get to the point of getting the girls ready to go on cam, I will talk to you in depth on best way to set things up. Which networks, etc....

It will still be a little while...

10%?

oh wow....

:agrin:

You have a studio, you want your girls online? We do that.
You have traffic and want you own live cam site? We do that.
You have webmaster, traffic and girls and want to join the fun and start your own affiliate cam girls program? We do that.

Want someone who is trusted in this business and has been around for a long time, That's us.



p.s.: You want to earn up to 40% on traffic you send? We do that ;)



Last edited by DrGuile at Nov 6 2003, 11:47 AM

DrGuile we sell your program or did have more links up. I need to check the stats closer but I'm not sure we were making any money.

No doubt your interface is really cool. I like the way you have it set up. Can you break it down for us how you can pay girls, hosting, etc. etc. and still make 45% profitable? Serious, I'm really curious about this.

DV

its 40%, not 45%, and its only for our very best resellers. Profit margin is very slim when we get to that point.

But we like volume, like you pointed out earlier, its good to keep the girls busy.

Btw, if you havent been in our stats section in a while, check it out, it is MUCH improved.

We have clicks, referals, etc, now.



Last edited by DrGuile at Nov 6 2003, 02:47 PM

[/b][/quote]
and please post your bank statements and tax returns.
thanks in advance!

:)

and please post your bank statements and tax returns.
thanks in advance!

:)[/b][/quote]
I was just going to put my SSN and a scan of my passport... but eh, what the heck!

:agrin:

:rolleyes:

Can you send me copies as well, little hard up after a heavy weekend

:)